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Post Post #6350 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 6345, Saudade wrote:
In post 6342, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6339, Saudade wrote:Yeah we just finished a town game together, you've seen my scum play
Theres no way you read me wrong here
i mean am i supposed to be thinking that this looks like your towngame or
What I've said stands dont deflect by asking a rhetorical question
this looks like your scumgame (the one where i was a mason with cheeky ... )
i'm saying that if i'm wrong it would be helpful if you could demonstrate that, but your response is ... not exactly showing me your town here
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Post Post #6351 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:36 am

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In post 6346, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't know what to say to that; i'm town and i read him as town.
idk that's what it looks like to me
because you're townreading him hard and i don't see it
and he in turn is effectively townreading you for defending him

so the dynamic is a little creepy from over here
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Post Post #6352 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:38 am

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i get it. i just don't know how to fix the issue.
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Post Post #6353 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 5953, Xtoxm wrote:ari i havent been vla 90% wtf
i was vla for like a week and i dont think i even hit a prod timer
i wasnt vla at all on d1 either and was relatively active
i mean this is kinda reinforcing shos' point but ok

xtoxm not doing anything the whole game is kinda ... not good
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Post Post #6354 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:40 am

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i just... have a lot better ways of navigating the gamestate if i'm svs with flopz than whatever i'm doing right now regardless of who my buddy is?
i mean this is kinda reinforcing shos' point but ok

xtoxm not doing anything the whole game is kinda ... not good
i agree and honestly i think i was right the first time on saudade/xtoxm based on saudade trying to force that interaction and how xtoxm reacted to the forced interaction
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Post Post #6355 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:40 am

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In post 6352, RadiantCowbells wrote:i get it. i just don't know how to fix the issue.
like the way you're reading him is how you read me way back when that time we were svs in my like third game onsite

or iirc gemini in that awful newbie that i'm trying to expunge from my memory
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Post Post #6356 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:41 am

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i don't remember the sauade/xtoxm thing you're talking about
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Post Post #6357 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:42 am

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math's approach to the game is just baffling tbh
like i don't get how he comes to his conclusions at all
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Post Post #6358 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:44 am

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In post 5997, Saudade wrote:What worries me the most is that some of you are musically illiterate
In post 5998, Saudade wrote:If I had a hatchet
It would be yours to have
'Cause your decapitating habits feel a little bit orgasmic
If I gave you a hatchet
It would be yours to have
I kind of like the feeling when you stab me in the back
Every time i see you
Look me in the eye
I look straight back
'Cause a part of me will die
If I had a hatchet
It would be yours to have
No amount of pain would ever stop me coming back
In post 5999, Saudade wrote:Another day, another round of mostly math rc ari and me posting
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oh he's just lolcatting now, ok
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Post Post #6359 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:47 am

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i don't really have an answer outside of i'm town and that's how i'm reading him.
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Post Post #6360 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:48 am

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In post 6031, shos wrote:Alright
I don't wanna lynch Saudade
Can anyone of those on his wagon tell me why they are there, pleaz?
why don't you want to lynch saudade, please elaborate ty
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Post Post #6361 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:51 am

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In post 6359, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't really have an answer outside of i'm town and that's how i'm reading him.
idk
it's lowkey creeping me out ngl

also that flopz isn't like paranoid of you white-knighting him (or whatever the current trendy term is idk)

and that he seems to be just plain alright with it

it feels like something is kinda wrong in that pairing
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Post Post #6362 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:54 am

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In post 6361, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6359, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't really have an answer outside of i'm town and that's how i'm reading him.
idk
it's lowkey creeping me out ngl

also that flopz isn't like paranoid of you white-knighting him (or whatever the current trendy term is idk)

and that he seems to be just plain alright with it

it feels like something is kinda wrong in that pairing
That's not the case, I just never said those specific words publicly.
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Post Post #6363 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:54 am

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In post 6050, RadiantCowbells wrote:RCE defending Tris all day yesterday, calling Plum scum but never voting them until the short period it looked like me/Skitter were going to combined lead in Tris/Plum where he said he was fine with voting either,
huh
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Post Post #6364 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:55 am

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In post 6362, Flopz wrote:
In post 6361, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6359, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't really have an answer outside of i'm town and that's how i'm reading him.
idk
it's lowkey creeping me out ngl

also that flopz isn't like paranoid of you white-knighting him (or whatever the current trendy term is idk)

and that he seems to be just plain alright with it

it feels like something is kinda wrong in that pairing
That's not the case, I just never said those specific words publicly.
sorry i'm not sure what you're referring to here
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Post Post #6365 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:55 am

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i think i have had plenty of interactions in plenty of my town games with newbies that are very similar to this where i hard townread them from early on and they townread me for it.
if we're talking purely about flopz you can also consider cases like datisi in that newbie where i was scum

point is that you're paranoid about me because you've seen my scum game for years and know what i can do. flopz hasn't. why wouldn't flopz townread me here?
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Post Post #6366 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:56 am

