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[Almost50]

btw anyone know offhand who was scumreading volpe throughout d1-d2?

that's something I want to investigate into

Off the top of my head, EP had him as a scum lean at one point, but it was my slot (influenced by skitter) that probably made most of the fuss about him.

[EspressoPatronum]

How about, and I know this is a really insane idea.

We focus on who's been scummy instead of getting blinded by who gets x power and who's in what hood.

You can do both!

The power / hood / mechanics stuff is double edged. Do it too much in this game and you'll get a witch hunt that wipes out an all town hood and all it's abilities with it. Do it right and combine it with the behavior / voting patterns and it can reveal the manipulations we almost have to assume are going on at some level.

Correct. Hence my assertion that we can do both.

MariaR's statement came in response to our discussion on DEB's LMS. There's no reason we can't call DEB scummy and also look at what will happen with the hood's LMS ability.

[Almost50]

Gamma's hood must have something to do with power and LMS reveals.

No other hood power explains the Breitbart leak from N1.

Again, that was probably a 1-shot individual thing that exposes a hood's abilities at random. I can't even begin to imagine that (a) It was targeted, so Scum already knew at least one member of the hood, and (b) They have more shots to reveal all hoods abilities. That would be much too powerful a utility.

[EspressoPatronum]

btw anyone know offhand who was scumreading volpe throughout d1-d2?

that's something I want to investigate into

Off the top of my head, EP had him as a scum lean at one point, but it was my slot (influenced by skitter) that probably made most of the fuss about him.

[...]

Town

FL (drops if Ank is scum)
MariaR
kuribo

Townlean

chenn
nomnom
dave

Scumlean

Volpe (note - recent change. I had Volpe as a Townlean earlier)

Scum

Ankamius
Gamma

Everyone else is null.

[...]

I'll do an updated list soon.

[kuribo]

How about, and I know this is a really insane idea.

We focus on who's been scummy instead of getting blinded by who gets x power and who's in what hood.

You can do both!

The power / hood / mechanics stuff is double edged. Do it too much in this game and you'll get a witch hunt that wipes out an all town hood and all it's abilities with it. Do it right and combine it with the behavior / voting patterns and it can reveal the manipulations we almost have to assume are going on at some level.

Correct. Hence my assertion that we can do both.

MariaR's statement came in response to our discussion on DEB's LMS. There's no reason we can't call DEB scummy and also look at what will happen with the hood's LMS ability.

I agree on this


We can't be afraid to lynch scum just because we could be wrong and be giving scum an LMS ability


Like that could literally go for every single game ever if you're afraid to lynch scum.


We gotta lynch all of the scum anyway.

[Flavor Leaf]

Scum with an LMS ability could out them anyways.

I’m willing to let one of the commuters take the LMS ability’s

Nomnom implied they can go during the day time, so I was feeling it was a day Vig shot, which I probably get hit with, and it down to eat a bullet Day 4 if necessary. Just don’t let my death be worth nothing in that case.

Nomnom’s been using scare tactics with it tbh.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think I wanna lynch Nomnom

[kuribo]

I still want someone to explain why mom is scum. Not that I can vote about it thanks to Ank but I'd still like to know why the scumreads there.


As I said I felt like the D1 flip out was really town, and I do read emotion better than most people on the site

[MariaR]

My EP scumread is the one that's hardest for me to get. Because it's based on his competence level. Sure, I liked our talk and I understand his reasoning now. But that first post was before it was even close to optimal. Why do people tr him?

[kuribo]

I still want someone to explain why mom is scum.

EBWOP

Nom not mom


My mom isn't scum she just likes heroin and makes bad life choices and alienates everyone in her life by being mean and toxic or cold and indifferent to them

[Flavor Leaf]

I still want someone to explain why mom is scum. Not that I can vote about it thanks to Ank but I'd still like to know why the scumreads there.


As I said I felt like the D1 flip out was really town, and I do read emotion better than most people on the site

You of all people should know that scum can flip out too

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t even remember said flip out. Nomnom is stained because they stab me in the back once a day phase just to drop it

[kuribo]

I still want someone to explain why mom is scum. Not that I can vote about it thanks to Ank but I'd still like to know why the scumreads there.


As I said I felt like the D1 flip out was really town, and I do read emotion better than most people on the site

You of all people should know that scum can flip out too

Yah no shit, and what I'm telling you is I can tell the difference. Possibly better than anyone else.

My entire play style for years was based on driving people into an emotional response and then judging their reactions. It's just that it turns out it's not sustainable because it's hard to get the murdercock soft again and it's emotionally draining on me.

[MariaR]

MariaR's statement came in response to our discussion on DEB's LMS. There's no reason we can't call DEB scummy and also look at what will happen with the hood's LMS ability.

Of course not, but if you focus so much and get lost in mechs it's something easy for scum to talk on and you get lost in the overall viewpoint of the game.

[Dr Easy Bake]

@FL here's the proof in the refried beans

Spoiler:

[Dr Easy Bake]

I actually think DV is the best lynch for the dayVOTE: DV Fox Person

[chennisden]

Sure whatever I'll claim. Maybe it'll spur some discussion.

My Neighborhood has the ability to role block the group ability of another Neighborhood. We vote on a player, and then that player's Neighborhood is blocked. We picked Davesaz both nights, though tbh I'm not really sure the deeper motivations because I replace in more or less as night ended.

At this time I will not be revealing who the other members of my Neighborhood are, since I think our ability is good if Neighborhoods start whittling away and town-oriented group PRs flip over to scum. I don't want them to be potential targets.

Please roleblock us in the future because our thing is straight up anti town

[chennisden]

(US = Chennis, Ank, A50)

[chennisden]

Massclaim is ok btw

[chennisden]

How about, and I know this is a really insane idea.

We focus on who's been scummy instead of getting blinded by who gets x power and who's in what hood.

You can do both!

X

[chennisden]

DV is fine by me because he seems under the radar

[chennisden]

Vex/panthaleon is close to locktown for me btw

[kuribo]

Sure whatever I'll claim. Maybe it'll spur some discussion.

My Neighborhood has the ability to role block the group ability of another Neighborhood. We vote on a player, and then that player's Neighborhood is blocked. We picked Davesaz both nights, though tbh I'm not really sure the deeper motivations because I replace in more or less as night ended.

At this time I will not be revealing who the other members of my Neighborhood are, since I think our ability is good if Neighborhoods start whittling away and town-oriented group PRs flip over to scum. I don't want them to be potential targets.

Please roleblock us in the future because our thing is straight up anti town

That's two people from your group who have made that request


Why keep using it in that case?

[panthaleon]

Maybe A50 disagrees

[kuribo]

A50 was the one that told the two of them not to make me voteless and outted the neighborhood in protest