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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:25 am

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In post 1412, Cephrir wrote:I will be around today if yall decide to flashwagin

I liked bb at the start but yeah I do think a little fire that fades out quickly has a good chance of being scum
In post 1415, Cephrir wrote:fine

VOTE: bb
In post 1419, Cephrir wrote:I still think nsg is the best lynch but it's fine I guess
In post 1452, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1445, Dannflor wrote:
northsidegal - 5
(Kittymo, Dunnstral, gobbledygook, BBMolla, Dannflor)
BBmolla - 4
(CheekyTeeky, Cephrir, Formerfish, Dongempire)
Formerfish - 2
(northsidegal, Espeonage)
gobbledygook - 1
(Hopkirk)

Not Voting - 1
(Auro)

I think that's accurate.

We have ~8 hours left.
VOTE: nsg
These tell a pretty clear story

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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:28 am

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I think people pushing Dunn is towny but I'm not ready to look into that slot yet. Today is a public holiday for me so I'll be V/LAish for about 12 hours. I'll still post when I can.

Cephrir I think you're town. I'll do a more in-depth post soon. I think I was at Hopkirk/Dong with a side serving of Dunn.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:32 am

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Dunn only makes sense if FF is also scum tbh. But that's my most tinfoil read, I'd go with the other scumspects today.
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:33 am

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Y'ello.

I stand by my logic for not voting NSG. I think it was still sound in the grand scheme of things. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and it is easy to look back and go Espe defended NSG the hardest, must be scum.

I present an interesting observation. Dann agreed with most of what I was saying in the latter half of Day 1, and now is spearheading my wagon for reasons previously he agreed with, or at least saw the logic in. That smells really bad from my PoV. I think Ceph is on the right track here. Unfortunately, this means that the FF/Dunn team I was dreaming of isn't likely to be a thing. Not impossible, but also unlikely.

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The 180 read based on a flip when I approached the competing wagons from a purely information and logic standpoint feels telling to me.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:33 am

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In post 1602, CheekyTeeky wrote:Dunn only makes sense if FF is also scum tbh. But that's my most tinfoil read, I'd go with the other scumspects today.
That was my tinfoil hat theory lol.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:37 am

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VOTE: Hopkirk
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:38 am

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Espeon I think Dann should be lower in the scumpile based on nsg interactions for now.

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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:48 am

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I can kinda dig that actually.

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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:25 pm

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In post 1578, Donempire wrote:
In post 1572, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1565, Donempire wrote:
In post 1560, Cephrir wrote:To expand slightly

Because we already discussed scum turbobus strats for white flag in this game I really dont think scum would look to turbobus in this game, at least until maybe late game when theres only 2 of them
1 scum wins the game
What? It literally doesn't
VOTE: Cephrir

You either didnt read your role pm or you're scum. This is such a stupid post to make
Just saw this :lol: :lol: :lol:
This can't be legit? Mind boggling town slip if it is one.
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:26 pm

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Nah no way that's a legit thought process dong has.
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:27 pm

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In post 1580, Dunnstral wrote:You guys both think that mafia lose when there is 1 left, you're just saying it in different ways
Ooooh. :lol:
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 1603, Espeonage wrote:I stand by my logic for not voting NSG. I think it was still sound in the grand scheme of things. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and it is easy to look back and go Espe defended NSG the hardest, must be scum.

I present an interesting observation. Dann agreed with most of what I was saying in the latter half of Day 1, and now is spearheading my wagon for reasons previously he agreed with, or at least saw the logic in. That smells really bad from my PoV. I think Ceph is on the right track here. Unfortunately, this means that the FF/Dunn team I was dreaming of isn't likely to be a thing. Not impossible, but also unlikely.

Vote: Dann

The 180 read based on a flip when I approached the competing wagons from a purely information and logic standpoint feels telling to me.
I uh, never 180'd my read on you. I started feeling a little better about you when I was most sure that FF was scum, but I've been scum reading you since D1 and that hasn't changed.

I didn't agree with your reasons for not killing NSG. I think your reasons and the way you presented them were scummy, LAMIST, and not something I agreed with. I also made this clear D1. My reasons for initially not wanting NSG dead did not have to do with the fact that she was a lurker but the possibility she was town and what she could possible provide D2.

I feel like I made this distinction very clear in #958 and you're trying to paint this as if I did a 180 in places I did not. Did I 180 wanting to kill NSG over FF? Yes, several times. Never did I change my mind on scum reading you and never did I agree with your reasoning on NSG.
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:06 pm

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I didn't read up. I can't now either and no idea when I'll be able to next week due to work.

I've seen the lynch. I've lost all respect for NSG as a player. I've lost the respect that I had for RC as a player. I've discussed it with the team- people who've discussed irl how they like RC - and everyone seems to share this view.

I'm especially irritated as this clearly was only allowed due to reputation. A new player in that slot with an 7 day period without content would have been subbed out. When it's clearly strategic since she was playing elsewhere in TM I'm pissed that it was actually allowed and would have been disgusted if she was pulling that as my teammate.

Quoting my post end gimmick because fuck this game.
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:07 pm

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it's okay hopkirk we'll lynch you and you'll be free
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:07 pm

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I can't even understand why you're mad unless you're scum, I feel great about how we punished NSG's shitty play
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:09 pm

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I can see people are voting me. no idea why don't care. If it's some shit like 'didn't vote his partner at the end despite us hammering with a day left when he said 3 days beforehand he'd be catching up then and had been voting her for several days/clearly supported the again over any of the actual counrwagons and my only other votes were on people who were townread enough not to get lynched and hence clearly pointless as counterwagins' then honestly actually scumunting later isn't going to be worth the very limited time I actually have at this point and you can tell me now that nobody knows what they're doing so I can do other stuff instead.
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:10 pm

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I'm mostly disgusted with RC/North and irritated with the mod for enabling it despite prod rules. The lynch I absolutely agreed with as I fairly clearly said. I don't remember if I used the words I want to policy lynch this.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:11 pm

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We hammered like 40 minutes before deadline Hopkirk.

Can you please explain why you voted Dunn and then Gobble instead of staying on the NSG wagon that you claimed to have agreed with?
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:11 pm

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jesus christ I had to read your last sentence four times to understand what the hell you were saying lmfao
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:12 pm

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I understand you hadn't caught up, but I don't understand what motivated the change in votes if you hadn't.
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:13 pm

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So did nobody correct my assumption we'd have a day before deadline when I was laying out when I could catch up?
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:14 pm

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Obviously that changes things yeah, but it sounds like you're just calling scum me stupid there if there was a valid counterwagob and I had no reason to push north beforehand then jump off and impocatr myself.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:15 pm

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I thought we had 1-2 days left as my skimming saw someone say there was over a day left and I assumed I could move around skittle first.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:16 pm

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In post 1157, Hopkirk wrote:I haven't even remotely caught up and won't until tomorrow evening at the earliest.

VOTE: Dunn
In post 1164, Hopkirk wrote:Imagine if it's just Dunn/Gobble/Fish.

(Currently at work and bathroom posting as i realized the submit button only disappears if I quote stuff or add formatting).

Hop 'hopping' Hops
In post 1178, Hopkirk wrote:VOTE: gobble

Hop 'hophop' hop
What sparked this progression Hopkirk?

Why did you vote Dunn and Gobble when you did without catching up?
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:16 pm

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I'm not calling you scum necessarily

just help me understand the why
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