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In post 5921, Flopz wrote:The more I've been reading of this game the harder it is to believe RC is scum imo. I can't see a reason for him to have backtracked so hard so many times if all that does is being more fire down his backside.
Additionally, the fact that he didn't try and push my mislynch is quite important as it wouldn't be an understatement to say I'm a pretty easy target and I'm not sure what he had to gain by being the main proponent on Town Flopz. However, it could be he's hedging his bets by making a claim he knows to be 100% correct if he's scum that nobody else believed and then he can say "See, I'm the best solver in the land" - sth be never does /s. That would only work though if there was a more concerted effort by scum to try and push me.
But I don't think this is the case and I'm holding RC as a very high Town in my eyes.
I slightly brought up my thought process about this before.
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Post Post #6367 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:58 am

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In post 6364, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6362, Flopz wrote:
In post 6361, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6359, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't really have an answer outside of i'm town and that's how i'm reading him.
idk
it's lowkey creeping me out ngl

also that flopz isn't like paranoid of you white-knighting him (or whatever the current trendy term is idk)

and that he seems to be just plain alright with it

it feels like something is kinda wrong in that pairing
That's not the case, I just never said those specific words publicly.
sorry i'm not sure what you're referring to here
I have felt paranoid from him white-knighting me.
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Post Post #6368 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:02 pm

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my point is more that you ultimately dismiss those concerns of scum!rc and just seem kinda content to roll with him townreading you

@flopz

(paranoid might not have been the right word but whatever)
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Post Post #6369 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:03 pm

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In post 6365, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think i have had plenty of interactions in plenty of my town games with newbies that are very similar to this where i hard townread them from early on and they townread me for it.
if we're talking purely about flopz you can also consider cases like datisi in that newbie where i was scum

point is that you're paranoid about me because you've seen my scum game for years and know what i can do. flopz hasn't. why wouldn't flopz townread me here?
idk if in a vaccuum i just started playing on a random site and someone i ddin't know started hard hard townreading me and defendign me like this i think i'd be a little worried about their motivations
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Post Post #6370 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:04 pm

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In post 6066, RCEnigma wrote:FL says this saudade wagon is dumb. The counterwagon is obvious. Also saudade specifically he says go ham.
he goes ham differently as scum and town tho, that's the thing

does he think he's a cw to shos or rc ?
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Post Post #6371 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:11 pm

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In post 6079, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 6078, RCEnigma wrote:Oh then the basically FL scumreads Icos iso, which I agreed with up until his plum push. But I'm not great at reading Ico. I think I've misread him every game we've played together as both alignments. So I was still considering it.

He also scumreads him on the basis that RC would be obscuring associates and RC/Skitter felt too blatant. Ergo the associatives would be simpler and less direct.

But I'll also go back and double check because that was a start of day read and I feel I'm misrepping it.
HOLD IT THERE

You're saying that Flavor Leaf, before Iconeum outed as having saved Mathblade, said that Iconeum made sense as scum with me?
But now, following Iconeum claiming protective on Mathblade (which should upend any read), Flavor Leaf has not given an updated read yet you're still giving it as if it's relevant?

That seems like something a town-aligned player would really really really not do!
i feel like your'e kinda taking fl's read out of context
or like making a bigger deal about it than it is ?

like i read rce sharing fl's read as an aside 'oh and this is how fl was reading him in the past' and i kinda feel like you're using this quote out of context ???
i'm not sure i'm explaingin quite right how i feel about this but i think you're not understanding what rce is saying quite correctly
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Post Post #6372 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:12 pm

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In post 6081, RCEnigma wrote:He still reads Ico as your partner. Read the posts man, this is like 3 posts in a row where you are twisting posts to mean something else.
wait nm

rce you're saying that boon thinks rc/ico is viable ... ?
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Post Post #6373 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:13 pm

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In post 6327, Flopz wrote:
In post 6296, shos wrote:Woohoo I'm actually all caught up and it's taken me only 7 hours on and off!
VOTE: xtomx
I actually think a policy Lynch+night action results will be the best
What's your rationale behind this being the best course of events?
This game's D1 was a shitshow, and it appears that the lack ofnightkill basically made D2 the same as D1, nothing to go on. May as well lynch policy lurker, or even nolynch to get the numbers back to odd.
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Post Post #6374 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:15 pm

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In post 6360, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6031, shos wrote:Alright
I don't wanna lynch Saudade
Can anyone of those on his wagon tell me why they are there, pleaz?
why don't you want to lynch saudade, please elaborate ty
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In post 6032, RadiantCowbells wrote:You've literally never once this game given a reason that you don't want to lynch Saudade btw
Also, you guys have the worst mutual associatives of possibly any slot in the game? So the fact that you're both hard defending each other without giving reasons isn't helping anyone if you're town.
Is that a bad thing?
I took some time in Shabbat to ISO him and found that I see no good reason for that Lynch, and that many of the shit that comes from that slot I can relate to as a replacement who is town and is actually trying to engage and understand the game. Therefore, I think that slot is a town replacement.

Also how, again, do I wake up to 10 more pages
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