Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[MathBlade]

hey i'm around for an hour or so, if anyone wants to talk
i'm reading through now

You should really catch up.

Before you start what are your scum reads?

I wanna see if/how they change.

[teacher]

I’m doing about the same skit

[MathBlade]

glgl I'm going to force myself not to post unless someone has a question for me wish me luck

....checks next four posts.

Hey teacher

What do you make of the day’s developments?

So broad I know XD

[MathBlade]

I’m doing about the same skit

??? Confused explain this post please

[teacher]

Honestly I glossed over them. You’re a functional clear for me. RC I have a really hard time on. Like he’s flopped all over the place (see, eg, me, ari, skit) and is flopping some more (while mocking you for having your reads based on who is sucking up to you, he had been doing the same with Ari/skit) and has mixed a hell of a lot of eta in too. But I can also see quite a lot of town motivation in his play too. I think getting rid of him makes the thread more readable and manageable, but still may not be the optimal play. He’s also right that if we lynch green!shos today that he is the lynch tomorrow.

I have to go back to do my shos reread. I think I’m going to end up with an RC preference, but there’s a hell of a lot of time left in the day and it might be worthwhile to wagon (and perhaps wagon into lynch) xtomx to see what develops.

If there were more specific decelopmebts/claims, I lost them in the mobile read and so will have to refind.

[skitter30]

hey i'm around for an hour or so, if anyone wants to talk
i'm reading through now

You should really catch up.

Before you start what are your scum reads?

I wanna see if/how they change.

i've been skimming, but i'm having trouble keeping up and engaging as much as i like ... i don't play in larges for a reason and i literally can't be here as often as this game demands and/or catch up as i usually do in other games every night without it starting to mess with other parts of my life

shos, flopz, saudade too
and still a few other people in the null pile that i don't have a good read on

[teacher]

I’m doing about the same skit

??? Confused explain this post please

On for an hour available to chat and reading up. I was responding to the 73rd post on the last page, made at 1016.

[skitter30]

math do u want to talk about why your'e scumreading me?

rc, hi, i know that you have a lot you want to talk to me about

[skitter30]

or @math can you at least direct me to posts that you want me to respond to?

[skitter30]

teacher i'm not sure that any of the things you've listed about rc are scum indicative here tbh

[RadiantCowbells]

Hi Skitter

Can you be here in half an hour I'm running an errand

[skitter30]

i can be here till ~10:30 est but then i gotta bounce, i have to be at work an hour and half early tomorrow, fml

[teacher]

@skit, I agree. That wasn’t me trying to acumcase him, that was me explaining why I’m not dead set on his lynch if you want me to give the scum reasons, I can do that too.

[MathBlade]

hey i'm around for an hour or so, if anyone wants to talk
i'm reading through now

You should really catch up.

Before you start what are your scum reads?

I wanna see if/how they change.

i've been skimming, but i'm having trouble keeping up and engaging as much as i like ... i don't play in larges for a reason and i literally can't be here as often as this game demands and/or catch up as i usually do in other games every night without it starting to mess with other parts of my life

shos, flopz, saudade too
and still a few other people in the null pile that i don't have a good read on

math do u want to talk about why your'e scumreading me?

rc, hi, i know that you have a lot you want to talk to me about

What do you think about me and Ico?

For fucks sake no one Garcia please

[skitter30]

i mean unless this is an elaborate scum gambit just town

[skitter30]

@skit, I agree. That wasn’t me trying to acumcase him, that was me explaining why I’m not dead set on his lynch if you want me to give the scum reasons, I can do that too.

ya i'd like to hear that plz

[MathBlade]

i mean unless this is an elaborate scum gambit just town

And where did you leave off on your catchup?

[skitter30]

i'm about a page after the last time i was here, which was last night

i skimmed during the day so i have a general sense of what's going on and know that you want to talk to me, but i haven't read it in depth

[MathBlade]

i'm about a page after the last time i was here, which was last night

i skimmed during the day so i have a general sense of what's going on and know that you want to talk to me, but i haven't read it in depth

Then why did I change to lock town from when you were scumreading before?

That inno wasn’t til the middle of today.

[Aristophanes]

Catching up.

I almost want to lynch Saudade so he will shut up!
And that''s saying something in a game this size.

[Aristophanes]

Ari isn't scum. Skitter<->Saudade makes a lot of sense.

Then why am I shot over you?

Either I am right on my Skitter read now or Ari is scum.

Otherwise I agree. Ari and Skitter both cannot be town without Ico having planned this as a gambit which seems so implausible as to discredit the notion unless Lylo.

I still say I wouldn't have shot you, Math.

[skitter30]

i think he's kinda easy to read when he gets into a semi-serious phase and i kinda don't want to dismantle the shos wagon and i sr math more

but part of the math read was kinda like ~teamreading him with ico~ but if he thought ico protected him and thought ico was signaling him to that effect that probably explains some of the weirdness there
and that would be a weird thing to do as partners, i think

i'm a little scared that if i unvote shos we'll have let him get off for the team catchup thing and that rebuilding that will be devilishly hard
like i'm not sure how it just kinda collapsed ?

Specifically this one here.

Skitter says they scumread me more after the protective claim but is acting like they want Shos more. This is very odd. She didn’t go into why and shaded her own thoughts just a bit later.

It’s reaaaaally bad.

you realize that:
- i indicated that that if the protective thing was real it explained some of the weird ico/math things i'd been seeing
- so while i had scumread you at the time i acknowledged that if ico had actually protected you it would change matters significantly
- this post came before ico confirmed the protection
- i still scumread shos
- i explained why i didn't want to unvote him
- i had also around there indicated that although i had wanted to wagon you i literally didn't have the energy for it ...
- not sure why your'e shading me for that

[skitter30]

i think saudade's tone has devolved into resembling that of his scumgame, i'd be intersted in wagoning there i think

[teacher]

@skit, I agree. That wasn’t me trying to acumcase him, that was me explaining why I’m not dead set on his lynch if you want me to give the scum reasons, I can do that too.

ya i'd like to hear that plz

It’ll prob be after you sign off because I was just mobile checking in now, but:

A. Lack of PR!Rc death
B. Lack of vig or other balance for detective
C. Pirouetting like a top on too many reads
D. Pushing the future clear, after picking up crumbs
E. Making thread unreadable
F. Heavy ate
G. Lack of town cohesion- despite the remarkable level of mutual townreads, town hasn’t been able to work together, and I think RC is the cause of that, as he has blown up multiple wagons he built/pushed/supported (flopz,Ari,shos). Note that this is different than thread unread ability.
H. BoP on Duck and math.

That’s a quick and dirty, but I can come up with a scum narrative fairly well. Part of it is how tomorrow plays in any world: if there is a green flip he is likely the lynch, and so I’m wondering if it’s better to have his flip now to make tomorrow have a better chance of cohesion and solving fegardless of the color he does flip.

[skitter30]

She shaded her own wagon by calling me toxic when I haven’t been except for the poor word choice which I apologized for.

???