Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 2.15

unwnd (7) -

Amrun, Eddie Cane, Something_Smart, DrDolittle, Hectic, pisskop, OkaPoka

pisskop (2) -

Nancy Drew 39, Elsa Jay

Elsa Jay (1) -

unwnd

NaCl (1) -

Titus

Not Voting (2) -

bob3141, NaCl

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

[Micc]

unwnd has been lynched Day 2. They were a

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.

It is now Night 2. The deadline for Night 2 is in (expired on 2020-01-22 00:15:00).

[Micc]

There were no deaths Night 2.

It is now Day 3.

Votecount 3.00

Not Voting (12) -

Eddie Cane, Titus, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39, DrDolittle, Hectic, pisskop, Amrun, NaCl, bob3141

With 12 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2020-02-05 00:15:00).

[Elsa Jay]

Thus I was shot by Pisskop but healed.

Such is life.

[Hectic]

Lul, did you try to shoot Eddie, Elsa?

VOTE: Elsa

[Eddie Cane]

1st of all, knowing Pine is town, Krazy is scum, and Pops is scum, my day 1 ISO is pretty close to a perfect game. Damn. Haha. DDL, if you landed a save on me, good fucking play not saving me night 1. If its on Oka, neat. If its on a random other person lmfao good job.

Yes, I will hard claim PO now that there is one scum left. No point not doing it. I was trying to play scummy enough day 1 that I would not get night killed, but also trying very hard to control the game in a serviceable direction because I disagreed with all of the wagons at the time... it was rough. I hate rolling PRs. Despise it. But... I think we just win now most likely.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean, if you don't want to get a perfect triple scum lynch in a row be my guest.

But frankly this seems more like scum giving up because it's basically almost game throwing to not kill the doctor. I would've put even a modicum more effort in.

[Hectic]

Who do you think's the last scum then?

[Eddie Cane]

Hard clearing Eddie, DDL, Oka, Titus, SS, Amrun, and Nancy

Eddie, DDL, Oka mod confirmed town. Titus is not scum, full stop. SS and Amrun are just, I reread a bunch of day 1 in the night, I do not think they sounded like they were bussing at all, would not touch them this game ever. Particularly knowing Krazy is scum. Nancy... hard town read both Pops and Krazy, but I'm still pretty sure she's just lock town. If you accept Nancy as town, this game is auto.

Leaves Elsa, Hectic, Piss, NaCl, bob

At the start of night, I had a kill order of Elsa / Piss > bob > NaCl > Hectic. After rereading, I think I now have Elsa / Piss / Hectic > Bob / NaCl. I don't actually really care on the order, because I think its auto, but still okay to double check.

[Eddie Cane]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=74684
Last TM, we killed scum d1 and d2, and then d3 Ginngie faked a guilty on a townie so we did not have a perfect game. Shall we break that record?

Elsa: Ank thinks this is her town game.
Piss: Dann thinks Piss is not with Pops (d1 read). Ank thinks Piss is town.
Hectic: has some super partnery posts, also has some super not partnery posts.
Bob: buried his partner, still robotic, if there's a bus vote probably here maybe??
NaCl: Just seems... town. Has not posted a lot, another potential light busser to look at.

Does anybody in these 5 have a great argument for why they're town?

[Elsa Jay]

If I only have one request before my death Eddie, is that we lynch Pisskop first before me.

[Eddie Cane]

Who do you think is scum if we kill Piss and the game doesn't end?

[Hectic]

Where does your confidence on SS stem from, Eddie? I didn't reread much during the night, but nothing comes to mind which makes him confident town for me.

[Eddie Cane]

Spoiler: Votewall

Votecount 1.27

popsofctown (5) -

Eddie Cane, Amrun, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, bob3141

Eddie Cane (3) -

popsofctown, Krazy, pisskop

Pine (3) -

Hectic, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39

DrDolittle (1) -

Titus

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

Prodding NaCl.

Krazy has requested replacement.

unwnd replaces Krazy on team Ripple's Krazy Mistress Dunn.

Votecount 1.28

popsofctown (4) -

Amrun, Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane

Eddie Cane (4) -

popsofctown, unwnd, pisskop, Elsa Jay

Pine (3) -

Hectic, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39

DrDolittle (1) -

Titus

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

Votecount 1.29

popsofctown (4) -

Amrun, Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane

Eddie Cane (4) -

popsofctown, unwnd, pisskop, Elsa Jay

Pine (3) -

Hectic, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39

DrDolittle (1) -

Titus

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

Votecount 1.30

popsofctown (5) -

Amrun, Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane, Titus

Eddie Cane (2) -

popsofctown, Elsa Jay

unwnd (2) -

OkaPoka, DrDolittle

NaCl (2) -

Pine, pisskop

Pine (1) -

Hectic

Not Voting (3) -

NaCl, unwnd, Nancy Drew 39

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

I really think this was the pivotal moment of things, and Elsa definitely looks the worst from all of it. I don't have another wall about it's just like, Elsa seemed set on Eddie until things starting to turn.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

So here's the thing with Elsa: unwnd spent most of yesterday trying to kill her. But after this post, he barely addresses her existence. If that's a bus on a partner, I think I'd expect more bravado? Because this push doesn't do enough to get her town pooled on his lynch, so she probably doesn't endgame. And it probably doesn't take him out of the PoE either on an Elsa lynch. Dunno. Its the type of push that actually would look partnery on d1, but on d2 with a dead scum and a narrow PoE... eh?

