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Post Post #4600 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:15 pm

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just present your take please.
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Post Post #4601 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:15 pm

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Question was for skit. I’ll defer to her.
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Post Post #4602 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:18 pm

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Post Post #4603 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:18 pm

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In post 4593, teacher wrote:@RCE by the way, thanks for calling out your answer to the test question. Two follow ups:

1. What is your read on me without testing?
2. Did you pick up on the crumb I called out to you earlier (mid day 1 ish, can find tomorrow if needed), and do you agree if you did?
Town in a vacuum. Even when I find myself disagreeing with your views it's not because they're unreasonable at all. Like I can follow your thought processes and understand how you're reaching your conclusions.

If you mean the shadowing thing. I saw it, I don't really know what you were getting at and still don't. Is Xtoxm picking up on it significant at all?
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Post Post #4604 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 4599, teacher wrote:I started to type out my take on the past day or so but realized you might not want me to pollute the waters. You want me to provide my take on it or you want to let it wait for him?
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Post Post #4605 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:22 pm

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Skitter can I get a full readslist from you
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Post Post #4606 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:26 pm

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No, picking up on it was kinda irrel. It was about volxens role there and the possibility it’s in here. But I finally researched the normal rules and it’s not allowed. So my b.

That kinda makes me a lot more interested in xtomx than I have been recently.
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Post Post #4607 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:28 pm

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Town: rce, ari
Not town: shos, probably saudade, possibly math

Somewhere in between like they need more content for me to actually be able to read them: flopz, xtoxm, bella

Townbinning for today : rc

I need to reavaluate teacher because i think the model i have in my head of him is wrong

Gun to head i guess town!ico , i think he probably isnt scum with math

As i write this out i realize i have fewer strong trs than i would like
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Post Post #4608 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:29 pm

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In post 2520, Plum wrote:
In post 2516, Xtoxm wrote:Let's see how this issue resolves before rushing anything
You WHAT mate

I don't think so buddy-boy
In post 2525, Plum wrote:
In post 2520, Plum wrote:
In post 2516, Xtoxm wrote:Let's see how this issue resolves before rushing anything
You WHAT mate

I don't think so buddy-boy
see how what resolves

you haven't said anything about Ari

why are you so keen to see the RC situation resolve nice and calmly first
this, uh, could have been SvS. idk like maybe one of my townreads is wrong but i really think that we're self destructing searching for deepwolves and going against each other.
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Post Post #4609 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:30 pm

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I think it makes sense from Maths point of view.

I think the push on you was semi-serious, but also to break the rut that the day had turned in by injecting a new push and seeing what happened. What happened , again fhpov, is a hard chainsaw from RC. So it went from a “New/different” push to a serious push.

Like RC started the day kinda pushing you (this is what led ofrhz to want his lynch, saying he was getting rid of players known to be good in the late game). Then, when math makes the same push, RC turns the thread into fun times again.

Like, at a surface level, you-RC-ari makes some sense given how the days have played out, and would account for town being lost despite there being a hard “towncore”. I do think his actions are a legit solve attempt, just not right because I don’t think the two of you would ever be so clear.
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Post Post #4610 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:34 pm

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In post 4607, skitter30 wrote:I need to reavaluate teacher because i think the model i have in my head of him is wrong
FWIW, im not sure I k ow your model, but the player I identify most with is also RCE, as he said in early game, to the extent that helps refine it.
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Post Post #4611 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:35 pm

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I think you're spending too much time thinking about what my scum plan could hypothetically be instead of thinking about what I'm actually doing and how it corresponds.
I don't think that if you actually get into the nuts and bolts that it makes sense for my D1 gameplan to have been -kill strong townies-
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Post Post #4612 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:36 pm

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Like you can always try to match what I'm doing to some sort of hypothetical scum plan but you also have to consider whether I could be doing it as town.
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Post Post #4613 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:38 pm

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RC, I’m not now, nor have I ever been pushing you, despite my team, so maybe just accept when I relay their comments that I’m relaying their comments and not as a reflection of what I’m doing?
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Post Post #4614 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:41 pm

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I didn't say it was, but I still feel obligated to give a counterargument because that's the way that I am.
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Post Post #4615 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:41 pm

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Can we talk about xtomx? I’d been giving it a bit of a break since I thought it crumbed a pr (mirror), even if it was not playing that or how I would play it. Now that I know mirrors aren’t in normals, I find it weird that a slot with that little content hasn’t gotten more attention.
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Post Post #4616 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:43 pm

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I think Plum interacted with him in ways that might spew him scum if she is also scum which shouldn't surprise me.

Man I think it's really possible that if math is town then every active slot is town.
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Post Post #4617 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:45 pm

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And I would count Bellaphant in that list.
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Post Post #4618 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:47 pm

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But like less so yeah.

I think we need to just start killing scummy slots.
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Post Post #4619 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:48 pm

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Something something lynching wolfy slots instead of lynching villagery people for *spicy* reasons, which I think virtually all of today's wagons besides Plum have been.
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Post Post #4620 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:49 pm

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In post 1326, Xtoxm wrote:What really scares people is not the artificial intelligence in the computer, but the natural intelligence they see in the mirror.
In post 1328, teacher wrote:remember shadowing a while back? I just thought of that for some reason.
I was in a game with RCE where he was a town shadow voter and volxen was a mirror. I was comfortable enough with RCE town and wanted to call this crumb out. But it can’t be a crumb (at least not for a mirror) since those aren’t allowed in normals. (Providing context fwiw)
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Post Post #4621 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:08 pm

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I really just think that every time I get dragged back into thinking there's a deepwolf it's wrong. {Shos Saudade Xtoxm Flopz} should really end the game. If it doesn't I sincerely doubt it's not at least 2.
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Post Post #4622 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:13 pm

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In post 1464, the worst wrote:if he flips town just systematically assassinate his master perfect unstoppable POE of null lurkslots and as he's saying now I'm sure that'll go fine
like i'm town. all the slots besides Mathblade (and there's some ? there) that aren't null lurkslots read town to me. Maybe we should just do this. :?
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Post Post #4623 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:14 pm

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The problem with that is that if it doesn’t end the game, the game is lost, ya?
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Post Post #4624 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:17 pm

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Math RCE Ico
Skit RC
Bella
Ari
Xtom shos saudade flopz

The thing is I’m pretty convinced there’s scum on the top two lines. Note to self - reread the flopz and ari day one wagon pages.
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