Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 4.02

bob3141 (3) -

Nancy Drew 39, Amrun, DrDolittle

Elsa Jay (1) -

Hectic

Not Voting (6) -

Eddie Cane, Titus, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, NaCl, bob3141

With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 4 is in (expired on 2020-02-07 23:30:00).

[bob3141]

yep that was part of the case that pops tried to push against armum when backing up her ealier push. Its what convinced me for sure that pops was scum at that point.

now if armum and you nancy are both as currently think town.

That leaves the first wagon with 5 townies on and 5 in teh first 5 places on the second.

So was hectic actual scum and scum stayed away or does that comment hold some truth and scum simply stayed away.

[bob3141]

It was in jest, Eddie. I know it's completely unreasonable to think there's another layer to this doc gambit. I would never kill Oka there, it's a newbish kill that kinda rules out Titus and Amrun even more as scum, and points more towards me scum since I'm relatively new here. That's ignoring the fact you risk getting blocked and giving town an extra lynch.

Bob posting that VC reminded me both pops and Krazy were off my 7 wagon. I'd be surprised if all 3 stayed off it. But Bob, you're asking some open ended questions here but what's YOUR conclusion from that VCA?

its not vca. This one needs audience precipitation. I want to know what different players think on the hectic wagon. If they think one scum was on it, if your scum now or if scum were absent

that way i can get read of thier own views

[bob3141]

VOTE: pops

l1

hmm

what

i dont like it

saw this little extract. Im failing to see why a scum player would associate them selves both with l-1 vote on their partner. as well as that vote being made with another partners neighbout who could become confirmed town


so for that and other reads i think drd is a slight town read for me

[Titus]

Bob, where have you been?

Intelligent post here that puts the last scum.

Confess!

[NaCl]

Why am I still here?

[Titus]

Why am I still here?

My bet is you healed Oka so they shot her over you? Where did you guys disagree?

[Eddie Cane]

Gonna be honest idk who scum is and I did my part and caught 2 somebody else tap in

[NaCl]

It was in jest, Eddie. I know it's completely unreasonable to think there's another layer to this doc gambit. I would never kill Oka there, it's a newbish kill that kinda rules out Titus and Amrun even more as scum, and points more towards me scum since I'm relatively new here. That's ignoring the fact you risk getting blocked and giving town an extra lynch.

Bob posting that VC reminded me both pops and Krazy were off my 7 wagon. I'd be surprised if all 3 stayed off it. But Bob, you're asking some open ended questions here but what's YOUR conclusion from that VCA?

This post right here gives me the creeps.
"I would never make this kill and it's trying to frame me."
Assuming that there is a doc gambit is something that is a reasonable explanation for killing Oka. I mean, the other explanation is that they're being suspected by Oka and killed him to...gain a day or something? Because most people had the same kind of consensus. It's possible the kill is to frame Elsa more than anyone else? But that's fairly flat reasoning.
Also I don't really think a "newbish" kill is something anyone would make, as they have 3 people they could talk to and go over their kill targets with during the night.

I'm still pretty confused on why such a kill would happen, so if someone has an idea I do want to hear it. It would help me find scum, I think. Right now it points right back at Hectic but I'm also worried it's trying to push me to go after him again. And independent of his post, I think the kill points away from Hectic.

Why am I still here?

My bet is you healed Oka so they shot her over you? Where did you guys disagree?

I'm not sure if you're joking or something but I don't get what you're saying here. But I healed DDL on night 2. I'm not saying my N3 target, of course.

[Hectic]

@You only ever protect Eddie/Oka last night. Targeting Oka is basically a 50% chance of getting blocked, that's why I think it's a newbish/bad kill.

[Eddie Cane]

The other option is throwing a save away to take the higher % save n4, 50/50 vs 0/100 (because scum assumes you didnt throw a save).

Talking about this stuff is bad though.

[Amrun]

Eddie, how do you feel about Hectic?

[Eddie Cane]

I'm ambivalent about whether we kill bob or elsa or hectic

The way I scumhunt is weird, and it caught 2 for me, but it doesnt work for finding the third super well.

[Eddie Cane]

I just work on building a town bloc in situations like this

Nancy is out of her scum range
I believe Titus is out of her scum range
I am confirmed town
NaCl is confirmed town
I don't think amruns play feels super like bussing for endgame, though I'll admit I'm more paranoid of her than Nancy or Titus. Still dont think I'd vote her this game.
DDL felt very townie with the doctor gambit
I am sticking to my lock town SS read d1 because d1 is generally when my reads are best

So that leaves bob elsa hectic. All 3 have town points. None are townie enough to be out of PoE. Very likely theres a scum here. For what it's worth that hectic wagon being 7 town on a town is pretty wild, though not impossible.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Bob

I cant be confirmed otherwise, but I know I'm town. So this is the way towards a town victory way faster then lynching me.


Sayanara, Bob.

[Hectic]

That should be obvious; feels like unnecessary justification to me.

[bob3141]

Can anyone voting me answer why on you think a scum me would allow a pine night kill. As far as i can tell the only case against me so far is simply poe lynch.

Before the end of day one i was talking about it being suspect should a players neighbour be killed. As i though pine at that time could be scum trying to get me lynched. So of all the players im teh only one at that time saying scum migth kill their neighbour before their own flip. So why would i even mention such stuff. When the very next day it could be used against me.

Not only that but I would know that since pine is my neighbour that pine wouldnt be the doc. So what reason left for scum team including me would their be to kill pine.

So why kill him over taking a pot shot looking to hit the doc. And player who's very death would make me look bad.

[Titus]

VOTE: Bob

You're hammered Bob. Did we win?

[bob3141]

no

[Eddie Cane]

Lol

[bob3141]

i dont know if i should feel insulted that 5 players would think a scum me would kill pine n1

[Eddie Cane]

I mean Pine scum read you I don't think its crazy

[bob3141]

i would have gone after the doc.

[bob3141]

n1 i was thinking nacl is eitehr scum or the doc. So if I had been scum nacl would have died n1

[Hectic]

Why were you docreading NaCl back then?