White Flag - TM2020

[Espeonage]

515 was the big one ya.

[Espeonage]

Like if I was on a team that was serious about winning and I wanted to manipulate specific playlists then yeah I totally would. I can explain my reasoning on this post game bc I'm not sure if going head first in to it would break team mafia rules.

[Espeonage]

Like I 'may' be both right AND wrong at the same time. Like I was wrong on NSG but my logic may well prove true as well.

[Espeonage]

Who was vote 6 on the NSG wagon?

[Espeonage]

Vote Count

northsidegal - 5

(Kittymo, Cephrir, Dunnstral, Formerfish, gobbledygook)

Formerfish - 4

(BBMolla, northsidegal, Dannflor, Espeonage)

gobbledygook - 1

(Hopkirk)

Not Voting - 3

(Auro, CheekyTeeky, Dongempire)

Activity Check - All Good!

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

Vote Count

northsidegal - 7

(Kittymo, Dunnstral, gobbledygook, BBMolla, Dannflor, Cephrir, Dongempire)

Formerfish - 2

( northsidegal, Espeonage)

BBMolla - 2

(CheekyTeeky, Formerfish)

gobbledygook - 1

(Hopkirk)

Not Voting - 1

(Auro)

Activity Check - Lynch at #1460

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

Anyone got on hand what happened in voting between these two VCs?

[Dannflor]

I said wow the NSG wagon looks a lot better optically

then you chewed me out for having no commitment

then I decided to commit to FF

then people got cold feet on FF

I joined a flash wagon on BBmolla

BBmolla's reaction was townish and it didn't feel like a good compromise

so I said fuck it let's kill NSG in post #1436

and that led to #1523

That's why there's half a wagon on FF and BBmolla still in that last vote count

[Dannflor]

but like

why don't you just read the EoD

it has a LOT of information I think

[Espeonage]

I probably will. I am just interested in seeing the actions. Like talking about doing something near end day is all well and good, but it's the action that matters in a time like that.

Let me ask you, how many scum do you think bussed NSG in the last 2 irl days of the day?

[Dannflor]

I probably will. I am just interested in seeing the actions. Like talking about doing something near end day is all well and good, but it's the action that matters in a time like that.

Okay, but why are you asking me—your top scum read—what happened instead of reading/cataloging those actions for yourself?

Let me ask you, how many scum do you think bussed NSG in the last 2 irl days of the day?

Is this supposed to help solve me? The game?

Again, this seems like something where you can go back on your own and form your own opinion. I myself have made my reads very clear.

I'm not trying to be deliberately obtuse here but it looks like you're throwing out lazy questions that look like busy work instead of actually going back and doing the analysis you keep promising.

That said I am also wresting with, if scum is leading the town at the moment which is 'feels' like, then the narrative of yesterday likely would have been different. I'm gonna try and wrap my head around that conundrum and come back with some theories because all the momentum stuff points to scum in the mid charisma tier if that makes sense.

Like this is interesting, I want to know more about what your "mid charisma tier" looks like and who you think would be scum within it. How does the narrative of yesterday look different if scum is leading town?

But you're throwing vague stuff like this out there and asking me questions that look surface-level-solvey instead of just... doing it. I think the fact that you're asking me these questions instead of just reading those 7 pages speaks volumes about your alignment.

Right now, the only reads its clear you have are Cheeky and Dong as town and me as scum. What are the rest of them? If you're somehow town trying to see if it's possible that I'm town, then this is a really weak way to go about that.

[Espeonage]

Well really I want people to do my busywork bc I am work and play when I am bored. I barely open my computer at home.

Also quick fire; Asked you bc you were around. It's designed to help give me direction today bc I am feeling Conf bias-y and want to start afresh. Partly bc my scum reads are universally town read and partly bc my town reads are universally scum lent. So this is my starting again day 2 bc NSG has given us little bc she was super bussable and kitty kill was next to zero info as well. Like the only kills that would make sense in my head would have been kitty and maybe Ceph. I don't think anyone else would have been close.

Now mid charisma tier would be people who aren't leading but also aren't lurking. They maybe have the ear of a player or two. Less of a reflection on people as a whole, more about how people are this game. Like I would put Ceph, Dong, Myself, Cheeky, Kitty, Dunn here.

[CheekyTeeky]

This seems like a long segways just to call Dunn scum

[Espeonage]

I more want to see if I am missing something on you and dong, or if I have something on Dunn, or if Ceph is flying under the radar. Or if it is all nothing. idk.

[CheekyTeeky]

Well you're missing that I'm actually top tier charisma. Can you talk a little more about your Dong read and how Ceph is managing to fly under everyone's radars?

[CheekyTeeky]

If I'm honest about Ceph I got scumread him in my game entrance but that changed to a TR based on his conviction and lack of sepf-awareness. The only thing I haven't liked about him today was his Kitty-mo NK talk. But otherwise, he had the opportunity to hammer FF so I'd have a hard time trying to peg that slot as scum unless you could explain why he was willing to lynch BB and NSG but not FF.

[gobbledygook]

I feel like how Dunn played D1 and that he was a major component of the NSG wagon makes him town. Espeonage, once you’ve read end of day, I would like to hear more about what you think of Dunn

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok, so this has a shorter night than i expected. I will be here tonight.

Is it tonight yet?

[CheekyTeeky]

Eddie Pops is wondering why you want her take when you think she's garbo.

[Dannflor]

uhhhh

we're both puzzled by that and eddie doesn't think he ever said pops was garbo

[Dannflor]

I'd also personally appreciate Pops' thoughts on this game as well if she has any

[Espeonage]

Hot take unrelated to anything I've talked about bc I just was thinking in the toilet. An FF flip would help a lot rn.

[Dannflor]

I'm very interested in his catch up at the very least

[CheekyTeeky]

She's reading up. Snap and crackle standing by.

[Formerfish]

Sorry guys, I know I said tonight but I was expecting my ex to pick up our daughter and she didn't. I just got done with dinner and a bath and it's time to put her to bed. I'm more than likely falling asleep with her cause I've been up since 5am. I don't have anything to do until 330 tomorrow so I'll catch up after I drop her off at school.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok so far Pops hasn't read all the game but she has a spicy scum read on Cephrir and she berated me for being a dick to/scumspecting Dunnstral.
She used a lot of words to reason the Cephrir scumread that looked very convincing to me.
It's not anything tasty yet but that's the direction she's going with for now until she's fully caught up.

[Cephrir]

Zzz.