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[Almost50]

I've got a good theory. Why volpe was nightkilled is to set up this situation of today which naturally lends into a 1v1. Maybe in that scenario FB and me are town and we're getting into a deadly 1v1 that fucks town up again. The reason this is done is to not only get rid of a commuter hood which can be problematic to deal with for scums but also make sure our last standing ability cannot be used properly as we would die instantly upon getting it. That's one of my theories.

And how would they have known it's a day ability (as you have been hinting today) if both you and FB are Town????

[chennisden]

That applies both ways

And this is why we do NOT lynch in nom/FB today, Einstein! There are other fish in the sea, but you're acting like an eyeless shrimp.

What a potentially great way to let scum go to endgame, einstein

[chennisden]

Does anyone know why Chennisden could not be targeted either night?

I hope I didn't miss something, but are you saying you/your hood tried to target chenn 2 nights in a row and your action failed?? (If that's the case, then we should ask nom/DB for who they Commuted on both nights)

Yes. I think that hood is nom and fb who both presumably saw this and reacted not.

Chenn hasn’t admitted being ascetic. If it’s scum interference they are lucky to an absurd degree or my hoodmate is scum. But I don’t want to light a bonfire if it’s town interference.

To make it clear: I'm not, at least as far as I'm aware of

[chennisden]

Dann is starting to get into the game a bit, he has a reads list:

TOWN

ankamius(/volpe/farkran/elements)
chennisden/firebringer/almost50/gammagooey
mariar/panthaleon/davesaz
kuribo/flavor leaf(/volxen) [---NULL LINE---]
dreasybake\deasvail
nomnomnom/espressopatronum

SCUM

Talk to me about chennisden yeah, because I think he has scum equity

Yeah, everyone was acting like he was some angel of a townie, and I don’t get it

Me neither

Literally the only reason I get townread as either alignment is because I know how to split up my posts in such a way that it feels genuine and stuff

That's why I'm able to post without giving fuckall to what people might think of the tone because I

know

it's good

And, well, to be honest the biggest reason is avi choice

All other variables are eliminated: name recognition (nope, I'm literally irrelevant), content (secret alts where I play identically & hydrae where I post the same stuff, just that I'm forced to split it up in different ways)

[chennisden]

Like seriously what is the point of my wagon. All y’all are mad about is a lack of presence. Name scummy things I’ve done. Y’all just can’t decide on an actual scum lynch so you’re going for the biggest null read in the game, and hoping for the best. I think Ank has town’s best interests at heart, so for my next trick:
Baa-Ram-Ewe
VOTE: Espresso Patronum

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

[EspressoPatronum]

My town core is A50 and FL rn

[EspressoPatronum]

I'll consolidate on DEB, but his lynch feels too easy

[chennisden]

DEB can you link me a towngame where you were a useless lurksack and got lynched for it

[chennisden]

That was a stupid question

[chennisden]

DEB does a towngame where you were a useless lurksack and got lynched for it as town exist

[EspressoPatronum]

@Ank your recent wall says the game needs more cohesion and less 1v1s. It's mildly infuriating that your main reason for voting me today is my willingness to go onto the volxen wagon despite my weak read on him. Compromise is essential to teamwork imo.

Also @Ank thanks for addressing the scumhunting thing. You described your playstyle in a similar way in one of the games you linked to me. Post #1705 the first game (cats I think?) says you play to paralyze scum rather than scumhunt, so everything seems to align with what you've said this game. You even made a comment in the dead thread about RC's scumread on you making it tough to play your normal game style (which is riding out scumreads on you to get reads on people).

Your play here resembles the cats game. I'm just having trouble reconciling how your main MO is preventing town lynches when you're on me. If you read any of my town games (Ruby Mafia, Pastries, Newbie 1936), I imagine you'll see a similar playstyle. My playstyle usually garners a few scumreads throughout the game, but I'm not exactly sure what it is yet. I believe some of it is site meta differences, but another reason could be my willingness to compromise.

[EspressoPatronum]

UNVOTE:

[nomnomnom]

I'm not feeling this lynch but for some reason the wagon feels townie.

@Ank Ico told me that you're crazy for expecting him to read this game but that he has the most experience reading A50 here

[Ankamius]

@Ank Ico told me that you're crazy for expecting him to read this game but that he has the most experience reading A50 here

this means nothing to me by itself

I know there's more here but I slept like shit so I'm going to take it easy for a bit until I'm more awake

[nomnomnom]

They're more interested in trying to hard solve the Normal so

[DeasVail]

DV who's starting to worry me because he's becoming erratic

What is worrying about that to you exactly?

