Mini Normal 2114: Game Over

[Ankamius]

I hope you have a better opinion of my scumgame than to actually believe that I'd do virtually nothing but that when replacing in

when I have the advantage of a playerlist that almost entirely has no idea what the difference between my towngame and scumgame is, and a gamestate where it's entirely possible to just wrest control over and brute force a phase shift away from my scumpartners being the main targets

[Flavor Leaf]

yes my plan when replacing in was to hard townread both of my scumpartners for no reason

Why do you say that like it’s a bad thing? That’s a very good scum move. I like using that tactic a lot, actually.

People think these “poor scum plays” are bad, but they’ve been so ingrained in people that those plays are much stronger scum players than people think. There’s a reason some players don’t think I have a strong scum game, and that’s fine.

Those are the same players I beat every single time when I’m scum.

Mastina’s probably my biggest detractor, and I find her one of the easiest people to play scum against on site right now because of it. I literally was able to get her to claim that I was town fake claiming a guilty on another townie, when I was scum guiltying a scum, and setup Mastina mislynch, which I do essentially every scum game against her.

It’s why she always town reads me when I’m scum and scum reads me when I’m town.

[Flavor Leaf]

I hope you have a better opinion of my scumgame than to actually believe that I'd do virtually nothing but that when replacing in

when I have the advantage of a playerlist that almost entirely has no idea what the difference between my towngame and scumgame is, and a gamestate where it's entirely possible to just wrest control over and brute force a phase shift away from my scumpartners being the main targets

I actually think that because I’m scum reading you, that you’re town, if that makes sense, and I am aware of that.

I am scum reading you, but I think you’re town. That’s why I want Invisibility today, and haven’t pushed your lynch at all.

[Ankamius]

Are you seeing why I don't think your posting is town yet

[Flavor Leaf]

I am a giant team scum player, and it’s not like I don’t know Nomnom.

@Ank - do you agree that I had control over the game as soon as I started posting more? If so, in what world do I, in control of the game, single handedly defend Gjt lynch, and move it on over to a Scum JOAT in somebody I know decently well in Nomnom?

I dont understand how I can be at all scum read here, tbh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Are you seeing why I don't think your posting is town yet

No. I think I’m completely obviously town

[Ankamius]

You're doing all the same shit I've seen you do last time you were scum

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m anti bus.

You can look at who I’ve bussed in the past year.

Avengers mega hydra in Pokémon, was going down anyways, i hopped on.
Vorkuta in ramblings, was going down anyways I hopped on.
Jjh in anime upick, we were actively fighting and arguing in our scum pt, we don’t really get along too well.

I don’t bus unnecessarily. When I’m scum, I play as a team. I have to. The longer the game goes, the more likely I get killed.

I am a strong early-mid game scum player. I am a super strong late game town player.

I go for Perfect scum wins, usually.

[Flavor Leaf]

You're doing all the same shit I've seen you do last time you were scum

This is a flat out lie. I have never pushed a scum buddy Day 1 like that.

Never.

Look at every single one of my scum games from last year.


Not a single one of my buddies died Day 1 except for in Everything Is Completely Normal.

That was a defeat of mine, and I claimed Masons with my buddy that died to try and protect them.

[Flavor Leaf]

What experience do you have with my town game? I don’t think we actually have that much experience with each other. I can’t think of a scum game I’ve seen you in.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am the biggest Anti-bus player on this site, and the only reason I bussed at all last year is because I won too many games and people were catching on that I never pushed buddies, so you’d have to actively be think I’m breaking my scum meta.

Also, this game is entirely different than any other game I’ve played in a long ass time.

Look at my start.

I am town, if you are town, see that, and see that soon. Because my scum game will not be what defines me anymore. I know I’m a stronger town player than I am a scum player, and there’s plenty of games that prove that, and this is going to be one of them.

[Flavor Leaf]

I hope you have a better opinion of my scumgame than to actually believe that I'd do virtually nothing but that when replacing in

when I have the advantage of a playerlist that almost entirely has no idea what the difference between my towngame and scumgame is, and a gamestate where it's entirely possible to just wrest control over and brute force a phase shift away from my scumpartners being the main targets

People can’t brute their way past me. It’s why I don’t get along with players like RC, Robb, and RB. I naturally just shot that kind of thing down.

[Flavor Leaf]

Are you seeing why I don't think your posting is town yet

Also, let’s talk about this.

