White Flag - TM2020

[CheekyTeeky]

Pops was 100% on him being town. I townread Espeonage, Auro because of their paranoia of the dunn/dann duo. I don't know I need to process why.

[Auro]

I wasn't paranoid of Dann

[CheekyTeeky]

You were of Dunn tho.

[Dannflor]

I wasn't paranoid of Dann

but now... dun dun dun

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Hopkirk

[Auro]

Yes, not of the duo

[Cephrir]

Apparently Auro was paranoid too, but be direct Cephrir. What does that mean for your read on me?

Nothing. I just don't think there's any reason to go paranoia spiraling over the most widely townread player in the game being nightkilled.

[CheekyTeeky]

Sure.

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Dong

[Auro]

@Dann, Ceph: What plausible partners would scum Hop have?

[CheekyTeeky]

I think someone has called me scum with literally every wagon that has popped up this game, at some point

[Auro]

Can you guys towncase the turkey?

[Cephrir]

@Dann, Ceph: What plausible partners would scum Hop have?

I honestly havent thought about this at all and I dont plan to.

Theres so much wifom in the setup that I kind of dont care.

[Auro]

Then why not Gobble?

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Hop

Okay with Dong as well.

[Dannflor]

Can you guys towncase the turkey?

I think he's just like, a bit townier than Dongempire overall. I don't really care to town case him because I'm not completely opposed to lynching him; I'd put him about equal to Hop or slightly above in my reads list. I just like don't think he's as bad as Dong.

I said there was scum in the [Espeonage, Dong, Hop] triage and I don't think I'm necessarily wrong in that because I was wrong on Espeonage. And Dunn dying with the exact same opinion along with being someone who had (probably?) more credibility than me strengthens that

Gonna try to get my team to reread Hop because I have mixed feelings about him atm.

[BBmolla]

For the record we have three lynches to get scum

[Auro]

And what makes Hop scum exactly?

[Auro]

For the record we have three lynches to get scum

Say Hop flips town, you lynch Dong and he flips town as well. Who would you want to lynch then?

[Auro]

For the record we have three lynches to get scum

Didn't occur to you when we tried to lynch Gobble?

ya'll are high af

seriously what game are you reading

I'll go today if you fucks want, I don't want to be in this town tbh, ya'll are fucking impossible to work with

Like I can't believe the Hop wagon never happened, what the actual fuck?

Convince me on Gobbles, like I literally don't understand, go

[Auro]

Spoiler:

I’m fairly discouraged at this point following the recent modkill and consequent tiebreaker implications. Been off work today and this is the fourth time I’ve opened up the site intending to get into the game then getting demotivated and just closing it.

I don’t think any of my team particularly joined with the expectation of winning, mostly to try and enjoy the games. They’ve been in general a lot less fun than I expected (tonewise trying to read has been a slog) and I’m struggling to find the motivation to help my team. I’m glad I got the game I did since people here actually seem enjoyable to play with. I’m basically treating this as a normal game rather than team mafia, albeit one where Hectic can occasionally weigh in, and where the mods read everything in our PTs so I can force the mods to read my erotica if I put game related content interspace throughout it.

The modkill itself results in a tiebreaker in the large theme which is pretty central to why I’m discouraged- we can’t mechanically win unless conditions so unlikely they’re virtually impossible have already been met. It’d be a lot easier if any of us had managed to roll mafia (which would be pretty good normally for team mafia bsed on last time) since then we could still win if we all won our games. Annoyingly, the tiebreaker means that even if all three of us were able to immediate call out and lynch the entire scumteams in our respective games it’s not possible for us to win the event unless very specific and unlikely events (all of which are completely out of our control, and most of which have already been determined):

1.) The game we are not in MUST be won by scum as the number of other teams (17) less expected scum numbers across all games is not sufficient to mean that we are the only team who won all of our games (unless there’s more scum than you’d anticipate based on regular setup design and/or there’s exactly one scum per each team).
2.) Every member of said winning scumteam MUST also have another member of their team who rolled scum and lost (though the loss is assumed knowledge as if we win any scum in game’s we’re in would lose).
3.) The game elements was modkilled in MUST also be won by town.

We need specific results in 2 games we have no way to influence, and we need the distribution of scum/town in each team to be very specific and have specific overlap. Nothing we could have done to stop the modkill either, but that’s gone now. Better hope nobody in your team manages to get modkilled. We’re hoping for pretty much all of the large to get modkilled obviously, since enough modkills means we can technically not lose the tiebreak, and running the numbers that’s actually a lot more likely than any other way we’ve got of inning at this point.

Spent enough time talking about this with my team that I’m reasonably confident I didn’t miss anything, but if anyone notices a way we can possibly still have any chance of winning even with the tiebreaker in place then please let me know.
Kind of kills a lot of the enthusiasm I had for the team element of team mafia.

Still, going to try and catch up on this absolutely normal and not at all special or once a year event. Expecting to be interrupted by an important call from work at some point though.

Hopkirk 'Hop' Hopkirk

^A post I doubt Hop makes as scum; the emotions here feel genuine. If he was scum, that'd give him a winning chance for TM (apparently) and I don't think he'd go through the effort to post this - why would it help?

Oh the Auro wagon has half shifted so keeping it up is less pressure than I thought. Sure.

VOTE: Northside
Votes NSG. Shifts it later, but read on.

Hop 'Hopimilius' Hopkirk

I didn't read up. I can't now either and no idea when I'll be able to next week due to work.

I've seen the lynch. I've lost all respect for NSG as a player. I've lost the respect that I had for RC as a player. I've discussed it with the team- people who've discussed irl how they like RC - and everyone seems to share this view.

I'm especially irritated as this clearly was only allowed due to reputation. A new player in that slot with an 7 day period without content would have been subbed out. When it's clearly strategic since she was playing elsewhere in TM I'm pissed that it was actually allowed and would have been disgusted if she was pulling that as my teammate.

Quoting my post end gimmick because fuck this game.

I'm mostly disgusted with RC/North and irritated with the mod for enabling it despite prod rules. The lynch I absolutely agreed with as I fairly clearly said. I don't remember if I used the words I want to policy lynch this.

So scum! Hopkirk casually votes NSG mid D1, is worried about not having a winning chance for TM but still is okay; and then when his partner flips he decides to fabricate *this*? I imagine if he was actually teammates with her he'd try to get NSG replaced. These posts look like a genuine town reaction.

[CheekyTeeky]

Cephrir who are your next 3 lynches?

[CheekyTeeky]

Dann same question

[Auro]

Hop and Dong are two; I'm curious about the third.

[Auro]

Y’all are unlikely this is all vanilla or I’d soft a PR and end this fucking garbage can wagon

Good luck letting NSG live another three days while continuing to lurk btw

This is a mistake - NSG is scumclaiming right now

Oh no she might flee tonight!

Oh wait

What was up with this post?

why can't we lynch NSG tomorrow

?

Conflicting thought processes.

Math says he thinks it’s Ceph, Cheeky, NSG

Interesting that instead he just doesn't care for Cheeky or Ceph D2, readily votes Espy to "end the day" but cares a LOT when Gobble is wagoned.