Mini Normal 2114: Game Over

[Detective Pikachu]

Anyone wanna flash wagon Looker.

Nope

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, this is actually one of those games that scum is in the people who aren’t town reading me.

I haven’t been this blatantly town even when I was an IC.

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I’m masons with Bob. Move on

[Detective Pikachu]

Wait, but by boon logic does that mean you're claiming a guilty?

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No, I’ve only done that once.

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Why vote ank vissy?

Anyway I still have no problem with scum bob here

VOTE: bob

I agreed with fl's recent posts about her play

You my boy.

[Detective Pikachu]

where did you end up on fuzzy?

[Flavor Leaf]

Read the case

Bob and vizzy are probably scum together, their questions aren’t meant to sort anyone, it’s more like...they’re making people accuse other people, if that makes sense. They don’t have an actual stance on anything.

Bob’s questions are typical scum that wants to contribute without actually taking a stance on anything. I didn’t like how he tried to save Sala out of the dirt he placed himself. Mafia is a game of what people do, as much as what people don’t do. He didn’t hop on sala and even tried to help him by expounding on his read even though he made a terrible vote on Wimpy at some point.

I can probably make a case at some time where I pick each post apart, but I don’t think it’s necessary. Try and skim through Bob’s questions and vizzy’s and you’ll probably come to the same conclusion. Their questions aren’t really meant to sort anyone, they both have “leading questions” meaning, they are guiding someone to an answer, which scum use a lot more than town.

Bob has asked 10000 questions but didn’t manage to form any reads based off them. He keeps asking questions that he doesn’t follow up on, because he knows everyone’s alignment and doesn’t care to truly sort them. There’s no real, organic progression to anything in bob’s reads. Granted I stopped at like page 20 but still.

And ank, I can’t believe you actually scum read gtj there lol. If he comes back, is 5-5 leading wagons with his scum buddy, why does he unvote and rethink it all instead of aiming for an anti-spew here?

UNVOTE: Ank
I need to think about this...cause right now Ank is pinging town a little bit .

UNVOTE:

Ugh. The LAMIST worked.

Looks like I’m gonna have to bring up the trajectories of her posts again

[Detective Pikachu]

Invisibility, SausasaurusRex, TheFuzzylogic99, bob3141, Gjt, Pine/joges

Who out of this list would you Bet 1000 Boon Bucks on being town, not from mech bullshit or pre-flip associatives but just on play?

[Flavor Leaf]

Fuzzy’s town, Ank scum.

Invisibility/Kanna slot can be scum with Ank, but idk if they make sense without. Maybe 1 not both

[Flavor Leaf]

Invisibility, SausasaurusRex, TheFuzzylogic99, bob3141, Gjt, Pine/joges

Who out of this list would you Bet 1000 Boon Bucks on being town, not from mech bullshit or pre-flip associatives but just on play?

Rex, Bob, Gjt.

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Spoiler:

lmao nomnomnom is town

nice

alright i'm done here, that's more than enough effort for one day.

omnom rex gjt invis are potential scum for me right now

let me know who you're townreading omnom, and please elaborate your scumread on me if it still there outside of the salsa vote

@gjt: what's your opinion of rex so far this game?

I think what you posted reads more town. Wimpy's slot is town imo so Ank must be town. I read FL as town. I don't recognize Bob's posts as belonging to his scumgame, he's much more assertive here, so slight town lean.

I'm not sold on your Gjt scumlean.

I think joges or invis is where it's at, despite invis being lolrandom because if there's any day to deal with this, it's day 1 imo.

Looking back, I don’t think Nomnom bussed indirectly here. It’s unnecessary. I reread her conversation with Nicholai, and they were trying to work Nicholai. Invisibility mixed in with genuineness and being at the wrong place at the wrong time looks like they were setup to look scummy. I think Invis is town.

Joges was also town read by Nich in a good way, so I think I’m good with it. Nomnom wants to get sold on Gjt, so it happens then a wagon forms.

Bob/Wimpy slot look like where Nomnom would mention scum partners, tbh.

So Ank must be town and insistence that Wimpy looks townie looks really bad in hindsight too.

Do you TR ankamius like you TR wimpy?

i townread the slot, slight town pings from Ank calling omnom town in the way she did it but otherwise nothing on her

lmao nomnomnom is town

nice

i know it's slightly contradictory to read this post as town and then question it, but i'm TRing it's tone(?) rather than the read itself. why did you call omnom town after her interaction with gjt? can her frustration not come from scum?

