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Post Post #7100 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:28 pm

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In post 7099, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 7097, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6550, teacher wrote:
In post 6538, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6536, teacher wrote:I will vote as well. We have time to allow for a claim. Let’s get one.
intent to L-1 or hammer - whatever. Saud claim.
Just L-1 teacher. As conf town I will have hammer so day ends when town wants.
Because you said this and it isn’t true. I’m a stickler for accuracy (hence my round and rounds with RC on overstating and whether something was a reversal or wasn’t). You’ve said similar things before, and it’s not accurate and this time I felt like pointing it out, while at the same time sharing that I thought the distinction was not substantive/impt.
Also start here when teacher complains about me scumreading his shade
In the world you're considering right now. Which is that that I was blocked trying to kill RC.

Doesn't that make Teachers statement and subsequent argument all true?
Yes, but TMI

That’s like if 38 out of 39 hints point to X being town but what if you’re not? And the not is accurate, more likely than not the person had a reason.
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Post Post #7101 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:28 pm

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So it kinda lends credence to you and teacher together tried to kill RC
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Post Post #7102 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:30 pm

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As a vt claim teacher would have no such reason.

The shade day two I get

I am weird

But before then? Imho teacher was trying to plant a seed of doubt
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Post Post #7103 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:30 pm

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Day three I get*

Huzzah I still can’t count
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Post Post #7104 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:32 pm

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Spoiler: alphabetized soup
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Vote Count 3.4
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(4): MathBlade, Flopz, shos, Iconeum
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(2): skitter30, teacher

Not Voting (4): RCEnigma, Aristophanes, Bellaphant, Xtoxm

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Post Post #7105 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:03 pm

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In post 6914, RCEnigma wrote:Hey shos was Xtoxm claiming neighborized enough to move him out if your scumpool? Because that's really the only Xtoxm related thing you've commented on.

Do you think I'm more likely to make the kill than be the nk target? And how does that make me + math a viable team?
It hasn't affected my read on him
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Post Post #7106 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:07 pm

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I don't think Math + RCE makes a ton of sense right now
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Post Post #7107 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:37 pm

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In post 7100, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7099, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 7097, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6550, teacher wrote:
In post 6538, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6536, teacher wrote:I will vote as well. We have time to allow for a claim. Let’s get one.
intent to L-1 or hammer - whatever. Saud claim.
Just L-1 teacher. As conf town I will have hammer so day ends when town wants.
Because you said this and it isn’t true. I’m a stickler for accuracy (hence my round and rounds with RC on overstating and whether something was a reversal or wasn’t). You’ve said similar things before, and it’s not accurate and this time I felt like pointing it out, while at the same time sharing that I thought the distinction was not substantive/impt.
Also start here when teacher complains about me scumreading his shade
In the world you're considering right now. Which is that that I was blocked trying to kill RC.

Doesn't that make Teachers statement and subsequent argument all true?
Yes, but TMI

That’s like if 38 out of 39 hints point to X being town but what if you’re not? And the not is accurate, more likely than not the person had a reason.
Teacher TMI'ng that your town but not conf town seems counter intuitive.

I also don't see the need to plant that seed of doubt if Teacher is scum and knows saudade is flipping scum with you being very vocal and adamant he was town. That to me is a substantially stronger platform to push a math mislynch the next day. Does that make sense?
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Post Post #7108 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:51 pm

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Read up to 7000, ico very likely town, having second thoughts about xtomx due to the multitasking factor. Basically for xtomx to be lying scum woulda had to neighbor RC
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Post Post #7109 (ISO) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:55 pm

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In post 7088, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 7063, Iconeum wrote:ok let's assume we lynch RCE and that flips scum

who's the third?
Humor me and consider the converse for me. What changes when I flip town? What are your reads looking like in that case?
I want you to answer this first.

If we lynch you and you flip town

what would be your dying breath solve right now?
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Post Post #7110 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:06 am

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I targeted rce because they were sharing my thoughts at the end of day one. I didn't think scum would kill RC or math BC of the amount of conflict in the thread - rce seemed a fairly widely read town who was reasonable.

I was super null on Ari and lightly scum reading tris and having second thoughts on plum. Teachers iso day 1 was super null but they wanted the Ari lynch as much as I did so became town through their handling of that.

Skitter I could see being good enough to play this as scum. Ico was town, maybe I should have targeted ico, lol.

I really like rces play today tho? Their approach to me and my approach to them is super town and I dunno why 'caught' scum would be making the effor r
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Post Post #7111 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:08 am

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If that's your take, then all of xtoxm/math/rce town…

which means 2 scum in skitter/teacher?

i do'nt really like that solve?
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Post Post #7112 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:08 am

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oh yeah shos
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Post Post #7113 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:18 am

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Seriously? Teacher scummy? One of my firmest townreads
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Post Post #7114 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:19 am

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In post 7113, shos wrote:@
Seriously? Teacher scummy? One of my firmest townreads
i don't say i scumread teacher

but the PoE is what it is?

who's the scumteam, shos?
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Post Post #7115 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:21 am

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Let's see

Ico town / doc
Bella town / alien
Xtoxm probably town / being NB'd by scum
Math probs town
Shos ?
Skitter in discussion, I think town because of D2 saud lynch but still need to look into that - math strongly disagrees
RCE scum probably. But if this is town then??
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Post Post #7116 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:22 am

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that's from the top of my head

actual playerlist:

1.Mathblade Vorkuta
2.RCEnigma
3.Aristophanes
4.Iconeum
5.shos Plum
6.Bellaphant
7.Xtoxm
8.Flopz Thilbert
9.teacher
10.skitter30

So Ari isn't on my mind. Hmm.
Flopz is ++town.
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Post Post #7117 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:28 am

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In post 7093, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6896, teacher wrote:Vt - hadn’t claimed because I was in class not on phone.

I’d like RCE to go next.
In post 6905, teacher wrote:Driving shortly. Popcorn to ari
I wonder how RCE’s zero posts convinced Teacher to popcorn to Ari next
RCE claimed between these two posts.
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Post Post #7118 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:29 am

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In post 6901, RCEnigma wrote:VT. In the process of repairing an axle.
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Post Post #7119 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:31 am

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Ico/Bella
Flopz
Xtoxm/Shos
Math
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I have no clue where I'm placing Ari tbh
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Post Post #7120 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:31 am

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fuck, i don't even know how skitter ends up so low

replace skit with shos?
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Post Post #7121 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:33 am

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UNVOTE: math

I agree with Ico and this is purely by tone.

I want Ari because of my TvS read of the pair.

@RCE somewhere in my ketchup you said that was a one way ratchet. Which way, and why not the other?
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Post Post #7122 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:36 am

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Is trisaud/RCE/ari a solve that sounds legit?
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Post Post #7123 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:37 am

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I think they have +chance of using RCE as the killer on RC n1
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Post Post #7124 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:41 am

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In post 7091, MathBlade wrote:Teacher has a weird associative if RCE is scum
Where he literally understands the read of him+RCE and gets it
Then complains when I never elaborated
I understand it because I really like RCE so probably have positive tone around him, and I also have waffles on his slot (I was in the exact same boat as RC, weakly townreading but sheeping and viewing as a possible error vector).

My problem was not that you wouldn’t elaborate your read. I never asked you to do that. My problem was that you wouldn’t deal with me at all. You went from hard townreading me to scumreadinf me simply because I wouldn’t play drunk in a toxic cesspool, and then wouldn’t ask me questions AFTER I CAME BACK sober to try to get past your paranoia. Back then I had you as strong town and your refusal to engage (not elaborate, engage) was preventing us from working together.
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