Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

shos · Post Post #6675 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:30 pm

In post 6666, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6663, shos wrote:Respectfully concede, nice Lynch guys, didn't think it was a good one

Ico why are you scumreading me? What changed that made you like the xtomx vote suddenly?
I again go VOTE: xtomx ofc

I have input from my team from before the Lynch, perhaps this evening I'll get it posted. Have been postponed for like a week or more

Math why do you scumread me?
Because you scumslipped yesterday.

This post here also is terrible that over two days you don’t have a single read of your own? Really. Why is it all “your team”?

Did I say I don't have a read of my own.? Where did you get that from?

"My team" posted thoughts on the game about a week ago and I just had no motivation to start summarizing again.

shos · Post Post #6676 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:32 pm

Ya ok this is becoming high volume again I can't do this at work on phone so fuck off, I'll be back later

Iconeum · Post Post #6677 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:34 pm

Don't mind math, he's stuck this game.

It's pretty clear to everyone you had a big SR of your own, being Xtoxm. If he refuses to see that, it's on him.

@Math, you are pushing shos over an imaginary scumslip. Bad content ok, but that's NAI rather then scum!indicative. At least there's solving intent in his ISO, which is 100% lacking in Xtoxm (only slot that you can say that of).

Shos is also hard scumreading Xtoxm, so there's no reason for you to lynch shos if we can get good information about him by flipping Xtoxm first. You can reconsider your scumread if Xtoxm is scum, OR you get your lynch if Xtoxm is town.

shos · Post Post #6678 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:38 pm

Btw has anyone claimed D2 to have been neighbourized? If so that is probtown

Bellaphant · Post Post #6679 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:07 pm

Hi,

So that's a really weird kill, I was sure that scum would go after ico as a claimed doc. So I jail kept him last night to protect him.

I jailkept rce night one, which was why I was so waffly on my read yesterday - I thought he was town but the no kill really confused me.
It's also why j was less happy to just jump on 'we have two conf town'.
I'm outing this now as my role was only n1-2. Obviously there is a world in which rce and ico are both scum, mechanically.

@teacher, skitter, thoughts?

What do we make of Ari town casing saud after I was wanting to lynch him while we were wagoning shos?

Iconeum · Post Post #6680 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:10 pm

@math, one more argument why I'm really hesitant on shos today:

He didn't know about the claims and main events. If he was scum, he would know because scum PT. He would be more guided.
Right now you can't misrep him by saying he doesn't have reads, that's objectively untrue.

Xtoxm on the other hand has made it his objective to not have reads from the looks of it. Shos is at least coming out wiht reads.

Strongly urge you to reconsider your thoughts here.

Aristophanes · Post Post #6681 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:10 pm

In post 6678, shos wrote:Btw has anyone claimed D2 to have been neighbourized? If so that is probtown

I was also going to ask this.

If you were neighbourized by Saudade/Tris please speak up and elaborate on anything from the PT that could lead to a lynch.

I think shos is likely a better lynch than Xtoxm today but we shall see. I will look them back over and whatnot tho.

Xtoxm, what words do you have for us about this game now that we have a scum flip and we have RC out of the game and conftown? I'd love to get your thoughts on a lot of things and am unsure where to start, so how about a readslist and we'll go from there?

Iconeum · Post Post #6682 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:11 pm

In post 6679, Bellaphant wrote:ico as a claimed doc

i never claimed doc

Iconeum · Post Post #6683 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:13 pm

In post 6682, Iconeum wrote:
In post 6679, Bellaphant wrote:ico as a claimed doc
i never claimed doc

more specifically, i never claimed my full role

Iconeum · Post Post #6684 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:14 pm

Hi Ari, have a look at my 6680 if you please. It's applicable to anyone who feels shos is better lynch then xtoxm right now.

Iconeum · Post Post #6685 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:15 pm

In post 6679, Bellaphant wrote:I jailkept rce night one, which was why I was so waffly on my read yesterday - I thought he was town but the no kill really confused me. It's also why j was less happy to just jump on 'we have two conf town'. I'm outing this now as my role was only n1-2. Obviously there is a world in which rce and ico are both scum, mechanically.

What is your read on me, bella?

Aristophanes · Post Post #6686 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:15 pm

Bella!
Thanks for the claim, that's interesting.

Claims/flips so far are:
- Town Joat (Detective, Tracker, Motion Detector)
- Doctor
- Jailkeeper
- Scum Multitasking Neighbourizer

How do these fit in together?