[Eddie Cane]

Where does your confidence on SS stem from, Eddie? I didn't reread much during the night, but nothing comes to mind which makes him confident town for me.

Nothing day 2. Read the end of day 1, his initial vote on Pops, and his reads posts. There's a lot of analysis day 1, and if he is partners with both unwnd and Krazy, his trajectory doesn't really make sense. I am hard tunnelling both of his partners, so vocally siding with me without too much bravado is a weird angle as scum. I was a bit paranoid of him yesterday, but after rereading his posting just didn't feel like scum. He also knows me better than most people in this lobby, so he would know I am a player that gets lynches through for better or worse, and adding a vote to the ammunition on his partners is... I think suboptimal. I also don't think he'd want to play the deep game to f3 in TM.

I do not love his sparse activity, but its not super abnormal for him. He's probably among the lightest in the town clears with Nancy for me. And yea, he had a couple really good analysis posts yesterday imo. Are you still scumspecting him?

[Hectic]

Oh yeah, I did read that earlier and think it made Elsa a lot more likely town actually. VOTE: NaCl
On SS, I didn't actually like his vote on Pops since the reason he gave was incorrect/weird, and kinda felt like bussing to me since he put the vote on and then didn't push her. Anyway, gonna get some much needed sleep now; I'll have to reread interactions tomorrow.

[DrDolittle]

My pool is strictly in (pisskop, hectic, Bob) but subjected more heavy screening

[Elsa Jay]

Who do you think is scum if we kill Piss and the game doesn't end?

Probably Bob. Thats the evilest name I know.

[DrDolittle]

I actually will take a back seat for a couple of days and read more stuff

[Eddie Cane]

Who was your save on bro?

Is there a reason Elsa is not there? Or is she just auxiliary (4th)? NaCl was the towniest/5th in my pool (and we have 5 kills) so no complaints there.

[OkaPoka]

alright i spent some time doing the math

game is an autowin trust me

question of whether how many lynches we want to wait for scum to drag this out but as long as we dont lynch conf town game is over

[Elsa Jay]

Well I'm telling you I would've killed the doctor so I could have a Fricken chance, because I can basic math too.

Does that mean whoever made the kill (or lack of kill) was a newb scum or miscounted the math?

[OkaPoka]

Where does your confidence on SS stem from, Eddie? I didn't reread much during the night, but nothing comes to mind which makes him confident town for me.

Nothing day 2. Read the end of day 1, his initial vote on Pops, and his reads posts. There's a lot of analysis day 1, and if he is partners with both unwnd and Krazy, his trajectory doesn't really make sense. I am hard tunnelling both of his partners, so vocally siding with me without too much bravado is a weird angle as scum. I was a bit paranoid of him yesterday, but after rereading his posting just didn't feel like scum. He also knows me better than most people in this lobby, so he would know I am a player that gets lynches through for better or worse, and adding a vote to the ammunition on his partners is... I think suboptimal. I also don't think he'd want to play the deep game to f3 in TM.

I do not love his sparse activity, but its not super abnormal for him. He's probably among the lightest in the town clears with Nancy for me. And yea, he had a couple really good analysis posts yesterday imo. Are you still scumspecting him?

some food for thought is when i opened the game tunneling krazy the reason why i end up soft clearing krazy from pops was that pops sided with me to lynch krazy

of course i dont get the lynches i want and i ended up hammering unwnd for other reasons but soft bussing isnt exactly out of the realm of possibility here

however

i do think its more likely atp that scum just dont have a plan and are going with the flow

[Eddie Cane]

Well I'm telling you I would've killed the doctor so I could have a Fricken chance, because I can basic math too.

Does that mean whoever made the kill (or lack of kill) was a newb scum or miscounted the math?

Killing myself/Oka is actually fine, because the doctor is outed. Going to evens is not an issue, just means they think (Eddie/Oka) is more of a threat than DDL and/or they prefer evens. Doesn't have to be a misplay.

[OkaPoka]

u know whats real wack

in my pt with unwnd during n1

i told unwnd i very much scumread him

and that if he was town i needed him to push pine with me

very wack