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[kuribo]

do you agree that if there's scum in this hood, all the town abstaining does nothing but give the scum in the hood free rein to vote remove whoever they want?

So then when someone turns up voteless you know you have a mole that's voting against the town's abstaining



But no just use it in ways you think are "funny"

[MariaR]

There's 2 protective hoods and an invest hood while we sit here with a roleblock and shitty ass LMS power? What the fuck I want a refund.

Btw let me make this statement again. I feel like if DEB was town he would've been pushed a lot sooner/easier to vote. Is that wrong orrrrrrrr? Like, come on now.

[MariaR]

I just want FB/DEB/EP all killed why can't I have nice things

[EspressoPatronum]

Btw I have been the one to strongman Dave roleblocks yes I can conf that.
I might ask for it again. We'll see how I feel
pedit: Kuri pls, I get you're mad (rightfully so) but Ank is town

Roleblocking dave's hood for a third time in a row seems like a bad idea given that his hood is likely an investigative.

[MariaR]

Btw I have been the one to strongman Dave roleblocks yes I can conf that.
I might ask for it again. We'll see how I feel
pedit: Kuri pls, I get you're mad (rightfully so) but Ank is town

Roleblocking dave's hood for a third time in a row seems like a bad idea given that his hood is likely an investigative.

O. Didn't read that part, then fine I don't see a reason to roleblock them.

[EspressoPatronum]

Part of me wants to vote in one of the 2-person hoods that likely have scum.

The other part wants to know more about their respective LMS powers before we commit to lynching there.

Thoughts? Pros/cons for discussing LMS of hoods that we intend to lynch down to 1?

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Dr Easy Bake

[Ankamius]

still interested in massclaiming

[MariaR]

VOTE: DEB
Let's see where this leads.

[EspressoPatronum]

We should at least discuss the implications of giving Gamma the LMS before we commit to lynching DEB.

Also, why didn't they reveal another power like they did N1?

[kuribo]

I townread gamma and have no problem with him having an LMS ability

[davesaz]

If DV is scum then the scumteam already knows this, and if not then they'll think it's investigative given the discussion.
The really unfortunate part is that it's not an investigative, it's an inventor that gives things with investigative powers.
So you've fucked town out of N2 and N3 attempts, and we now have to try to give the invention N3 to act on N4 and not have any potential result until D5.

In case anyone gives a shit, I play PR's of this type as scummy as I can without getting lynched, so that I don't end up scum target number one.
I finally get it right and nobody forces me to over crumb/soft to the point that scum guesses it anyway, and one of my arch nemesis decides to yolo RB anyway.
That's just great. Thanks a lot.

[MariaR]

Who gets the LMS isn't really something that factors into my vote on DEB. No one wants DEB near lylo right?
Deb hasn't given us anything useful, even from teammates.
It took this long for that slot to be pushed. Even when Vol has the same number of posts and were more useful. Hmmmmmmmmm

[Ankamius]

Eddie Cane has an announcement about the last man standing powers:

If you think that a hood is TvS (+1 dead slot obv), then it's still worth lynching the scum in that hood. Worst case, you leave one scum alive and they can't use their LMS power in a way that's blatantly obvious, because then they just out themselves as scum. It's not smart to ignore scumreads just because you don't want scum to potentially have LMS, because there's enough info out there about the neighborhoods that it will be laughably easy to catch them. This setup is really simple at its core.

[kuribo]

Eddie Cane has an announcement about the last man standing powers:

If you think that a hood is TvS (+1 dead slot obv), then it's still worth lynching the scum in that hood. Worst case, you leave one scum alive and they can't use their LMS power in a way that's blatantly obvious, because then they just out themselves as scum. It's not smart to ignore scumreads just because you don't want scum to potentially have LMS, because there's enough info out there about the neighborhoods that it will be laughably easy to catch them. This setup is really simple at its core.

I think you should channel Eddie more often



I like him a lot better than I like you right now

[Ankamius]

ok firebringer

[MariaR]

I

n case anyone gives a shit, I play PR's of this type as scummy as I can without getting lynched, so that I don't end up scum target number one.

I finally get it right and nobody forces me to over crumb/soft to the point that scum guesses it anyway, and one of my arch nemesis decides to yolo RB anyway.
That's just great. Thanks a lot.

AND YOU'RE HERE QUESTIONING WHY I SCUMREAD YOUR ASS? Like, come on Dave don't blame me. We had one talk to try and fix this and yet no one came out of it. Like I've been open to talking more but if you wanna go down this path then jeesh

[EspressoPatronum]

Eddie Cane has an announcement about the last man standing powers:

If you think that a hood is TvS (+1 dead slot obv), then it's still worth lynching the scum in that hood. Worst case, you leave one scum alive and they can't use their LMS power in a way that's blatantly obvious, because then they just out themselves as scum. It's not smart to ignore scumreads just because you don't want scum to potentially have LMS, because there's enough info out there about the neighborhoods that it will be laughably easy to catch them. This setup is really simple at its core.

If we don't know what the LMS is, then it's harder for us to determine if the scum used it in a way that helps or hinders town.

I understand that you also want a mass-claim, so I think we're on the same page there. All I'm saying is we don't need to rush this.

We still need answers for:
- what is the power revealer LMS
- Why didn't they reveal a power on N2?

[kuribo]

ok firebringer

Okay realtalk, what were you hoping to accomplish making me voteless because it was "funny?"


Were you hoping I'd get pissed off and scream nonstop? Fill the thread with forty pages of nonsense? Maybe even get banned? How is any of that a town mindset? Is that funny to you?


How can you sit there and talk about your ability should be roleblocked when you're choosing to use it "to be funny" in the first place?

[Almost50]

I townread gamma and have no problem with him having an LMS ability

+1

[Almost50]

As for massclaiming, our hood is the only one with known LMS. Gammagooy's is the only one with unknown hood power. All other 4 we know the hood power but not LMS.

[Ankamius]

ok firebringer

Okay realtalk, what were you hoping to accomplish making me voteless because it was "funny?"


Were you hoping I'd get pissed off and scream nonstop? Fill the thread with forty pages of nonsense? Maybe even get banned? How is any of that a town mindset? Is that funny to you?


How can you sit there and talk about your ability should be roleblocked when you're choosing to use it "to be funny" in the first place?

I think you're overestimating how much of a shit I gave on n2

[davesaz]

That's part of the math I was holding off on talking about. (pedit this was about the Eddie Cane comment I think)
Every hood with scum starts out like 3p lylo.
Every hood with a dead townie is a potential immediate 1v1. If both remaining members are town then worst case you get a LMS in the hands of town.

Me not dying could mean DV is town and this has just been extreme bad luck / bad aim in the RB hood's targeting systems.
In that case getting things out there is a chance to at least salvage things with a little game of follow the cop.

If the commuter hood commutes an entire hood, then that's bad news since it would be tantamount to a RB. If it's an individual (and it doesn't prevent hood voting) I could use a favor. Or perhaps a doc if available.

Pedit @Maria
I should clarify a bit. I don't mean I try to appear scummy, it's more like I have info that I'm not going to share and being careful is interpreted as scummy which is kinda what I want. I challenge anyone to point to something specific I have posted and state a clear scum motivation for it. You should update your meta on me to expect this kind of thing and we'll get along much better.

[Ankamius]

like I expected it to be a thing for like 2 days and then it would be over and we'd move on

I didn't think it would be that big an issue that it would be cascading this far and outright threatening to derail the game because it basically fizzled out the first time and ended up having no impact on anything

[Ankamius]

if it helps

I thought that how you'd react and segue into the game would be very indicative for your alignment