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Post Post #4550 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:52 am

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I need to double check a lot of things before I can answer that for certain
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Post Post #4551 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:07 am

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In post 4550, Ankamius wrote:I need to double check a lot of things before I can answer that for certain
Fair. I will be quite interested in what those things end up being
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Post Post #4552 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:52 am

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In post 4548, Ankamius wrote:I wonder if I'm being blindsided by kuribo or firebringer by how they're handling my slot

Calling you a dick for pointlessly making me voteless is hardly "handling" your slot.
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Post Post #4553 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:54 am

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@Mod I'm moving this week and will be VLA until February 1


I may be able to post more than I think, but this is just a precaution because moving is never simple
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Post Post #4554 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:59 am

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nomnomnom (5): panthaleon, DeasVail, Gammagooey, DEB, Flavor Leaf
Dr Easy Bake (2): Firebringer, nomnomnom
DeasVail (2): daveaz, Almost50
Firebringer (1): MariaR
Ankamius (1): EspressoPatronum

Not Voting (2): kuribo, chennisden

With 14 alive it's 8 to lynch. Deadline is 2/1 at 9PM EST.

kuribo is V/LA until 2/1
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Post Post #4555 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:31 am

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In post 4552, kuribo wrote:
In post 4548, Ankamius wrote:I wonder if I'm being blindsided by kuribo or firebringer by how they're handling my slot

Calling you a dick for pointlessly making me voteless is hardly "handling" your slot.
cool

you've keep pointing it out so often that it's making me wonder whether you have other reasons for it
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Post Post #4556 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:31 am

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btw, show's over guys

nom is town
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Post Post #4557 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:38 am

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My initial read on nom wasn't bias, the switch to a scumread was bias since she had a different opinion of what Volpe was doing than I did.

her having virtually the same mindset when approaching my slot when I'm townreading her vs scumreading her is town indicative
her starting the game by provoking me into an aggressive engagement with her is town indicative
in general, my main issue with her this game has been how absurdly aggressive she's been approaching everybody this game and in the end, I think she's far more likely to just fall apart by now as scum rather than just progressively get more annoyed, upset, and frustrated

PLUS

I don't think I was wrong that there was mostly TvT engagements early on in the game
I don't think I was wrong that the Gif+Volpe vs nom neighborhood """""""fight""""""" looked worse on GIF than anybody else, at the very least that whatever the fuck people were up nom's ass for wasn't actually as AI as people were assuming

nom's playstyle is chaos and I've even pointed out in this thread before that she gets scumread really easily because of that, I think that's ultimately the cause of the metric fuckton of scumreads she's gotten all game and that's really the beginning and end of it
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Post Post #4558 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:40 am

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the current scumlist I'm working on is:

Almost50
DeasVail
EspressoPatronum
Flavor Leaf

I don't necessary think that every other slot is town (annoyingly this game is still hard enough to parse that the things I've looked for leads from has only gotten me ONE OTHER townread I can be confident on) but those four slots are the ones standing out to me the most at this point.
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Post Post #4559 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:41 am

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this is the part of the game where I have to go into assumptions I'm not entirely comfortable making to progress so ultimately this is where my analysis stops unless I find more angles to look for leads from
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Post Post #4560 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:41 am

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also the mod lost my vote somewhere, that's very rude
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Post Post #4561 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:42 am

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and yeah I flipped on DV again

it's mainly for that deal he made with me that he'd vote nom if I did and then switched to a really aggressive tone on it
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Post Post #4562 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:48 am

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Look ank I appreciate where you're coming from, but I'm not getting off of nom. Even if they're town aligned, they're dead weight that will be a liability at end game. And if they're scum, I'm not ok letting them cry a wagon off of them.

If you want to talk about DV tomorrow, I will be more than happy to though. I agree that his votes onto kuribo and then back into nom looked very bad.
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Post Post #4563 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:49 am

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In post 4556, Ankamius wrote:btw, show's over guys

nom is town
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Post Post #4564 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:50 am

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nom is also more readable towards endgame if you aren't all that familiar with her
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Post Post #4565 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:50 am

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thanks scumbringer
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Post Post #4566 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:53 am

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I am mostly disinterested in meta data because I play this game once every several months when someone asks me to help them out.

Specifically though nothing nom had some had been useful, and I don't foresee them suddenly becoming useful once they get to live another day. They have articulated a disinterest in being helpful and I don't see their reads and activity improving.

They should accept their played scummy, leave a list of reads for the town, and then eat the rope like a helpful VT.
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Post Post #4567 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:54 am

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oh right

this is one of those games
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Post Post #4568 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:55 am

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In post 4555, Ankamius wrote:
In post 4552, kuribo wrote:
In post 4548, Ankamius wrote:I wonder if I'm being blindsided by kuribo or firebringer by how they're handling my slot

Calling you a dick for pointlessly making me voteless is hardly "handling" your slot.
cool

you've keep pointing it out so often that it's making me wonder whether you have other reasons for it
I'll point out whatever I want as many times as I want and you'll not have shit to say about it

I mean at this point I "keep mentioning it" because it's kinda a meme between us at this point but if you wanna go another round where I take it seriously again by all means say so
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Post Post #4569 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:26 am

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Ank can tell you how much of a solve machine I get when we reach endgame.
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Post Post #4570 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:27 am

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Neat. Maybe if you demonstrate some of those skills now, I'll sixteen my position
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Post Post #4571 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:28 am

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Maybe you should discuss reads with me instead of whatever the fuck you're doing right now I swear to god your ISO is like 90% of "NOM IS SCUM SORRY I AM NOT MOVING OFF HER BYE"
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Post Post #4572 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:29 am

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I do think your slot is scummy btw, but I had a discussion with Ico and he thinks what DEB is doing is hiding behind a tunnel to get an easy mislynch and not getting scumread.
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Post Post #4573 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:34 am

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You're welcome to whichever opinions your would like. I'm going to continue doing whatever the fuck I'm doing right now
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Post Post #4574 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:40 am

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In post 4556, Ankamius wrote:btw, show's over guys

nom is town
UNVOTE: nomnomnom
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