[Ankamius]

then their experience reading specific players is not really that relevant

[DeasVail]

DV if you think nom is scum, why are you voting kuribo?

You're not scum again are you >:(

DV if you think nom is scum, why are you voting kuribo?

DV I'm trying to delve deep into your heart here and then you go and make another vote I don't understand it's frankly quite rude

I read a few of your links and they're not great but nothing super damning imo (though I'm going to read them again tonight when I'm not on mobile), there's a few posts around there that felt pretty genuine though (particularly nom mentioning she was laughing at creature coming in basically the second he was hammered)

The vote on kuribo was not the first time I had indicated suspicion of him, and in responding to gamma I did have some doubt on nom being scum.

I've also felt pretty low in confidence in my reads and so with my team being quite passionate about kuribo and nom being scum I wanted to push there.

[DeasVail]

Nonetheless, I am fairly confident in these people being town:

davesaz
chennisden
panthaleon (he didn't respond to my greeting though :'( )
Gammagooey
Almost50

Ankamius and MariaR are almost there for me I think.

That leaves DEB, FL, kuribo, Espresso, Firebringer, nom

I don't want to lynch FL today.

But apart from that I don't have super strong feelings personally.

[nomnomnom]

Nonetheless, I am fairly confident in these people being town:

davesaz
chennisden
panthaleon (he didn't respond to my greeting though :'( )
Gammagooey
Almost50

Ankamius and MariaR are almost there for me I think.

That leaves DEB, FL, kuribo, Espresso, Firebringer, nom

I don't want to lynch FL today.

But apart from that I don't have super strong feelings personally.

Those reads are a bunch of horseshit and completely contradict what you said previously.

You're playing according to where others want to lynch and trying to get by.
VOTE: DV

[nomnomnom]

Read his previous novels about player slots and tell me he's not adapting his reads according to the gamestate. DV is scum.

[MariaR]

I’ll post tomorrow I basically have no heating in my house cause oil is a bitch. Been working my ass off. From what I see though I’m glad we’re finally putting pressure on DEB. I was wondering if DEB was town why wasn’t he pushed sooner.

[Gammagooey]

The vote on kuribo was not the first time I had indicated suspicion of him

this is technically true but you mentioned having a townread on him pretty consistently until today (even though you mentioned once that you thought the read was at risk of getting stale)

Like I know it feels like I'm picking on you in particular b/c other people have read changes I'm not pushing on (and I have some that I haven't even bothered mentioning yet - like for instance I like EP's posts at the end of d2 and start of today a fair bit for reasons I could probably eventually describe as more than GUT but it would take a while to actually go through and try to piece out why exactly I feel that way b/c at the moment I don't know it just feels town to me) but I dislike your play around volxen pretty strongly and your play this game feels disconnected from where & when you've been voting recently and I still want to get into that more.

You say your team is pretty passionate about nom & kuribo - what have they been saying about them? Did they want kuribo dead before today or have they just wanted him dead since the volxen flip?

[Gammagooey]

vote someone you lazy fuck

Your silly aggressive side is annoying.

good

Like seriously what is the point of my wagon. All y’all are mad about is a lack of presence. Name scummy things I’ve done. Y’all just can’t decide on an actual scum lynch so you’re going for the biggest null read in the game, and hoping for the best.
VOTE: Espresso Patronum

secretly you're pretty close to right

But if it's clear you're not going to bother trying hard enough to play the game and become actually readable as town or scum that in itself is a great way for scum to skate by for as long as possible without having to put out reads that could help identify their scum partners so it's probably still worth killing you for it

So tell ya what you have put out a few mentions/reads of people today - tell me what you think of dave and nomnom's play so far and give an actual read on kuribo instead of just dicking with him and I'll be reasonably happy to vote someone else for the next few days.

[Gammagooey]

DEB does a towngame where you were a useless lurksack and got lynched for it as town exist

yes but ssh

this is literally the most important game for people to go all out and imitate their 'town metas' and all that jazz to the best of their abilities until like another team mafia gets run 2-3 years from now

meta is generally garbage and it's at its most garbage when it's an excuse for lazy/shitty play - DEB is certainly smarter than his avatar looks and he can play or he can die