Iconeum · Post Post #6687 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:16 pm

In post 6679, Bellaphant wrote:I jailkept rce night one, which was why I was so waffly on my read yesterday - I thought he was town but the no kill really confused me.

You do realize the implications you are saying here, right?

Iconeum · Post Post #6688 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:17 pm

I'm a simple doc btw

can only target vanilla roles

Iconeum · Post Post #6689 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:17 pm

*can only protect* vanilla roles

shos · Post Post #6690 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:18 pm

In post 6679, Bellaphant wrote:Hi,

So that's a really weird kill, I was sure that scum would go after ico as a claimed doc. So I jail kept him last night to protect him.

I jailkept rce night one, which was why I was so waffly on my read yesterday - I thought he was town but the no kill really confused me.
It's also why j was less happy to just jump on 'we have two conf town'.
I'm outing this now as my role was only n1-2. Obviously there is a world in which rce and ico are both scum, mechanically.

@teacher, skitter, thoughts?

What do we make of Ari town casing saud after I was wanting to lynch him while we were wagoning shos?

Since when are you a JK lol?
How was this not discussed? Ico is a protective, AND there's a JK, and now we also know there was a JOAT, town is stacked. And at least one scum was a useless neighboutizer role. Something isn't right.

In post 6681, Aristophanes wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php? p=11548373#p11548373]post 6678[/url], shos wrote:Btw has anyone claimed D2 to have been neighbourized? If so that is probtown
I was also going to ask this.

If you were neighbourized by Saudade/Tris please speak up and elaborate on anything from the PT that could lead to a lynch.

I think shos is likely a better lynch than Xtoxm today but we shall see. I will look them back over and whatnot tho.

Xtoxm, what words do you have for us about this game now that we have a scum flip and we have RC out of the game and conftown? I'd love to get your thoughts on a lot of things and am unsure where to start, so how about a readslist and we'll go from there?

Nononononono
Claiming now would not mean anything. Only if this was claimed BEFORE the flip does it make someone town.

Aristophanes · Post Post #6691 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:19 pm

In post 6688, Iconeum wrote:I'm a simple doc btw

can only target vanilla roles

In post 6689, Iconeum wrote:*can only protect* vanilla roles

Oooo that's neat actually!

In post 6684, Iconeum wrote:Hi Ari, have a look at my 6680 if you please. It's applicable to anyone who feels shos is better lynch then xtoxm right now.

I shall thanks

shos · Post Post #6692 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:20 pm

-read up-
Okok someone make order in this. What claims do we have?

Iconeum · Post Post #6693 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:21 pm

In post 6692, shos wrote:-read up-
Okok someone make order in this. What claims do we have?

this is literally like 5 posts above this one

Iconeum · Post Post #6694 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:21 pm

@Bella, any crumbs?

Iconeum · Post Post #6695 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:24 pm

In post 6686, Aristophanes wrote:Bella!
Thanks for the claim, that's interesting.

Claims/flips so far are:
- Town Joat (Detective, Tracker, Motion Detector)
- Doctor
- Jailkeeper
- Scum Multitasking Neighbourizer

How do these fit in together?

Me being a simple, doc, I think (with agreement of nomnom), that a scum strongman would balance this out nicely actually

Aristophanes · Post Post #6696 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:24 pm

In post 6690, shos wrote:Nononononono
Claiming now would not mean anything. Only if this was claimed BEFORE the flip does it make someone town.

I still want the claim if there is one to be made tho

Bellaphant · Post Post #6697 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:25 pm

I was only night 1 and 2, technically I was an alien but it worked as a jk. If icos town pr also has limits on it, that makes sense?
Ive been town reading you since day one ico, but you must be able to see why I'm a bit concerned right now.

Not masses, but I'll go back and find, ico

Iconeum · Post Post #6698 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:26 pm

math are you actually scum here?

are you scum who tried to stop saud from being lynched and are now doing the same with xtoxm?

If we lynch xtoxm today, and that flips scum, math is like ++scum with Bella's claim in play wtf

Iconeum · Post Post #6699 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:28 pm

In post 6697, Bellaphant wrote:I was only night 1 and 2, technically I was an alien but it worked as a jk. If icos town pr also has limits on it, that makes sense?
Ive been town reading you since day one ico, but you must be able to see why I'm a bit concerned right now.

Not masses, but I'll go back and find, ico

What concerns? I crumbed my action, I softed my (what I strongly thought was an inno), up until the point I was forced to out.
If you protected me, jailed me in fact, I think that should enforce your townread and not add doubts?