Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[implosion]

Spoiler: iliad murmuring within

Vote Count 2.7

shos

(3): skitter30, RadiantCowbells, Aristophanes

RadiantCowbells

(3): RCEnigma, Iconeum, MathBlade

Aristophanes

(2): Flopz, teacher

skitter30

(1): Xtoxm

Not voting (3): shos, Bellaphant, Saudade

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to end the day.
Deadline is set to 4 PM PST on January 31st, in (expired on 2020-01-31 20:00:00).

[Iconeum]

Why Flopz is scum:

786 is his big opening post, where he clearly has reads and calls some scumreads, including Ari 'BIG scumread'.
In 796 he responds to the heat that 786 caused. 'It wasn't an attempt at scumhunting'. 'just showing i was alive and playing'.
That's not a townie mindset, and it's him literally trying to crawl under from a bad post. It's downplaying what he wrote. Clearly more occupied with how the game perceives him then actually solving at this point.

1170 is full of AtE, and unwarranted. He made scummy posts, he took heat for it, but the 'game is treating him unfairly'. During his entire ISO he can't stop ranting about terrible gamestate and such, but never bothers to actually do anything about it. Looks like he wants to draw attention to toxicity (real or not), instead of his actual reads.

1188 blatant misrep

1272 you just need to read and see the fencesitting yourself. Maths and RCE in this post especially ucky.
In one of his next posts he says he's extremely low experienced, which fuels my thought that this big post of his was coached.

3434 'The lack of NK was quite a shock to me and I'm not really sure how to feel about that'. How does this come from town? The entire post feels fabricated.

3439 more fake feelings. ' I did agree that Duck was scum which was why I was very surprised when he turned out to be not scum.' It's such a generic statement I'm having trouble believing it's real.

3441 lacks a thoughts process wrt to RC. Interesting tho.

3446 more of the same. That's just not how town thinks.

3448 he pretty much says he thinks Ari made the gamestate terrible. Ehhhh.


IF THIS FLIPS SCUM, ARI AND RC ARE TOWN DESPITE ANYTHING I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SAID PREVIOUSLY

[RadiantCowbells]

Skitter is a good voice of reason and losing her would hurt us Townies imo.

Smh casing Flopz without including this

[Iconeum]

throw it on the pile

[RadiantCowbells]

Btw like I can individually towncase every player outside of my lynchpool and scumcase all of the ones inside besides Xtoxm if that would make my reads more palatable.

[Iconeum]

I think flopz is actually a good lynch tho.

If RC is town, he should have little problem lynching there bc it's in his pool. This further sorts both Ari and RC.
If flopz flips town, we don't lose a whole lot (sorry flopz, but ur not really contributing a whole lot at this point).

Wagoning flopz will force players to take a stance on a slot that hasn't been talked about a whole lot.

And my gut tells me RC is actually town fml, despite brainz going 'no Ico! Lynch RC!'

[Iconeum]

VOTE: flopz

[Iconeum]

Don't know how to put this, but like, this might be the wagon that brings town back together?

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I'm not averse to it

But I'm also not going to unvote someone that I'm on with Skitter for it. If you get Skitter you get me as well.

[skitter30]

Can we just wagon shos already ???
I've been trying for like five irl days but we keep getting distracted with all of this bickering and i'm baffled that i keep pushing it and literally nobody townreads him but that i cant get this above like three votes

Like my wagon happened easier than this one ....

Also i no longer tr math but i want to push somewhelse else rn that isnt me/math/rc/ari because how else are we going to make the quiet people do things, as i've also been saying for like 5 irl days

@math @ ico
Can you two articulare why you either :
A) townread shos
B) dont want to wagon him

Because as far as i'm aware you've done neither but keep sidestepping this wagon each time i've tried to revive it

[teacher]

Honestly the RC wagon on this page, before Ico swung away again, was going to get my vote for finally having my hardest town reads working together (also in part for the hopes of a less spammed tomorrow.). But I’m fine with shos or flopz, and will contribute to either.

[Iconeum]

Can we just wagon shos already ???
I've been trying for like five irl days but we keep getting distracted with all of this bickering and i'm baffled that i keep pushing it and literally nobody townreads him but that i cant get this above like three votes

Like my wagon happened easier than this one ....

Also i no longer tr math but i want to push somewhelse else rn that isnt me/math/rc/ari because how else are we going to make the quiet people do things, as i've also been saying for like 5 irl days

@math @ ico
Can you two articulare why you either :
A) townread shos
B) dont want to wagon him

Because as far as i'm aware you've done neither but keep sidestepping this wagon each time i've tried to revive it

i've literally not seen (much?) AI stuff from either plum nor shos

so really really null on the slot

I'll help you push it tho

VOTE: shos

[teacher]

VOTE: shos

That’s L-2

[Saudade]

you're going for quite the easy targets, we will lose because you lack cojones

[Saudade]

VOTE: RC

[Saudade]

Lynch the player implying we should player mafia roulette and just lynch all the afk/lurker/reppedinouts slots

[Saudade]

I wish my lovely duck was here to shield me from this fat cow

[MathBlade]

Can we just wagon shos already ???
I've been trying for like five irl days but we keep getting distracted with all of this bickering and i'm baffled that i keep pushing it and literally nobody townreads him but that i cant get this above like three votes

Like my wagon happened easier than this one ....

Also i no longer tr math but i want to push somewhelse else rn that isnt me/math/rc/ari because how else are we going to make the quiet people do things, as i've also been saying for like 5 irl days

@math @ ico
Can you two articulare why you either :
A) townread shos
B) dont want to wagon him

Because as far as i'm aware you've done neither but keep sidestepping this wagon each time i've tried to revive it

Pretty sure I’ve been on record several times why I don’t want to wagon Shos.

Wagoning an inactive player doesn’t teach us anything.
Very rarely does it actually get the person to show up sooner than they could if not wagoned.
It’s literally unreadable garbage.

Anyone on this wagon their vote I can write a case for being town or scum regardless of what shos flips.

Eg Shos scum >> Skitter is town because their first on the wagon and post X is good
Shos scum >> Skitter is scum and planned to sluff off dead weight and coast

Shos town >> Skitter is town for wanting to move the game forward and starting this wagon. Scum are likely in the late joiners.
Shos town >> Skitter is scum because she vote parked.

Pretty much we learn nil from this wagon and they are a null read because that’s the fucking definition. If you haven’t posted you’re null.

[Saudade]

Shos wagon is a scum motivated wagon

[RadiantCowbells]

Saudade before Shos was at L-2 while there existed counterwagons that weren't me and after Skitter became clearly unobtainable: let's not lynch in RC/Ari/Math

Saudade, the slot me and Skitter have hypothesized as SvS with Plum since early D1, now that it's them or me: you all don't have cojones lynch RC scum motivated wagon.

[Saudade]

I've changed my mind

[skitter30]

Wagoning an inactive player doesn’t teach us anything.
Very rarely does it actually get the person to show up sooner than they could if not wagoned.
It’s literally unreadable garbage.

So how do u want to sort them exactly ...

Also iirc werent you advocating for pushing ari durinf that week when he said he would be gone until sunday ???

[skitter30]

Shos wagon is a scum motivated wagon

How exactly are u reading me saudade

[RCEnigma]

There was just a wagon on Skitter with the purpose to sort her or whatever it was.

VOTE: Shos L-1

For jingle.

[Saudade]

Shos wagon is a scum motivated wagon

How exactly are u reading me saudade

You're playing your usual analysis game