Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

I think we've all gotten a ton out of this phase, I think it's time to end it, and I don't think RCE is the right wagon to end it on.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is me explicitly disavowing any characterization of Saudade as a policy lynch and thus any ability to talk my way out of it by saying "grr i just wanted him 2 die bcuz person scumreading me make me mad"

[MathBlade]

Math, IDC if you think that I'm SvS with Saudade after he flips scum, but I do need you to vote there.

RCE is more -this shouldn't go to lylo- than -this must absolutely die today- to me.

Like I said before

I just want the day over with. My votes on who I want lynched until L-1 then a claim then if I don’t like it hammers. I don’t scumread Saude so I won’t vote there unless it’s to end the day

[RadiantCowbells]

If Saudade flips scum and I die, can you agree to work with Skitter tomorrow even if you scumread her

[RadiantCowbells]

tw
ico
math
skitter
rce
bella
ari/teacher
flopz/plum/tris/xtoxm
rc

btw, if you flip duck's read on me/RCE, and use their reads before they re-evaluated their reads based off the assumption that the wagon on them was scum motivated
all you have to do is move teacher and Flopz up (which given that most of my reasons to townread them are based on D2 not D1 makes sense) and you end up with the same PoE that I have
this is also the exact same PoE general PoE that I had presented way, way back when Duckling originally called me scum although I had already cleared Teacher/Flopz out by then?

i've been called out for having a lot of townreads but i think there are actually just a lot of people in this game who are easy to townread and we should win bc of that
still kinda confused at them going after me when my poe at the time was them + 4 of their lynchpool and they randomly sheeped my townreads when they started scumreading me but...
okay, unless they thought that the scumteam was rc/flopz/teacher

[skitter30]

Really long day, i'll be around tom

[RadiantCowbells]

omg hi

[RadiantCowbells]

and bye

[skitter30]

omg hi

Hi! And bye !

[Aristophanes]

Uggh do I need to read the last 10 pages where RC grills RCE and shows they're not understanding the game (from what I skimmed) and convinced Math and Saudade to vote RCE because, and I'm assuming here, he's feeling ingenuous and wrong in what he is saying and RC seems right to them for once?

Or did I mostly nail it.

[RadiantCowbells]

You should read it

We're still lunching Saudade though

[Aristophanes]

KK Slated for first thing in the morning then unless I can't sleep tn

[RadiantCowbells]

No rush to read it

I really just did that whole thing for in case I die tonight.

[Aristophanes]

No rush to read it

I really just did that whole thing for in case I die tonight.

Ah cool np, I definitely will give it a read through at your recommendation

[Iconeum]

Ico thoughts

Not caught up st all

Lynch Saud
If town lynch rc
If scum lynch show

[shos]

You've literally never once this game given a reason that you don't want to lynch Saudade btw
Also, you guys have the worst mutual associatives of possibly any slot in the game? So the fact that you're both hard defending each other without giving reasons isn't helping anyone if you're town.

Is that a bad thing?
I took some time in Shabbat to ISO him and found that I see no good reason for that Lynch, and that many of the shit that comes from that slot I can relate to as a replacement who is town and is actually trying to engage and understand the game. Therefore, I think that slot is a town replacement.

Also how, again, do I wake up to 10 more pages

[shos]

Also, Shos's not calling his counterwagon (me) scum as scum was a little strange to me and the biggest ? about calling him scum but it makes a ton more sense if both of his partners are already on the wagon.

Just saying, I have no idea what wagons there are, were or are currently counterwagons to me, at all. Part of the "this game is a shit canyon to follow" thing.

Also I find it interesting that at least 2, even 3, of the active players are hunting for associatives and the entire scumteam when there isn't even one flip which is remotely helpful. Stop doing that if you're town, you're thinking way too much considering the information you have.

Re: me flipping thoughts: yes, I replaced into a 200 paged game and I am not ashamed of not knowing what the fuck is happening. I try to form reads one by one and not how you like it. I literally laughed out loud (loud!!!) When I saw Ari's post 'yeah I know I posted blabla town saudade early game but..' I MEAN COME ON DO YOU REALLY THINK I KNOW THAT THIS HAPPENED. For all I know you could have written mein Kampf in pages 85, 92 and 98 in all caps.

You guys should really stop pretending this is a normal game where everyone follows everything.

I posted a readslist which showed you just about how sure I was at the time. Right now I officially added a NULLTOWN read on saudade, and I ask why people vote him. "Inconsistency" is just not a legit accusation this game.

[shos]

Not gonna quote because phoneposting but the interactions between RC and RCE on 244~ actually make me think RC is scum. It looks like he's twisting words in a fashion that I do when I'm scum. Will not vote until comp and a good read because I realized he might be a leading wagon

[shos]

248 presents a good side of flopz and bad of RCE

[shos]

and I think xtoxm is kinda the key to solving the game

because if he's scum that says a lot about what the scumteam is doing (it would essentially have to be like {saudade, ari, xtoxm} as I called out as a potential team before)
whereas if he's not, scum is probably just all the people calling him scum for no real reason {shos saudade rce}
maybe there's some room for {shos saudade aristophanes} as well?

maaaybe {shos saudade xtoxm} but that really doesn't feel likely based on Saudade's interactions that seem to suggest exactly 1/2 of {Ari/RCE} is his buddy

you'll note that there is 1 intersection here and that's saudade which is who I want to vote for obviously

i'm going to be really fucking salty if shos somehow ends up being town despite just, like, not making any effort to dispel thoughts that he's SvS with Saudade. lol

1. Quit it with the association attempts. Xtomz has not interacted with practically anyone and discerning his alignment will NOT solve the game. Take a chill pill
2. The fact I'm not putting forth forceful attempts to dissuade your thought that I am scum with saudade comes probably because I don't know that you think so, or care. Also, you putting us in a pool as if we're fighting is wrong, we too barely interacted, and in order for it to be SvS there has to be a 'v', lol, in addition to both of us being scum.

Let's put my thoughts like this. If you had to put just one name and burn them, who would that be and why? ONE NAME, not a team.

[shos]

Shos, if you're town, I would really appreciate it if you would look past your townread on Saudade and vote him because you are making this game impossible for town if you're town
In the end it's gonna be him or me and if you're townreading me you should want it to be him.

Lol did you just to me to vote my townread cuz your wagon doesn't gain enough votes?

[shos]

Woohoo I'm actually all caught up and it's taken me only 7 hours on and off!


VOTE: xtomx
I actually think a policy Lynch+night action results will be the best

[Xtoxm]

you were already voting me

[Iconeum]

Woohoo I'm actually all caught up and it's taken me only 7 hours on and off!


VOTE: xtomx
I actually think a policy Lynch+night action results will be the best

VOTE: shos

I can't let this live srsly

[RadiantCowbells]

Pls not Shos

I'm actually not sure this is scum and the gamestate is going to be hell if we flip town

You can trust me on Saudade