Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Eddie Cane]

entire unwnd iso reads as someone who just gave up lmfao

maybe its just the obvious pool

This is lowkey part of why I'm not exactly super worried, haha

[OkaPoka]

My last post was a half-truth. The reality of the situation is that I am personally opposed to receiving help but also they are no longer caught up with the game, therefore I would like to speak of my own merit.

Why didn't you just say that the first time, though?

@NaCl: It was because of Bob's recent posts. I've seen this type of VCA from him before where he insists most wagons have 1 scum on them and tries to PoE using that logic. Mind you, I don't entirely agree with the theory, but his persistence about it is consistent with my other games with him. Though, I haven't actually played with scum!him so that's something to note.

This is useful and I'll wait on seeing what you're specifically talking about before I say more.

@NaCl: How didn’t I answer your question about bob? Can you be more specific, then? Because I thought I did.

That wall about me and pops not being s/s is fine and all, and factually accurate, but none of it says why if pops flips green then you’d suddenly scumread me.

For bob, I was asking about his more recent posts. I mostly wanted to know if 1603 and 1605 were something you were townreading him of off and if so, why.

As for you, it's because I'd believe that if it came from someone else other than pops really easily. I'd feel much more confident in the lynch if I knew that she was town.

This specific post doesn't matter much but up to here NaCl has had both unwnd(krazy) and pops in his scum pool

and yet

Votecount 1.29

popsofctown (4) -

Amrun, Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane

Eddie Cane (4) -

popsofctown, unwnd, pisskop, Elsa Jay

Pine (3) -

Hectic, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39

DrDolittle (1) -

Titus

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

VOTE: unwnd

VOTE: unwnd

opportunities to wagon either and doesn't jump on it and then doesn't post until d3

competing wagons are eddie and pine in which NaCl trs both earlier

fits the idea that pops didn't think she was going down yet, and there was a very clear opportunity to vote a scumread rather than let a tr get pushed yet NaCl chooses to remain not-voting

but pivoting to vote eddie is very incriminating so inaction is very beneficial for scum here

[OkaPoka]

I find the notion that people didnt auto tell their team their role hilarious. I still cant tell if people are being serious about that.

My team actually did a rotation thingy where some people are spoiled and some are unspoiled in each game and I felt really smart for bringing it up...

I'd thought it would be a good way of giving a variety of perspectives that can't be obtained from a single player.

The above was from Pine.

My friend, all of bob’s posts sound like dry bread in disguise, always. Does that really make the bread bag empty? The bread bag is not empty here. It’s like hearty whole wheat bread with oats and pumpkin seeds and stuff. If the bread bag was empty, that would be when bob is scum.

And ignoring the content of his posts because they’re walls with typos and make your eyes glaze over is a mistake. When he’s town, he’s sharp.


I don’t like, and I don’t understand, this thought that you think pops is scummy, but it pops flips town, then I’m scum. I just had a game where scum set me up just like that and was mislynched in LyLo over it.

Being wrong doesn’t make someone scum, especially when it’s something you yourself agree with. ?!?

And pops posting lately has been BETTEr, not worse.

I agree with the argument pops was making and I was feeling it myself, but at the same time I don't trust pops enough to agree with it unless I know she's town. I don't think that she's trying to distance herself from you as S/S because this setup is incentivized not to bus and I don't see you in a position where you'd be able to get to endgame from bussing her. If she flips scum, then I strongly think you're town. But in either case, lynching her is far better than any of the other lynches because I think she's likely scum and even if not, I think it would give the most information.

Regarding bob, I just wanted to understand your thought process. I know he's had some good posts. But you didn't answer my question. I'm not as interested in reading on bob as I am on reading you.

@NaCl: I've seen him do a very similar type of VCA as town in a kinda recent large game. He just feels incredibly similar here, and his pushes and behaviour are all genuine imo.

Could you show me those links? Because I agree that his general behaviour has been towny from before, but you didn't answer the specific question I'd just asked you which was about those specific posts from bob and what you thought of them.

I said he would endgame me, and he quoted me saying he would endgame me and said "get fucked kid"

that is bragging about endgaming me

I think this is the most important post in the thread. Pops, Eddie, can you both tell me which one of Pops's posts in this thread was the next one she made after this was said in your hood? (I'm pretty sure this is within the rules but someone please stop this otherwise).

Pops, Eddie, do either of you want to answer this?

Like NaCl makes this post where he comes to the conclusion he scumreads pops and wants to lynch it and he has the ability to break a tie to vote pops yet doesn't?

[Nancy Drew 39]

It bothers me that 1966 has this teabagging assumption of reading everything I do as scum but doesn't actually canvas for votes, that might be what Ali means by saying it's a post like he's ahead.

It has been really interesting to see how Ali's approach to town (oh wait I don't have to backspace VT thanks Ed) VT is different and makes me wish maybe I hydra'ed more, though I'm pretty firmly against the unfair advantage element and want pure-hydra-games to come up

I think you got the post number wrong again. 1966 was a post asking you who your statement was directed at.


And all these posts any you have no yet answered one of my questions.

So what does you bases does your read on me have. As all of a sudden i make it quite clear im scum reading and behold you claim to have started scum reading. Yet you cant come up with any baises for teh read. In fact all you can come up with is tht bob must be deep wolfing but even then you cant come up with any substance.

Yet again you just dodged the questions i put to you.


VOTE: pops

Hmmm . . .

[OkaPoka]

alright intensive rereading of stuff over for now

ill need to take a step back and make sure i didn't rabbit hole myself but i think its pointing towards nacl

[Nancy Drew 39]

My last post was a half-truth. The reality of the situation is that I am personally opposed to receiving help but also they are no longer caught up with the game, therefore I would like to speak of my own merit.

