White Flag - TM2020

[Donempire]

Neither hopkirk nor gobble are scum.

For that we'll have to go back, back in time...
Remember when nsg got wagoned to lynch a lurker, any lurker? That was when the scum panic mode started. From that point on they would have to control the discussion together or only one of them would not be enough as just one lynch spells doom.

This in my eyes clears 5 people: Hopkirk, Former, Ceph, Kitty and BB.
BB and Former are obvious. If this was a lynch all scum game there might have been some wifom involved, but theres no point in opening up scum counterwagons in a white flag.
Cephrir hasnt been nearly active enough to take control of the discussion, a lurking strategy with your other scummate leading the charge theoretically should work but im not convinced based on his posts.
Kitty is, well, town. Besides that she was consistently posting in lower numbers with arguably more content than any single player which isnt good for controlling the pace of the game.
Hopkirk hasnt had a damn to give the game after d1s lynch, this could mean he tried to change the playstyle to suit the 2 scum playstyle but i think its probably a case for him being town, seeing as scum would want to be more front and center after that to lead lurker mislynches, while hopkirk just became a lurkee himself.

That leaves four people to be scum: Auro, myself, dann and cheeky.

I got a train to catch. Rest coming afterwards

[Auro]

I'll go today if you fucks want, I don't want to be in this town tbh, ya'll are fucking impossible to work with

BB, quote a single instance from any of your previous towngames where you take this stance against another wagon on D1/D2, please.

[Donempire]

Replace kitty with blank and add gobble to the bottom pile for post 2300

[Auro]

At Dong's post... Wow.

[Dannflor]

Dann same question

Probably:

Dong > gobble > either Hop or BBmolla; I am undecided and waiting for team input

Hop has gone up in towniness for me but I want to double check I'm not town reading things I shouldn't be

I'm pretty confident in [FF, Cheeky, Auro, Cephrir] being all town

[Donempire]

At Dong's post... Wow.

Why?

[Auro]

That leaves four people to be scum: Auro, myself, dann and cheeky.

@Dann: Scum!Dong's plan is what here exactly?

[Cephrir]

Then why not Gobble?

He's fine too. I certainly preferred him to lynching Espeonage, but we did that anyway for some reason.

Cephrir who are your next 3 lynches?

I don't think this is a good question. Each day produces more info which I will use to reevaluate.

[Auro]

Ceph, the question implies the information of each successive lynch flipping town. I think the answer to that question is important in other ways, but I can't go into them right now.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't think this is a good question. Each day produces more info which I will use to reevaluate.

What new info do you have now?

[CheekyTeeky]

Dong can you give me a read on gobble and how that's evolved for you through the game?

[Donempire]

Yes

[BBmolla]

For the record we have three lynches to get scum

Say Hop flips town, you lynch Dong and he flips town as well. Who would you want to lynch then?

Cheeky

Driving home will get to your other questions later

[BBmolla]

Auro your confirmation bias is real homeslice

[CheekyTeeky]

[Auro]

@BB, cool - tell me why Gobble is town.

[BBmolla]

@BB, cool - tell me why Gobble is town.

I'm not so certain they are anymore

but they seemed gut town for their reaction to the shit wagon on them

[BBmolla]

yes please keep gaslighting me

[BBmolla]

^A post I doubt Hop makes as scum; the emotions here feel genuine. If he was scum, that'd give him a winning chance for TM (apparently) and I don't think he'd go through the effort to post this - why would it help?

nothing in that post indicates town

I do believe he's genuinely annoyed about the modkill and shit

[BBmolla]

So scum! Hopkirk casually votes NSG mid D1, is worried about not having a winning chance for TM but still is okay; and then when his partner flips he decides to fabricate *this*? I imagine if he was actually teammates with her he'd try to get NSG replaced. These posts look like a genuine town reaction.

nothing about those posts indicate town

I do think he's genuinely annoyed with NSG playing like she did

[BBmolla]

Conflicting thought processes.

why did you quote them out of order?

yes when things were going the way I wanted I was fine with not lynching NSG

yes when things were instead turning to lynch the confirmed town person to me I was very upset that they weren't lynching NSG

[BBmolla]

Interesting that instead he just doesn't care for Cheeky or Ceph D2, readily votes Espy to "end the day" but cares a LOT when Gobble is wagoned.

why is that interesting

I think there's a simpler answer, but if there isn't than one of them is likely scum

[Auro]

It's interesting because town!Molla never cared much about the lynch of a slot he didn't strongly townread, on D1/D2. Prove me wrong.

[BBmolla]

I'll go today if you fucks want, I don't want to be in this town tbh, ya'll are fucking impossible to work with

BB, quote a single instance from any of your previous towngames where you take this stance against another wagon on D1/D2, please.

well here's me not doing that as town
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1525

i don't get run up d1 that much, I'm normally like a "fuck it's day 3, idk I guess BBmolla" lynch

I mean I guess this is a similar mindset
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11386632

here's me faking being upset as scum
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10756869

[BBmolla]

It's interesting because town!Molla never cared much about the lynch of a slot he didn't strongly townread, on D1/D2. Prove me wrong.

I don't even understand what this means