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Post Post #5275 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:53 am

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In post 5271, Aristophanes wrote:I mean, I have to look back at that again because some details get fuzzy in a game of this size and pace. He has uber-denied saying aome things he definitely said, like that we have his permission to BoP Lynch him if we get 2 mislynches led by himself with no scum flips. But none of it was malicious.

Him flipping out is hard to head because you never know what will set him off.

And he didn't believe the clear so I don't think voting him for that is reasonable at this time. If he continues to vote you, that is a different story. He would have to abandon his Ico Townread and volley for the lynching of either Doc or their Clear which, well I could still see so we'll find out what happens there I guess.
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Post Post #5276 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:54 am

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In post 5273, Aristophanes wrote:Also I'm still pretty unlikely to vote RC here so I'd suggest putting your efforts into convincing the other half of the playerlist.

If they're going to be here.
Why are you unlikely to vote RC?
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Post Post #5277 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:58 am

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Ari, I'm waiting for nice things in sauds iso from you.

Math, I'll try to word vomit later. I get that I wasn't clear enough earlier.
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Post Post #5278 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:58 am

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Btw if RC flips town then Ico is 100% clear
If RC flips scum consider Ico in mylo/Lylo and not a moment sooner. Scum will likely have to kill him if he’s scum. Ico I don’t scumread you AT ALL just covering paranoia bases and if it keeps you alive longer win win for us.
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Post Post #5279 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:59 am

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In post 5278, MathBlade wrote:Btw if RC flips town then Ico is 100% clear
If RC flips scum consider Ico in mylo/Lylo and not a moment sooner. Scum will likely have to kill him if he’s scum. Ico I don’t scumread you AT ALL just covering paranoia bases and if it keeps you alive longer win win for us.
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Post Post #5280 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:00 am

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Ico wagon bouncing today is really odd tho? Like he's been on four wagons.
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Post Post #5281 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:00 am

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Would lynch in RC+Skitter(only on RC scum flip)+Ari/Bella/Shos(moves equal to Ari/Skitter on RC scum flip) probably in that order
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Post Post #5282 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:01 am

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In post 5280, Bellaphant wrote:Ico wagon bouncing today is really odd tho? Like he's been on four wagons.
Yes

He’s been playing sheep the Mathy and I have been all over the place.
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Post Post #5283 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:02 am

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BBmolla’s last post is still mentioning Ari scum so that’s a thing.
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Post Post #5284 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:15 am

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guys i'm struck by a concussion

if you need anything from me i'll try to keep up

Why don't you continue arguing about who's actually a game-solving lynch here

my suggestion still stands at shos

high scum equity, if flip scum then you lynch RC next, skitter is p much conftown at that point

if RC also flips scum, lynch flopz, call gg, pat shoulders

If shos is NOT scum, then i don't have a fucking clue
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Post Post #5285 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:20 am

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In post 5284, Iconeum wrote:guys i'm struck by a concussion

if you need anything from me i'll try to keep up

Why don't you continue arguing about who's actually a game-solving lynch here

my suggestion still stands at shos

high scum equity, if flip scum then you lynch RC next, skitter is p much conftown at that point

if RC also flips scum, lynch flopz, call gg, pat shoulders

If shos is NOT scum, then i don't have a fucking clue
Damn now we need to clone Ico for Ico’s RL

Get better buddy.

I kinda agree on RC so we should probably start there.

I just don’t see shos atm enough to put him first.

RC will make the game toxic too much if shos is first.
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Post Post #5286 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:20 am

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In post 5275, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5271, Aristophanes wrote:I mean, I have to look back at that again because some details get fuzzy in a game of this size and pace. He has uber-denied saying aome things he definitely said, like that we have his permission to BoP Lynch him if we get 2 mislynches led by himself with no scum flips. But none of it was malicious.

Him flipping out is hard to head because you never know what will set him off.

And he didn't believe the clear so I don't think voting him for that is reasonable at this time. If he continues to vote you, that is a different story. He would have to abandon his Ico Townread and volley for the lynching of either Doc or their Clear which, well I could still see so we'll find out what happens there I guess.
I am sorry but assaulting someone’s win rate and insulting the play of someone who could be inno is malicious. Making jokes about my sex life and what I do or do not do is malicious.

Him flipping out I think can be read it’s just harder. And even if he is town I told him he needed to work together and ultimately he won’t (more likely) or can’t (even worse).
Sorry, I meant malicious as in scummy.

Personal attacks are never okay and I absolutely did not mean to discount them.

