Micro 914: CultD3 (Over)

[ObviousScum]

Posted what?

[Kerset]

Vote Count 1.09

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Bingle

(3): Farkran, Poyzin, Not A Korina Alt,

Poyzin

(2): shos, Kanna,

Kanna

(2): Bingle, Blatant Scum,

Farkran

(1): ObviousScum,

shos

(0):

Blatant Scum

(0):

ObviousScum

(0):

Hectic

(0):

Not A Korina Alt

(0):

Not Voting

(1): Hectic,

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Spoiler: Votes since last votecount not reflected above

ObviousScum.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-24 12:00:00).

Mod notes:

Not A Korina Alt has v/la on weekends
Less then 24 hours left. Lynches are COMPULSIVE, which means that after (expired on 2020-01-24 12:00:00) person with the highest number of votes will be lynched, even if majority is not achieved.

[Blatant Scum]

@Shos, you're also on me tonight.

NO WAY!
You will get culted if shos is town!

[Hectic]

I'll wait for Bengle to return to see what he has to say, but I'll be around to hammer for the next few hours.

[Hectic]

If sh0s is actually FN, he should be targeting who he townreads most OUTSIDE of NKorina (for obvious reasons).

[Blatant Scum]

I believe that shos' biggest townread is shos.

[Poyzin]

I only had BS’s vote when I claimed. I was at freaking L-4.

Korina I wasn’t even looking for crumbs. I didn’t know you were even crumbing until you said you were. I figured the tracker might have but I couldn’t care less who the tracker was at that time because I hoped they would claim when I did.

[ObviousScum]

why is that better tho?

[Poyzin]

Korina. I understand you think your best chances are to win with cult, but really the optimal play for you is trying to lynch the CL today. Stop playing anti-town. The chances that Poyzin found out your crumb are very low and you know it - besides, point 3 is just grasping because the chances of a lurker being the correct counterclaim to poyzin were only 2/8. Anyone else would have counterclaimed poyzin immediately.

Literally this 100%. I don’t know why everybody is giving my claim and sh0s’s counterclaim the same weight. I’d like to be fair to sh0s, but I’m not. It’s good to consider the possibility that I could be the cultist and sh0s is actually the FN, but it’s just that. A possibility.

[Poyzin]

If sh0s is actually FN, he should be targeting who he townreads most OUTSIDE of NKorina (for obvious reasons).

If somebody says that they got a message from sh0s, I want you to lynch me. When I flip town rolestopper (because in this world we are assuming Korina gets culted because I’m supposedly a cultist to begin with), I want you to lynch whoever said they got sh0s’s message.

[Blatant Scum]

VOTE: shos

[Farkran]

It's 11 hours to deadline. Any vote not aimed at lynching the CL is wasted, otherwise please enlighten me on why 736 is wrong.

Up to you to vote your highest CL candidate, but Korina can't be CL and Shos is the least likely to be CL among the others.

[Farkran]

The problem with games with cult as the only scum faction is that so many people will play for cult win condition even when they aren't cult.

The setup should probably be adjusted with the addition of a SK in Micro, and/or a mafia faction in larger games. Some calculations, simulations etc should be run before getting to a proper setup, but i think it's fairly evident that even if the setup is balanced in a vacuum, it's wrong that so many people are trying to break it by playing against their current wincon.

[Hectic]

What's up with that sh0s vote, Bla?

Don't lynch shos nor poy today.

Thought you agreed earlier.

[Blatant Scum]

It's 11 hours to deadline. Any vote not aimed at lynching the CL is wasted, otherwise please enlighten me on why 736 is wrong.

Up to you to vote your highest CL candidate, but Korina can't be CL and Shos is the least likely to be CL among the others.

Bingle (with shos) focused on pushing Kanna instead of some easier target (me for example) -> shos is not cultist + Bingle CL (1)
Shos could hammer Bingle -> shos is not cultist + Bingle town (2)
(1)+(2) shos is not cultist (3)
Poy is very likely town because of that claim -> shos is cultist or CL (4)
(3)+(4) shos is CL.

[Blatant Scum]

What's up with that sh0s vote, Bla?

Don't lynch shos nor poy today.

Thought you agreed earlier.

Noone presented me (4) back then. I fully agree with (4).

[ObviousScum]

Your theory is CL ccs for derp wifom when they can hammer?

[ObviousScum]

Altho maybe shos didn't know vc I guess lol

[Blatant Scum]

VOTE: Kanna

[Bingle]

It doesn't matter to me because I wanna lynch one of {shos, poyzin} today.

No.

[Bingle]

Ok, I’m just gonna be honest here; bullet points cause I’m tired.

>I think it’s Bingle/Farkran; Farkran is CL, Bingle is cultist
>Bingle’s “gambit” was probably to make a fake case and push whoever who bit, what he didn’t account for imo is he needed to have confidence shos is town BEFORE pulling the gambit and I’m not sure why he would be confident unless he was cult
>shos is scummy but if I’m right, Bingle tmi’d him as town
>Rn, bingle knows there’s a high chance he’s going down so he’s pushing Farkran
>notice how bingle tried to tie me to Farkran by saying if I flip scum, it’s Farkran? I’m not flipping scum so if you decide to lynch me, it’s supposed to look good for Farkran
>Farkran’s latest combos don’t make sense but I think the main takeaway is just to link me and bingle for if he flips scum (I think he will)

Furthermore, I do think I didn’t really deserve a TR early on in the game, mainly because I didn’t really do that much, so Farkran’s early TR on me felt weird, almost appeasement because I wasn’t TRing them. Farkran has been my secret SR all along.

Also now that we know Poyzin is town, that push on him by Farkran was bad imo; I still have no idea why he tunnelled him apart from inactivity and it seemed easy.

Bingle thinks shos’ reaction to the gambit was towny. Thus, Bingle knew shos was town.


Why the fuck aren’t we lynching this?

[ObviousScum]

What post did ur gambit start in again?

[Bingle]

Poyzin on kori, kori on shos, shos on neither of the above.

Massclaim results tomorrow. You should be able to work out the implications without me.

[Farkran]

It's 11 hours to deadline. Any vote not aimed at lynching the CL is wasted, otherwise please enlighten me on why 736 is wrong.

Up to you to vote your highest CL candidate, but Korina can't be CL and Shos is the least likely to be CL among the others.

Bingle (with shos) focused on pushing Kanna instead of some easier target (me for example) -> shos is not cultist + Bingle CL (1)
Shos could hammer Bingle -> shos is not cultist + Bingle town (2)
(1)+(2) shos is not cultist (3)
Poy is very likely town because of that claim -> shos is cultist or CL (4)
(3)+(4) shos is CL.

1) Bingle was pushing poyzin, makes sense that cult!shos aligned with bingle pushes elsewhere. Poyzin never reached L-1, no quickhammers to make for cultist!shos.
2) Only true if shos is town, doesn't necessarily mean Bingle is also town - besides, cultist!shos does not hammer CL!bingle either
3) Wrong premise, wrong conclusion
4) if shos is cultist, the chances he does not hammer town!bingle are veeeeery little

1+2+3+4 = shos is likely cultist, never CL - the only two cases where bingle is not CL are A. shos is town, poyzin is lying, etc; B. cultist!shos is fooling around with the town. Both these have little chance to be true.

[Bingle]

353 I think. Mobile with no WiFi, so that’s all she wrote.