In post 6214, RCEnigma wrote:This is even worse than the saudade wagon lol. When I flip no one gets to argue RC as town. Not even a little bit. You guys don't get to Lynch TW by feeding into his bullshit then me for feeding into his bullshit and still consider a world that RC is town.
I agree.
This wagon is more telling of RC than Saud though as this seems more SvT and Saud v RC feels SvS or TVT
This game is blowing my mind and I think it's mostly off poor dayplay by town.
But on my flip keep my skitter read in mind. Ico should be self resolvable but keep RC/Ico as a possibility.
I will absolutely agree that, from D2 onwards, I think that RCEnigma's argument that he's "trying to sort Xtoxm" holds water.
The problem is it doesn't at all align with his treatment of Xtoxm on D1.
He also claims that he gave up wagoning it even though he kept bringing it up over and over again right up to end of day
One of the pushes on him did read like it could reasonably be a sorting wagon, but both his placement at bottom of readslist and treatment outside of that strongly indicates legitimate scumread
and i think that if he were town at least some reference to that meta would exist in the game. it's not something you entirely ignore.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
It is a 180 - you’re pairing him with shos whose wagon you derailed by calling town. I agree you haven’t been strong on RC but it’s a sudden flip/reversal of the shiny new target and I’m just about done with it. It is once again pushing at cohesion. It’s not that what you say doesn’t have validity - it does - but it’s once again shifting wagons and changing pushes and I’m surprised you’d portray it as anything other than that when you’re also basically saying the last five pages have solved/ended the game. If the latter is true, it’s a reversal from what came before those pages.
In post 6214, RCEnigma wrote:This is even worse than the saudade wagon lol. When I flip no one gets to argue RC as town. Not even a little bit. You guys don't get to Lynch TW by feeding into his bullshit then me for feeding into his bullshit and still consider a world that RC is town.
I agree.
This wagon is more telling of RC than Saud though as this seems more SvT and Saud v RC feels SvS or TVT
This game is blowing my mind and I think it's mostly off poor dayplay by town.
But on my flip keep my skitter read in mind. Ico should be self resolvable but keep RC/Ico as a possibility.
How come every time I disagree with someone I am dumb or making a bad play?
It gets exhausting and only makes me double down on my opinion of where I was.
I kinda am fed up with RC hopping wagons and would gladly vote him too.
Mainly I think one of these two hits paydirt and I don’t care which but Saud is almost certainly town
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 6227, teacher wrote:It is a 180 - you’re pairing him with shos whose wagon you derailed by calling town. I agree you haven’t been strong on RC but it’s a sudden flip/reversal of the shiny new target and I’m just about done with it. It is once again pushing at cohesion. It’s not that what you say doesn’t have validity - it does - but it’s once again shifting wagons and changing pushes and I’m surprised you’d portray it as anything other than that when you’re also basically saying the last five pages have solved/ended the game. If the latter is true, it’s a reversal from what came before those pages.
Ok.
Can you actually go back and follow my overall progression on Shos because I think it's clear that I was still considering him as scum, just a lower equity scum lynch?
I can see why you would think that in terms of a -thread direction- point of view and I myself am still not keen on voting for RCE because Tris to me is the lockscum slot of the game
But I think that it entirely lines up with my thread trajectory in a way that it wouldn't necessarily have to for me to be town, but.
If you're going off the multiquote from RC there are reach outs for Xtoxm to interact with me or the thread. But context isn't important in mafia.
Yes, there were. But you knew that he wasn't going to take your reach out because I was in the game. And still decided to call him scum for not taking it.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
In post 6214, RCEnigma wrote:This is even worse than the saudade wagon lol. When I flip no one gets to argue RC as town. Not even a little bit. You guys don't get to Lynch TW by feeding into his bullshit then me for feeding into his bullshit and still consider a world that RC is town.
I agree.
This wagon is more telling of RC than Saud though as this seems more SvT and Saud v RC feels SvS or TVT
This game is blowing my mind and I think it's mostly off poor dayplay by town.
But on my flip keep my skitter read in mind. Ico should be self resolvable but keep RC/Ico as a possibility.
How come every time I disagree with someone I am dumb or making a bad play?
It gets exhausting and only makes me double down on my opinion of where I was.
I kinda am fed up with RC hopping wagons and would gladly vote him too.
Mainly I think one of these two hits paydirt and I don’t care which but Saud is almost certainly town
I'm not putting your play down. I only quoted this point because I'm speaking to you directly. Mostly because if you live through the night I want you in the best position to prevent another mislynch.
Btw I never quoted this, but I actually remembered exactly when this read was given and that's how I knew it was a dated read.
Wouldn't have if I was scum because I simply wouldn't have read his ISO enough to have all this little stuff memorized.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
In post 6214, RCEnigma wrote:This is even worse than the saudade wagon lol. When I flip no one gets to argue RC as town. Not even a little bit. You guys don't get to Lynch TW by feeding into his bullshit then me for feeding into his bullshit and still consider a world that RC is town.
I agree.
This wagon is more telling of RC than Saud though as this seems more SvT and Saud v RC feels SvS or TVT
This game is blowing my mind and I think it's mostly off poor dayplay by town.
But on my flip keep my skitter read in mind. Ico should be self resolvable but keep RC/Ico as a possibility.
How come every time I disagree with someone I am dumb or making a bad play?
It gets exhausting and only makes me double down on my opinion of where I was.