Why didn't you just say that the first time, though?

@NaCl: It was because of Bob's recent posts. I've seen this type of VCA from him before where he insists most wagons have 1 scum on them and tries to PoE using that logic. Mind you, I don't entirely agree with the theory, but his persistence about it is consistent with my other games with him. Though, I haven't actually played with scum!him so that's something to note.

This is useful and I'll wait on seeing what you're specifically talking about before I say more.

@NaCl: How didn’t I answer your question about bob? Can you be more specific, then? Because I thought I did.

That wall about me and pops not being s/s is fine and all, and factually accurate, but none of it says why if pops flips green then you’d suddenly scumread me.

For bob, I was asking about his more recent posts. I mostly wanted to know if 1603 and 1605 were something you were townreading him of off and if so, why.

As for you, it's because I'd believe that if it came from someone else other than pops really easily. I'd feel much more confident in the lynch if I knew that she was town.

This specific post doesn't matter much but up to here NaCl has had both unwnd(krazy) and pops in his scum pool

and yet

Votecount 1.29

popsofctown (4) -

Amrun, Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane

Eddie Cane (4) -

popsofctown, unwnd, pisskop, Elsa Jay

Pine (3) -

Hectic, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39

DrDolittle (1) -

Titus

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

VOTE: unwnd

VOTE: unwnd

opportunities to wagon either and doesn't jump on it and then doesn't post until d3

competing wagons are eddie and pine in which NaCl trs both earlier

fits the idea that pops didn't think she was going down yet, and there was a very clear opportunity to vote a scumread rather than let a tr get pushed yet NaCl chooses to remain not-voting

but pivoting to vote eddie is very incriminating so inaction is very beneficial for scum here

Could be?

He wasn’t on any wagon.

[Something_Smart]

Hi

College is hard ok

I do not soft defend my partners, nor do I soft bus them ftr

It's 3:30 am and I have class in 5 1/2 hours so more tomorrow if I'm not completely dead

[OkaPoka]

i think voting with rc because BoP onto your partners is soft bussing

[OkaPoka]

anyways not really relevant to this stage of the game

but i am interested

hows the nacl pt

[Nancy Drew 39]

anyways not really relevant to this stage of the game

but i am interested

hows the nacl pt

There isn’t any scum player who never busses.

[pisskop]

My pool is strictly in (pisskop, hectic, Bob) but subjected more heavy screening

hooo doodles. hang on to your horses.

who did you doc?

[pisskop]

I am going to be honest, I think these 3 posts mean I can't let Piss live this game even if there are townie points

we lynch by the numbers, no reason not to

[pisskop]

we lynch by the numbers, no reason not to

sooo, lets do a list and then murderdeathkill down it.


my prefered list includes hec and bob. salt is on it too tho

[pisskop]

prefered

[Titus]

Meh the last realistic Nancy scum scenario died when Nancy flipped scum.

NaCl, Pisskop, SS and Bob is the pool I'd vote gtmh.

Strongly prefer NaCl or Pisskop though.

VOTE: NaCl

[Titus]

I also don't think that I'd hold it against scum if they gave up.

[Nancy Drew 39]

My pool is strictly in (pisskop, hectic, Bob) but subjected more heavy screening

hooo doodles. hang on to your horses.

who did you doc?

@DDL, do not answer this.

This question is antitown, since you know doc is indecisive.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Meh the last realistic Nancy scum scenario died when

Nancy

flipped scum.

NaCl, Pisskop, SS and Bob is the pool I'd vote gtmh.

Strongly prefer NaCl or Pisskop though.

VOTE: NaCl

Lolwut?

[Titus]

Meh the last realistic Nancy scum scenario died when

Nancy

flipped scum.

NaCl, Pisskop, SS and Bob is the pool I'd vote gtmh.

Strongly prefer NaCl or Pisskop though.

VOTE: NaCl

Lolwut?

Bold should be unwnd.

[Nancy Drew 39]

My pool is strictly in (pisskop, hectic, Bob) but subjected more heavy screening

hooo doodles. hang on to your horses.

who did you doc?

@DDL, do not answer this.

This question is antitown, since you know doc is indecisive.

I view this post as highly suspicious. There really is no town reason for asking this.

VOTE: Piss

[Titus]

My pool is strictly in (pisskop, hectic, Bob) but subjected more heavy screening

hooo doodles. hang on to your horses.

who did you doc?

@DDL, do not answer this.

This question is antitown, since you know doc is indecisive.

Um scum also know this?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Meh the last realistic Nancy scum scenario died when

Nancy

flipped scum.

NaCl, Pisskop, SS and Bob is the pool I'd vote gtmh.

Strongly prefer NaCl or Pisskop though.

VOTE: NaCl

Lolwut?

Bold should be unwnd.

I figured as much.

[Nancy Drew 39]

My pool is strictly in (pisskop, hectic, Bob) but subjected more heavy screening

hooo doodles. hang on to your horses.

who did you doc?

@DDL, do not answer this.

This question is antitown, since you know doc is indecisive.

Um scum also know this?

Oh right.

UNVOTE:

[Nancy Drew 39]

My pool is strictly in (pisskop, hectic, Bob) but subjected more heavy screening

hooo doodles. hang on to your horses.

who did you doc?

@DDL, do not answer this.

This question is antitown, since you know doc is indecisive.

Um scum also know this?

Oh right.

UNVOTE:

So they didn’t just give up then, town outsmarted them.

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: NaCl