White Flag - TM2020

[Cephrir]

What do you think about Dann, Cephrir?

He's probably town.

[CheekyTeeky]

What do your reads look like Cephrir?

[Cephrir]

I like NK spec but it seems pretty open and shut here.

Yeah you have a point on Kitty but I still disagree on Dunn as I think there were harder to lynch slots who weren't scumread at all.

I can't think of anyone who is both of those things.

[Dannflor]

Can you talk about why? Did Eddie start scumreading him too at this point?

The town read had become stale and I felt Hopkirk's trajectory regarding NSG was very bad. None of his content since that time has really inspired a town read in me.

I'm mostly disgusted with RC/North and irritated with the mod for enabling it despite prod rules. The lynch I absolutely agreed with as I fairly clearly said. I don't remember if I used the words I want to policy lynch this.

Eddie Cane's hot take is that Hopkirk tried to get NSG replaced, and failed. He mentioned this in https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11523485

Also from EC:

I don't mean this in a "you're scum/I want to kill you today" way, Cheeky, but a lot of your takes are whack to me. You keep saying the night kills have been weird when Kitty and Dunn were the most obvious town people in the game. Dunn gave, exactly, the same scum circle as me, and even pointed that out. The only difference here is that there was less overall paranoia around him than around Dann.

[CheekyTeeky]

I like NK spec but it seems pretty open and shut here.

Yeah you have a point on Kitty but I still disagree on Dunn as I think there were harder to lynch slots who weren't scumread at all.

I can't think of anyone who is both of those things.

Do you not qualify as someone hard to lynch who noone was scumreading? Do you think Dann is easy to lynch?

[Dannflor]

Hopkirk tried to get NSG replaced

partner!NSG*

if that wasn't clear

[Cephrir]

What do your reads look like Cephrir?

They havent changed in a while because I am not invested.

Town

Cheeky
Dann
Auro
BB
Dong???
FF
Turkey
Hopkirk

Untown

I'm doing a really bad job of caring about flips and recent info and, well, the game

[Dannflor]

Do you think Dann is easy to lynch?

I think after NSG's flip I was many degrees easier to lynch than Dunnstral.

[Cephrir]

I like NK spec but it seems pretty open and shut here.

Yeah you have a point on Kitty but I still disagree on Dunn as I think there were harder to lynch slots who weren't scumread at all.

I can't think of anyone who is both of those things.

Do you not qualify as someone hard to lynch who noone was scumreading? Do you think Dann is easy to lynch?

I think I might be possible to lynch eventually despite being a universal townread because I am not doing anything.

I think Dann is scumread by several people, especially prior to today.

[Cephrir]

Also I don't think scum are going to be afraid of the total lack of scumhunting I am currently doing.

[CheekyTeeky]

I've discussed in my team pt that the NKs were so universal it's hard to get a read. I don't think that means we shouldn't look for clues in both the NKs, perhaps I'm premature but NKs and VCAs will eventually out scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Also I don't think scum are going to be afraid of the total lack of scumhunting I am currently doing.

Why are you playing this way? Can you please try, it's making it really hard when a few of you just dgaf.

[Dannflor]

Cheeky, what's your read on FF?

[CheekyTeeky]

I think Dann is scumread by several people, especially prior to today.

Espeon was the only one aside from my misgivings and he dead now.

[CheekyTeeky]

FF is like Cephrir. Not playing enough to make this mountainous any easier.

[Dannflor]

pretty sure Dong and Gobble have both expressed suspicions about me

FF was scum reading me up until like half way through last day phase

[CheekyTeeky]

Actually yeah that's a point. I think I'm going to step back and see what scramble happens at deadline. You guys need to haul ass.

[Auro]

Eddie Cane's hot take is that Hopkirk tried to get NSG replaced, and failed.

Would've reflected in his D1 posting when NSG was wagoned multiple times, no?

[Auro]

You guys need to haul ass

No one's really bothered about the impending Hopkirk lynch. Wagon Gobbles

[Dannflor]

I still would want Dong or gobble over Hopkirk for the record

Still Dong at this point but I haven't gotten to my promised reread yet

[Cephrir]

Also I don't think scum are going to be afraid of the total lack of scumhunting I am currently doing.

Why are you playing this way? Can you please try, it's making it really hard when a few of you just dgaf.

I'm sorry >:

Maybe I'll be able to try at some point. Usually in games I don't care about there's at least some stuff I can be snarky about until something interesting happens but this one is just so dreadfully boring.

[Dannflor]

fwiw

I town read Cephrir's disinterest because I imagine a lot of teams with a D1 scum lynch in White Flag have considered this game a wrap

That really doesn't fix the problem of this game being boring to play but I get where it's coming from

[Auro]

It'll be interesting if you guys put Gob at L-1

[Auro]

Literally just bring people close to lynch and see how others react, this is White Flag

[CheekyTeeky]

Maybe we make it so boring people that don't want to play get force replaced.