Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

Well we had ~3 hours of this not being a toxic mess. Was good while it lasted.

[Iconeum]

When/if I flip town, lynch Mathblade then the lurker pile that I listed.

If you actually flip town, I will consider revisiting my Math read

everyone should read this because it's important

[RadiantCowbells]

Shade? I'm pointing out that everyone's been assuming you were a protective with an inno on Mathblade when that's not true and it was the main reason to townread both of you.

[Xtoxm]

Your treatment of Math on these last pages is disgusting. A player that has you blacklisted got forced into the game with you. Stop and think about that for a moment. You recieved so many blacklists that the system failed. You are a gigantic asshole.

[RadiantCowbells]

Assuming you're both town, why would scum have any incentive to post when they can just count on Math making another absurd push on town that makes it impossible to lynch Shos.
Like he's outed wolf. He hasn't done anything. Plum was outed at EoD yesterday. And we still can't wagon them because Math is doing his best to throw the game off a cliff.

~Why~ would scum have literally even the slightest impulse to actually post during this day phase

Your treatment of Math on these last pages is disgusting. A player that has you blacklisted got forced into the game with you. Stop and think about that for a moment. You recieved so many blacklists that the system failed. You are a gigantic asshole.

I don't think that it's a terrible thing to do to be open about the fact that a player is not a good player.
I have said nothing negative about Math as a human being. I have said that he is a shitty mafia player. He is a shitty mafia player. I won't apologize for pointing it out when it's relevant.

[RadiantCowbells]

A player that has you blacklisted got forced into the game with you.

The issue with this reasoning is that the system is flawed and there is literally only 2 games that any player can be placed in and that creates minimal wiggle room.
I know for basically 100% sure that one game has 0 people who blacklisted me and I'm ~80% sure that another does as well.

But sure, I'm a terrible person etc but that doesn't change the fact that Math's reads are bad.

[Iconeum]

Assuming you're both town, why would scum have any incentive to post when they can just count on Math making another absurd push on town that makes it impossible to lynch Shos

Literally the ONLY player this game that's succesfully lynched a town is YOU

[RadiantCowbells]

And, uh, I have had Mathblade blacklisted since 2016. Mathblade knows this. Mathblade still follows me into games on secret alts. I am holding no punches.
I have gone out of my way to be nice to Skitter30.

Literally the ONLY player this game that's succesfully lynched a town is YOU

Sample size: 1.

[Iconeum]

Shade? I'm pointing out that everyone's been assuming you were a protective with an inno on Mathblade when that's not true and it was the main reason to townread both of you.

sure i'm a protective

better tell your team to come kill me

[RadiantCowbells]

And Math has only not successfully lynched town because I've gone out of my way to prevent him from lynching Town.

[Iconeum]

I don't think that it's a terrible thing to do to be open about the fact that a player is not a good player.I have said nothing negative about Math as a human being. I have said that he is a shitty mafia player. He is a shitty mafia player. I won't apologize for pointing it out when it's relevant.

[Iconeum]

And Math has only not successfully lynched town because I've gone out of my way to prevent him from lynching Town.

Preventing him from lynching town while you lynched town

gottit

[RadiantCowbells]

Yes, that is in fact what happened. There were two wagons on town.

[Iconeum]

And, uh, I have had Mathblade blacklisted since 2016. Mathblade knows this. Mathblade still follows me into games on secret alts. I am holding no punches.
I have gone out of my way to be nice to Skitter30.

Literally the ONLY player this game that's succesfully lynched a town is YOU

Sample size: 1.

Sample size from Math: 0.

[RadiantCowbells]

Past performance in mafia is a fairly reliable indicator of future performance in broad terms.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like Mathblade has actually done some awful shit to me that you're not aware of so I would advise you hold your tongue and not act like he's the victim.

[Iconeum]

Like Mathblade has actually done some awful shit to me that you're not aware of so I would advise you hold your tongue and not act like he's the victim.

This isn't about any potential feud between you 2. I couldn't care less about that. I'm trying to win this game.

You are objectively scum and i'm very sorry I didn't step in harder to defend TW when I had the chance.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok then make it about me being scum.

[Iconeum]

Math has also done nothing to provoke you this game, it's quite the opposite.

Your intentional attempts at triggering him these past few pages should be below you as a player.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm sorry, but they're not. Not when it's Mathblade.

[Iconeum]

It's quite telling that instead of trying to defend yourself you chose to attack Math on a personal level.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think there's something seriously wrong with your assertion that me saying that Mathblade is a bad mafia player is a personal attack.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also like, I'm not trying to trigger him. I don't care about Mathblade. This isn't about Mathblade. This is about the game.
This is about the fact that it's, like, essentially impossible to win a game with Mathblade without either policy lynching them or quarantining them and ignoring their reads.
And I'm not saying this to be mean. It's an objective fact. I can provide evidence of this fact and already have when prompted.

I've had no desire to make things personal because I'm minimally invested in this game. I don't like the fact that I feel like the most +wincon thing I can do is make sure everyone understand how important it is to ignore Mathblade and that's why I'd rather simply not be in a game with them. But I am, and it is the most +wincon thing I can do.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like that may sound like something someone says to be an asshole but I have very little malice in saying it outside of it being something town _needs_ to know.

[Iconeum]

Do you think TW is a capable player, good enough to lead town to a win?