I kinda am fed up with RC hopping wagons and would gladly vote him too.
Mainly I think one of these two hits paydirt and I don’t care which but Saud is almost certainly town
I'm not putting your play down. I only quoted this point because I'm speaking to you directly. Mostly because if you live through the night I want you in the best position to prevent another mislynch.
Hmmm hypothetically Jingle has good advice for lynching deep wolves yes? How?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 6166, RCEnigma wrote:
No one else had any interest in sorting him. So I'm not going to press on with a wagon no one even cares about.
Yet you did multiple times.
If you're going off the multiquote from RC there are reach outs for Xtoxm to interact with me or the thread. But context isn't important in mafia.
I just looked through your ISO myself and searched Xtoxm. It's just you calling him scum and voting him. Sorry, I mean it's you voting him and then calling him scum.
Nah man. Shouldn’t have come in here. Tonight was actually the best one - most substantive and least ad hominem - just fucking over this game. Never been in a 250 game, and really need to have an angel tel me your alignment so I can make sense of the thread. I feel like your the sun in that the game revolves around you (understandable given posting levels), but makes it hard to solve when I don’t know whether the sun is good or bad.
Jingle has lost two games to scum!me this year and had me locktown by play in one and locktown mechanically in the other so he's not who you should go to for advice on me btw.
They're scum as a team anyway, but if they were town Jingle is still not the correct answer. He also hard defended caughtscum deepwolf Volpe in 2070 :3
Nah man. Shouldn’t have come in here. Tonight was actually the best one - most substantive and least ad hominem - just fucking over this game. Never been in a 250 game, and really need to have an angel tel me your alignment so I can make sense of the thread. I feel like your the sun in that the game revolves around you (understandable given posting levels), but makes it hard to solve when I don’t know whether the sun is good or bad.
If it helps at all (it probably won't) I townread you and this and your last post just made that go from like 90% to 99%.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
And the criteria on that 1% is Volpe being here and writing posts for you in real time that are already pseudo paraphrased that you can paraphrase into normal sounding english. Shrug.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
In post 6166, RCEnigma wrote:
No one else had any interest in sorting him. So I'm not going to press on with a wagon no one even cares about.
Yet you did multiple times.
If you're going off the multiquote from RC there are reach outs for Xtoxm to interact with me or the thread. But context isn't important in mafia.
I just looked through your ISO myself and searched Xtoxm. It's just you calling him scum and voting him. Sorry, I mean it's you voting him and then calling him scum.
In post 6241, RadiantCowbells wrote:Jingle has lost two games to scum!me this year and had me locktown by play in one and locktown mechanically in the other so he's not who you should go to for advice on me btw.
They're scum as a team anyway, but if they were town Jingle is still not the correct answer. He also hard defended caughtscum deepwolf Volpe in 2070 :3
Nah man. Shouldn’t have come in here. Tonight was actually the best one - most substantive and least ad hominem - just fucking over this game. Never been in a 250 game, and really need to have an angel tel me your alignment so I can make sense of the thread. I feel like your the sun in that the game revolves around you (understandable given posting levels), but makes it hard to solve when I don’t know whether the sun is good or bad.
If it helps at all (it probably won't) I townread you and this and your last post just made that go from like 90% to 99%.
That post while probably genuine makes me scumread teacher more if RCE is scum
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 6214, RCEnigma wrote:This is even worse than the saudade wagon lol. When I flip no one gets to argue RC as town. Not even a little bit. You guys don't get to Lynch TW by feeding into his bullshit then me for feeding into his bullshit and still consider a world that RC is town.
I agree.
This wagon is more telling of RC than Saud though as this seems more SvT and Saud v RC feels SvS or TVT
This game is blowing my mind and I think it's mostly off poor dayplay by town.
But on my flip keep my skitter read in mind. Ico should be self resolvable but keep RC/Ico as a possibility.
How come every time I disagree with someone I am dumb or making a bad play?
It gets exhausting and only makes me double down on my opinion of where I was.
I kinda am fed up with RC hopping wagons and would gladly vote him too.
Mainly I think one of these two hits paydirt and I don’t care which but Saud is almost certainly town
I'm not putting your play down. I only quoted this point because I'm speaking to you directly. Mostly because if you live through the night I want you in the best position to prevent another mislynch.
Hmmm hypothetically Jingle has good advice for lynching deep wolves yes? How?
If you mean just in general I'll ask him. If you're referring to Skitter. If she is still reluctant to push RC after my flip then yeah she is probably scum. Otherwise I feel good about my read there.
In post 6246, RadiantCowbells wrote:I wish me you and skitter mutually townread each other because that would make this game a phenomenal amount easier for me.
Speaking of skitter where is she?
And I bet it would but her read progression on me is crap. Doesn’t make sense for a townie to have.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 6245, RCEnigma wrote:If you're referring to Skitter. If she is still reluctant to push RC after my flip then yeah she is probably scum.
This, uh, feels like an incredibly fake read and the opposite of what you should be posting if you're town?
If we're SvS she's definitely going to end up hardbussing me at some point if I'm pushing the mislynches, why give her out to do it AND get townread for it
Speaking of skitter where is she?
And I bet it would but her read progression on me is crap. Doesn’t make sense for a townie to have.
V/LA on the weekend.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
I missed the most important part of 6245 by the way; the fact that he said that if she lynches me in a situation where she as SvS with me wants to be lynching me she is town.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
