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[Flavor Leaf]

ultra tunneled by Volpe and that destabilized me, I just feel completely lost

This is relatable

[panthaleon]

Imagine being obv town unironically

Also DV for serious the fuck are you doing? You're usually better than this.

I don’t really understand.

I’m having fun with the game and my role, sure. But I have a scumread on nom, I’ve explained reasons for my scumread. And I am pushing it.

What more do you expect from me?

I dunno I'm trying to get a read on you and you feel off. Your tone feels inconsistent

[Almost50]

@kuribo: So you want to vote DV or DEB? I know you're votelss (obviously) but you can still type Vote: X in bod (or use the tags). It won't count, but I can quote it and vote there, so effectively it'd be your vote and I'd be the voteless one.

[Gammagooey]

I think I'd prefer nom to be the lynch today over just about anyone else now.

I skimmed through a few of her old games and I feel like she's pretty capable of having townreads that she could explain or at least that people could follow from them, and it feels like she's constantly attacking people instead of trying to seriously evaluate whether they're scum or not

I don't think her townreads have any substance behind them and she's definitely not treating Maria like a townread even though she just said she likes her:

Spoiler: nom's recent posts about Maria

I need to learn to read.

I don't believe in coincidences, this makes Maria look pretty bad.

kuribo you can't deny the possibility that this coincidence could also not be a coincidence.

How did Maria introduce the idea to all of you?

You're acting like I am blaming you for something when I'm questioning Maria's side of things in all this, which is odd and doesn't inspire me confidence in your slot.

You're acting like I am blaming you for something when I'm questioning Maria's side of things in all this, which is odd and doesn't inspire me confidence in your slot.

You're coming across like you're blaming me, or pant, or Maria, or whoever is convenient for something we'd have no prior knowledge of. "Maybe this makes pant look extremely bad" "oh no wait now maria looks bad."

It's not blame. It's just sanely questioning that the target just so happened to be in an invest hood. Anyone with 2 braincells would look at this and say "odd". I don't know.

can you repeat the question?

What are your thoughts on dave and who are your townreads & why?

Honestly I have none.

I honestly don't have many townreads which should be concerning but I like Maria, A50, Kuribo, EP.

The big fight she had day 1 that I liked she said was NAI here and she's said in a previous game that she tends to hyperpost as scum which are minor points against her too, but really I just don't believe that her attempts to read people and explain her townreads would feel this empty if she was actually town.

Spoiler: NAI nom fight quote

Yeah we get it, you're town, now can you play the game[/size]

I get letting her pass up but this isn't some kind of lock town tell or anything so back off on that

up to vote elems now?

I was thinking elems is a best lynch anyway

I really don't care at this point, sorting nom will be a task I'll put off for later in this game. Unfortunately I think this is really town indicative.

I'm not going to lock town this, it's just I really don't want to consider nom doing this as scum right now.

Unfortunately?

Also I've done this as scum too. NAI.

[davesaz]

Whoa that's been a lot of woe.

[Flavor Leaf]

Drinks on me.

[EspressoPatronum]

We should complete the mass claim before we end the day.

[Ankamius]

The thing with DEB, kind of the same way to read flippyNips, late game when there’s less activity and posts, and they make a post, they can come off as incredibly obv town, and that’s something I don’t think happens when they’re scum ever.

Ank, why did you think the DEB wagon was all town?

it was an assumption

[Ankamius]

yes complete the massclaim before ending

[nomnomnom]

whatever, I can't stop it, might as well stop playing mafia after this, what a colossal failure.

[nomnomnom]

People are going to lynch me on the worst possible time and give FB a venge shot which might seal the game completely. Whatever. I don't know what's going on these last games but just because I'm not giving ultra certain reads I'm getting wagonned. It was the same in PYP. Whatever.

[nomnomnom]

People are going to blame it on me at the end too I know it lol

[Flavor Leaf]

People are going to blame it on me at the end too I know it lol

No, they’re gonna blame it on me if we lose, and they’ll ignore me if we win even if i catch scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m totally not in this game right now again, sorry.

