Micro 916: Medical Meme Mafia (Game Over!)

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 1.03

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

Amrun

(3): GuiltyLion, Jake The Wolfie, Iconeum

Hectic

(2): GeorgeBailey, ObviousScum

Jake the Wolfie

(2): Hectic, emps

ObviousScum

(1): Amrun

GuiltyLion

(1): Non lmh

Not Voting

(0):

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-28 01:30:00).

Mod notes:

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[GuiltyLion]

Did you make that decision before or after receiving your role PM?

before

What troubles me is him asking for our opinion on claiming targets in advance, rather than giving his own. Given you read HALF a game through, I'd have thought you'd have some opinions of your own, right? I do love your fur though, so I hope we can still be acquainted.

I have some thoughts but I didn't want to just lead with it, wanted to see if people had their own to share. My gut tells me it'd be significantly useful to know who targeted who ahead of time so we know what the dead did - it restricts scums fakeclaiming space - and there's not as much way scum could manipulate it tonight since they don't have any information about which doctor is which either. however, I can see how later game it may let scum deduce which doctor is which before the town can. so I'm kinda torn, my vote is maybe on advance claiming but I still want to survey the past games to see how that either worked out or backfired

[GuiltyLion]

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

idk that your jake vote was obviously a joke, I'm not sure it was 'serious' but it seemed like a normal push?

i was talking about both hectic votes because i kind of voted hectic twice?

my jake votes kinda serious tho

But why was it serious?

because your jokes felt forced/overly formal?

Is that good evidence for me being scum, or "look at the trees" evidence?

I don't like this question, asking whether there's "good evidence" is trying to lawyer against a scumread on him instead of sorting emps in return or helping emps resolve concerns about his play.

VOTE: Jake

[Iconeum]

VOTE: non imp

[Iconeum]

@GL, that's not how I read that return question from Jake tho. I kinda liked it?

[Iconeum]

omg emps are you finally town? it looks like you are back to freely spewing/spamming without worries my dude!

[GuiltyLion]

@GL, that's not how I read that return question from Jake tho. I kinda liked it?

I'm prob didn't explain it well cause I'm kinda tired but I def don't like it, there's never going to be "good" evidence for someone being scum in early D1 and people just vote what feels kinda scummy. Jake trying to argue with it in the way that he did doesn't feel like it's meant to do anything useful, rather it's just kinda defensive and the mindset of "don't push without good evidence" discourages further content being generated.

[Iconeum]

Oh I see.

I read that like he was trying to see how serious it was, which is an ok way to do it.

[ObviousScum]

here's never going to be "good" evidence for someone being scum in early D1 and people just vote what feels kinda scummy

this is kinda what pinged me about hectic making three different posts over 10 minutes leading up to his vote on me tbh

[Jake The Wolfie]

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

idk that your jake vote was obviously a joke, I'm not sure it was 'serious' but it seemed like a normal push?

i was talking about both hectic votes because i kind of voted hectic twice?

my jake votes kinda serious tho

But why was it serious?

because your jokes felt forced/overly formal?

Is that good evidence for me being scum, or "look at the trees" evidence?

I don't like this question, asking whether there's "good evidence" is trying to lawyer against a scumread on him instead of sorting emps in return or helping emps resolve concerns about his play.

VOTE: Jake

If there is no good evidence, then why would you push for me being scum? All you're accusing me of is making a joke and questioning your reasons, and you respond with "You must be scum because how else could you explain this"

[Iconeum]

Not really game relevant but is anyone interested in spamming the shit out of this game, but leave the pagetops for our beloved mod and see just how many medical memes she made?

[Amrun]

Not really game relevant but is anyone interested in spamming the shit out of this game, but leave the pagetops for our beloved mod and see just how many medical memes she made?

Plz no

[Iconeum]

Not really game relevant but is anyone interested in spamming the shit out of this game, but leave the pagetops for our beloved mod and see just how many medical memes she made?

Plz no

I'm thinking in the lines of +- 50 posts/player/irl day

[GeorgeBailey]

is that the right image?

It's the right one....but could have been done better

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: JakeThewolfie

I'm not liking your reaction to the wagon right now.

I hope my voting isn't too...

HECTIC

Spoiler:

ok ok i'll stop now

[GuiltyLion]

If there is no good evidence, then why would you push for me being scum?

what do you suggest we do instead to try to sort people, especially in the early game?

[Jake The Wolfie]

If there is no good evidence, then why would you push for me being scum?

what do you suggest we do instead to try to sort people, especially in the early game?

Talk about who our potential targets for protection are.

[Jake The Wolfie]

And just to point out, I am now at L-1, so back the fuck up, thanks.

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: JackTheWolf

Ok wait I didn't notice that

[GeorgeBailey]

UNVOTE: JackTheWolf

How did I eve

wat

[Hectic]

VOTE: JakeThewolfie

I'm not liking your reaction to the wagon right now.

I hope my voting isn't too...

HECTIC

Spoiler:

ok ok i'll stop now

Do it again. I dare you.

[Hectic]

What's wrong with him being on L-1, George? If anyone hammers him knowing that this early, it's basically a scumclaim.

[Hectic]

If there is no good evidence, then why would you push for me being scum?

what do you suggest we do instead to try to sort people, especially in the early game?

Talk about who our potential targets for protection are.

You're playing significantly differently so far to this newbie game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7&start=50
You're joking around early there too, but it was while pushing/sorting people, and asking people to elaborate on reads often. You had some nice thoughts in this post.

[Hectic]

Do you have thoughts on Amrun's early read on Obum, or his read on me for example?

[GeorgeBailey]

There's a fair chance that it's not, then I get blamed for putting him at L-1.

I also think he made a fair point in 117.

Would it be good or bad if we claimed. according to the setup?