Nom tends to struggle keeping her tone and thought processes consistent with each other as scum

She's already showing consistency

Another.

Spoiler:

Ank, who am I sheeping?

Ank, who am I sheeping?

why are you asking me this

Why no answer rather than the question of you being asked?

Bear in mind, I thought your predecessor was scum.

because that came out of left field and the way I answer it changes based on context???

that can be interpreted as you pushing me saying you sheeped someone, but I never did
that can be interpreted as you asking me who you should sheep, but I never indicated being that into the game yet
that can be interpreted as you asking me to go into my townreads... I guess? but that's still a weird interpretation when it comes out of nowhere

all three of those give very different answers and depending on my mood I can interpret it in any of those three ways

Why is it out of left field?
Maybe that’s just where I’ve been lurking around while you all play baseball, a dying sport.

I think it’s a fair question to ask of the player who replaced the slot I was pushing

and yes the fact that you're scumreading my slot makes it even more ??? to me

Oh, I don’t plan on explaining to you the context prior to your answer. That’s essentially the entire point of asking you.

As much as I dislike it VOTE: Gjt

Not much time and there's a chance this push on me is scummy with the really bad reasoning so it's worth pursuing. Invis is never going to pick off so yeah.

and yes the fact that you're scumreading my slot makes it even more ??? to me

Why? I’m a giant reactionary player, and I both A) create gamestate wide reactions, and B) elicit reactions from specific players.

I’m helpful to the core engine of a game to progress, even whilst barely attending.

Still hated this exchange from Ank. Also, Nomnom tried to distract right in the middle of it by pushing to Gjt.

oh hey salamence was town too

I will purely be judging everyone on their actions on this game because I'm too lazy nor have the time to go check up on the history of everyone. Maybe its something I can pick up after a few more games here.

I will probably be playing in a way which you won't like and will observe a lot more before posting as a lot of what I see is basing current posts from previous games.

From what I've seen if Nicolai is Town probably won't last long because from experience Scum tend to hate active Townies. Chances are we will mislynch D1 unless someone seriously slips which is why scum often stay quiet D1 (not helping myself there) they'll spread their votes across Town. Not sure how many you usually get on a team here, but one I expect to vote/push one of their team mates. A lot of this phase is keeping track of the votes and who people chop and change too.

I don't have any strong leads yet, maybe a couple now leaning a little towards Town, but as said previously in my mind you are all Scum until you have convinced me otherwise

this is one of the most political things I've ever seen in a mafia game

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Jacku replaced by Salamence20* nomnomnom

Invisibility

Wimpy Ankamius

SausasaurusRex

TheFuzzylogic99

Kanna

Nicholai

joges

bob3141

pisskop replaced by Looker

Non lmh

Gjt*

p10 reads

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

this is always the funniest answer to any situation

What another incredibly rough trajectory from Ankamius. Played the me vote as a joke, but it came right after I voted for Nomnom, and I’m nulled on the list.

Also the Gjt political post in hindsight’s rough.

If Nomnom didn’t get flipped this wouldn’t have looked bad yet either, but even the Salamence was town is poor.

Spoiler:

now you see why I would call invisibility lynchbaity

scum invisibility
town invisibility

those two games are almost a year apart though, and the scum one was 2 months after he joined the site. i wouldn't put much stock into that.

oh wow one day VOTE: gtj

ok honestly
VOTE: rex

What caused you to change your stance on me? You townread me earlier and didn't explain what changed your mind.

not that many days and no one I really strongly scumread more

oh wow one day VOTE: gtj

These don't match up. If I was your top scumread, why would you vote Gjt?

Gjt’s town. Obv mislynch is obv. He’s a compromise wagon because deadline

Scum is on that wagon

Scum doesn’t gain anything from bussing a partner here, and by no means should that ever go through if he is actually scum in that case.

People are voting him because they don’t know who to vote. We don’t have a lot of info in the game yet, so it shows that the Gjt lynch is something that scum are 100% okay with happening.

He’s not scum.

I can’t recall a single on of their posts. This is entirely based on the sociological gamestate

what's happening

This could be scum.

With Nomnom/Invisibility.

On the fence with Ankamius.

My invisibility scum read relies on NomnomScum, which I’m about 90% sure of. Positioning, general stance on the game.

I feel they have a grasp on more of the game than they are letting off.

Oooooo, yes.

Ankamius saving Invisibility possibly whom Nicholai was going after 2nd. Then the Gjt wagon pops up.

It’s likely Ankamius and Invisibility then.