Like, don’t get me wrong, when all’s said and done, no matter what happens, I think this was a cool game design and setup wise, and play wise, we just have to get through specific parts of it.

I am completely ambivalent on Nomnom/FB, which is insane to me because I’ve wanted the slots for so long.

I don’t feel scum are doing anything still.

What scum players on this player list just coast through the game hoping for a mislynch to be settled? I think that’s the next route I’m going to analyze. This has been too much mechanics talk for me, not enough day play orientated.

I miss Volpe and I 1v1ing

[nomnomnom]

Nah it was shit and completely sidetracked the game at really important moments too.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nah, hindsight Volpe vs FL was super important.

Especially because Fakran flipped town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Because that’s where the game was at prior. I had also pushed Chenn before.

[nomnomnom]

I guess so
I"m a bit burned out of this game honestly

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s because we’re losing, and we don’t have enough information to really figure out why.

[Flavor Leaf]

Besides WIFOM cases

[Dr Easy Bake]

I hate the whole poke me defeated tone from nomnom, I’ve tried that as scum before, it rarely works. Sympathy isn’t an emotion that should be used to sway votes.

[Dr Easy Bake]

Poor me*

[kuribo]

@kuribo: So you want to vote DV or DEB? I know you're votelss (obviously) but you can still type Vote: X in bod (or use the tags). It won't count, but I can quote it and vote there, so effectively it'd be your vote and I'd be the voteless one.

It's the weekend, so I'm double shifts as usual but

Vote: DeasVail

DEB's posting has mostly been fine the last few pages and if they're both scum, I see DV as a way way bigger threat at endgame.

[kuribo]

What were my responses to the wagon against me? I wasn’t even aware that there was a wagon.

That's fair, wagon is way too strong a word for what's essentially a voteless man pushing back against a guy who has a baseless read on him.


Now let me tell you something you might not know since you haven't played with me in so long:

Do you know one of my super secret scum hunting methods? Sit close because I very rarely reveal this one:


I wait for them to accuse me. Oh, you might say that's OMGUS, but Lemme tell you, I've caught dozens of scum for using the same soft-accusation techniques you're using. I've strung up entire teams because they tried to throw subtle shade on me. It's then that I step back, I pay closer attention. I watch every movement, watch for the slightest manipulation. Things I wouldn't notice if they hadn't tried to call me out.


It's the mislynches, you see. I haven't been mislynched in EIGHT YEARS. Scum teams just can't help trying to make a name for themselves. Make the game fun because they know I'm hard to lynch. GreyICE and curiouskarmadog are the only people in my twelve years here to get me lynched as town. Scum don't like to NK me if they can help it because y'all know I tend to derail games by arguing with idiots. My fury leaves towns decimated with the scorch and ruin of the other town players that cross me. And as long as that anger stays directed at town, y'all keep me alive.

But you can't do that forever, you need to line up an endgame, don't you? So you have to throw shade here and there, say things like "oh it's fake rage" or "oh my team thinks he's scum." Maybe by endgame someone will be sick of me and vote with you, and you won't have to NK me. Maybe you can save it for some PR with a good claim.

But that's not going to happen. You're not going to get me mislynched. NOBODY fucking gets me mislynched. Eight years since scum has successfully pushed wagon on me. There will be no glory for you or your scumteam this day, DV.

This is a pattern I've seen more times than I can count in my years on this site. I wanted you to be town! I offered you brotherhood and you slapped it away to try and taste the impossible. For that, DV, I will gladly hang your head on my mantle of fallen scum.

[EspressoPatronum]

We should complete the mass claim before we end the day.

yes complete the massclaim before ending

Correct me if I'm wrong, but here is the information we still need:
- LMS of the Composers (Dave/DV)
- Flavour name of Gamma/DEB's
- LMS of Gamma/DEB
- Flavour name of kuribo/MariaR/Panth
- LMS of kuribo/MariaR/Panth