I hate that a lot of the struggles this game are because of personal differences and wish there were a way around that without lynching the parties people don't get along with. :(
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Post Post #5287 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:21 am

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In post 5284, Iconeum wrote:guys i'm struck by a concussion
:( :(

IIRC they recommend limiting screen time so please take a V/la for a few days to get better
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Post Post #5288 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:25 am

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In post 5276, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5273, Aristophanes wrote:Also I'm still pretty unlikely to vote RC here so I'd suggest putting your efforts into convincing the other half of the playerlist.

If they're going to be here.
Why are you unlikely to vote RC?
Please answer Ari :)
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Post Post #5289 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:35 am

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Bro I'm not the one "dissolving town unity" when Mathblade has attempted to lead lynches on myself skit and Ari and at the height of the Shos wagon was hard defending him and trying to set me up as the lynch instead.

I also haven't personally attacked Mathblade. He is trash at mafia, that's not personal that's merely a statement of fact.
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Post Post #5290 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:39 am

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Math is the one repeatedly vanity wagoning townies for reasons that don't make an ounce of sense. I am trying to play the game but I simply can't just sit there while Math makes every post about how obvscum me and Skitter /whoever else I'm townreading are?

It's not how my brain is wired.

If you think flipping me will make things easier go ahead but scum won't make another nightkill on Mathblade and his reads won't get any better and then it will be up to y'all to shut him down and not me, so have fun with that.
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Post Post #5291 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:41 am

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You say that I'm the one disrupting town unity

But if Math wasn't here shitpushing town after town then I wouldn't have to be attempting to play around them.

The only difference between me and you guys is that you aren't willing to tell him to fuck off and stop pushing town.
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Post Post #5292 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:44 am

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And, uh, I took Ico saying they would revisit their math read as not an inno. Which I think anyone else would as well. And I played around that, so.
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Post Post #5293 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:00 am

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In post 5290, RadiantCowbells wrote:Math is the one repeatedly vanity wagoning townies for reasons that don't make an ounce of sense. I am trying to play the game but I simply can't just sit there while Math makes every post about how obvscum me and Skitter /whoever else I'm townreading are?

It's not how my brain is wired.

If you think flipping me will make things easier go ahead but scum won't make another nightkill on Mathblade and his reads won't get any better and then it will be up to y'all to shut him down and not me, so have fun with that.
A> You townread everyone but Shos and Saud....that’s too many town
B> You’ve been proven wrong on your reads.
C> You’re actively lying in that post and have crossed into personal insults as many players have told you.
D> Okay then...they don’t try to kill me. If you flip town I already said my reads are weaker

You are the lynch today so the game can return to readability.
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Post Post #5294 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:01 am

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In post 5292, RadiantCowbells wrote:And, uh, I took Ico saying they would revisit their math read as not an inno. Which I think anyone else would as well. And I played around that, so.
No. That was just Ico trying to get you lynched. That’s how I took it.
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Post Post #5295 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:03 am

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In post 5289, RadiantCowbells wrote:Bro I'm not the one "dissolving town unity" when Mathblade has attempted to lead lynches on myself skit and Ari and at the height of the Shos wagon was hard defending him and trying to set me up as the lynch instead.

I also haven't personally attacked Mathblade. He is trash at mafia, that's not personal that's merely a statement of fact.
I did not hard defend him. I just didn’t see the merits of a lurker lynch when it didn’t match the gamestate.

I still have him as possible scum and was considering it when you dissolved the wagon.

Tell us who do you think scum is?
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Post Post #5296 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:09 am

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In post 5250, implosion wrote:
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Vote Count 2.10
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(3): skitter30, Aristophanes, Iconeum
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Not voting (3): Bellaphant, Xtoxm, teacher

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Deadline is set to 4 PM PST on January 31st, in (expired on 2020-01-31 20:00:00).
Please lynch RC everyone. I am begging here. I have work.
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Post Post #5297 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:25 am

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In post 5288, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5276, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5273, Aristophanes wrote:Also I'm still pretty unlikely to vote RC here so I'd suggest putting your efforts into convincing the other half of the playerlist.

If they're going to be here.
Why are you unlikely to vote RC?
Please answer Ari :)
Whoops, missed that.

Because I still read him town tbh.
Sorry :P
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Post Post #5298 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:26 am

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In post 5297, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 5288, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5276, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5273, Aristophanes wrote:Also I'm still pretty unlikely to vote RC here so I'd suggest putting your efforts into convincing the other half of the playerlist.

If they're going to be here.
Why are you unlikely to vote RC?
Please answer Ari :)
Whoops, missed that.

Because I still read him town tbh.
Sorry :P
Again why?

I think you’re fundamentally wrong somewhere if you’re town and I want to find out why.
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Post Post #5299 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:29 am

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Or... you're just fundamentally wrong on everything and Ari isn't?
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