My posting just is town. Idc if it looks like it, I’m not worried about that. I actively treat every game as a separate thing. Different players require different types of interactions towards them. I actually don’t know this entire playerlist that well. You’re the player I am most familiar with and I can’t even say I’m that familiar with you as a player.

This being said, that means there is a lack of meta on me here, so why do I go against my Never Bus meta in that sense?

Also! Nicholai and I were essentially a town block. That’s just a bad kill. Sure, I make strange kills sometimes, but I don’t make bad kills.

[Ankamius]

Why are you posturing so much based off my posts?

[Flavor Leaf]

That was a damn good Day 1 town performance by me, so I’m gonna make sure that’s seen

[Flavor Leaf]

Why are you posturing so much based off my posts?

BECAUSE THATS WHAT I DO AS TOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

[Ankamius]

You’re the player I am most familiar with and I can’t even say I’m that familiar with you as a player.

Ok

Then I hope that you know why I find that even more weird with your bizarre stance on me since I joined the game and that you keep changing it based on how I'm acting towards you

[Ankamius]

I'm ngl FL

it didn't click until this game, but if you're scum then I'm pretty certain I've figured out how to read you

[Flavor Leaf]

You’re the player I am most familiar with and I can’t even say I’m that familiar with you as a player.

Ok

Then I hope that you know why I find that even more weird with your bizarre stance on me since I joined the game and that you keep changing it based on how I'm acting towards you

I don’t base my reads off meta. I use it as complimentary. I read people’s potential agendas, and paint thousands of pictures and see which one looks correct. Then I dive deep into that picture, and I go forward like I’m correct, knowing I might not be, and when things start not to add up, I look into why, and usually that makes me reevaluate.

You are still ignoring multiple of my questions, like what purpose does me as a Hate Bus strong team scum player, ever force a lynch on ScumJOAT Nom on Day 1?

Like what scum purpose does that have? My scum game relies on gamestate control, something that doesn’t work unless partners are doing stuff.

[Looker]

do not like

town

full claiming unless they have to

This is where you are misreading

Yoooooo, you aren't suspicious about Fuzzy (i mean i know you're voting but you haven't mentioned this little tidbit) that they just spoke in a definite?

VOTE: joges Do you think that bob3141 is town?

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I don't remember anyone doing anything D1 singlehandedly.

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@bob3141

: Do you believe that joges is town?

Spoiler:

(2) invisibility

- flavor leaf, thefuzzylogic99

(1) joges

- looker

(1) flavor leaf

- gjt

not voting (7) - invisibility, ankamius, SausasaurusRex, kanna, joges, bob3141, non lmh

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

[Ankamius]

I don’t base my reads off meta. I use it as complimentary. I read people’s potential agendas, and paint thousands of pictures and see which one looks correct. Then I dive deep into that picture, and I go forward like I’m correct, knowing I might not be, and when things start not to add up, I look into why, and usually that makes me reevaluate.

You are still ignoring multiple of my questions, like what purpose does me as a Hate Bus strong team scum player, ever force a lynch on ScumJOAT Nom on Day 1?

Like what scum purpose does that have? My scum game relies on gamestate control, something that doesn’t work unless partners are doing stuff.

do you understand what I'm getting at?

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm ngl FL

it didn't click until this game, but if you're scum then I'm pretty certain I've figured out how to read you

Well, I’m town here.

Give me your thoughts on you thinking I bussed NomNom then.

I want you to say it. If only for post game stuff

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t base my reads off meta. I use it as complimentary. I read people’s potential agendas, and paint thousands of pictures and see which one looks correct. Then I dive deep into that picture, and I go forward like I’m correct, knowing I might not be, and when things start not to add up, I look into why, and usually that makes me reevaluate.

You are still ignoring multiple of my questions, like what purpose does me as a Hate Bus strong team scum player, ever force a lynch on ScumJOAT Nom on Day 1?

Like what scum purpose does that have? My scum game relies on gamestate control, something that doesn’t work unless partners are doing stuff.

do you understand what I'm getting at?

Not at all.

I am completely perplexed with you at the moment. What purpose do I have in bussing a ScumJOAT?

[Ankamius]

I really don't think you bussing or not actually matters in the grand scheme of things

when you place so much emphasis on the fact that you bussed a mafia PR, that really makes me wonder how town indicative it really is

:thonk:

[Flavor Leaf]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11471064

Also, look what I did here start of Day 2.

I also caught 2 scum later in that same day phase, alongside correctly reading that both Maria and Myself, the main 2 wagons that day, were both town, and scum killed me that night.