@DP - you said Nom’s instinct is to bus? Then I’m 100% correct here. They bussed Invisibility once they started going down.

Looker
Nicholai
Fuzzy
Rex

Non
Joges
Bob
Gjt

Invisibility
Kanna
Ankamius

Nomnom

My way too early prediction is actually Nomnom/Ankamius/Kanna, with Kanna being able to be replaced with one my Tier 3’s or Invisibility.

Ankamius is chainsawing me and avoiding questions, and I actually think I can bring her down a tier in between Nom and the others.

Wimpy was scum.

Bring GJT up to the top one and Looker to the bottom of the top one, and this is essentially where I’m at.

Spoiler:

Now, my friends, my enemies, my yet to be acquainted, my comrades of the town of Mini Normal 2114, I ask of you, nay, I beg of you, to bring this amalgamation onto the head of which is to be eating like an Attack on some large, behemoth of a creature, or a Titan if you will, and band together with me as we execute the scummy Nomnomnom. I know I have yet to gain your complete trust, but allow me to lead this town into the dragon’s pit. I will slice the head off myself, I will die for you, and if luck y’all may have it, I would even

live

for you.

Put aside these petty differences, and let’s make today, January 18th of the year two thousand and twenty, a day you shan’t forget!

Execute Nomnomnom.

umm, no.....

even if you are town I do not trust your reads. I have no idea what you are which makes me trust you even less

umm, no.....

even if you are town I do not trust your reads. I have no idea what you are which makes me trust you even less

Bring this down a tier.

If you’d rather push the soft claimed PR rather than likely scum, this is 100% a distraction rn for the sake of distracting

nomnomnom (4): gjt, looker, flavor leaf, nicholai

This is an obvious all town wagon...sure, you can take me out of the equation here in that sense, but if I were scum here, I’d have scum partners to join this wagon. And also, Gjt sifted PR. Unless GJT and I are scum together, it makes zero sense for me to not let him get lynched.

Lynch.

Nomnomnom.

How to avoid a lynch: just say you're a PR and town will inevitably change their perspective lol

If we aren't lynching Gjt I'm going on Invis.

VOTE: Kanna

I wonder how FL would react if my vote went on Invis right now

I wonder how FL would react if my vote went on Invis right now

I was already assuming you were setting up distancing from your partner before I pushed you tbh

One of invisib/Kanna is likely scum

She’s scum dude, get over it

You want scum games of mine to read? To see if it looks like anything here? There's a reason why Ank townreads me here. Just saying.

Spoiler:

Maybe you should quit?

bye

really looker

VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

Jeez Louise Finch, Looker, that was completely unnecessary. you don't fight toxicity with more toxicity.

@DP - Come on now...look at this exchange. this Gjt vote is scum.

if it helps

I'm blake

oh hey
Explain why gbt is scum so I'll have a valid reason to vote my counter wagon

Oh my freaking god.

DP, you just want Ankamius to be town, and you have nothing.

Oi...

It’s Ankamius and Invisibility.

Looker is still a possibility, but I don’t really think so.

VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

This. Is NOT town.

This is absolutely trash timing and had the potential to save Nomnom.

The fact you even consider this a townie vote completely nullfies any credit you can have with it.

if it helps

I'm blake

oh hey
Explain why gbt is scum so I'll have a valid reason to vote my counter wagon

VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

What leaves you certain enough that gjt is scum that you are happy to risk lynching a potential town pr. Do you beleive his pr claim or think that its fiction?

Or is it more of case you rather have lynch on another player. As you were voting kanna before you vote. A player on the same wagon as you now that you highlighted in red along side gjt and Nicholai.

1. general scumread
2. a lot of the game is a townread
3. the way he softed looks like scum trying to save themselves rather than a town pr trying to save themselves

Oozing scum.

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just comes across to me as ank trying to shade flav.

It was. It was indeed. Idk how anyone sees Bob’s post as scum tbh. He’s so townie.

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Plus the Ank/FL reads are just super awkward to be coming from scum, I feel he genuinely feels that way, and in fact, Ank flips scum, he’s right.

this is like

aggressively bad FL

AGGRESSIVELY bad

That little side push. If she was town i would of thought she woudl said somethign around teh lines of bad town push. Maybe somethign got lost in translation of the net

I was suprised to see ank make such a sujestion even if it was just passing remark

Ftr this post is really town

Then they go ahead and vote Bob.

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UNVOTE: Ank
I need to think about this...cause right now Ank is pinging town a little bit .

I mean, I actually feel like there’s some Ank/Fuzzy scum team merit

[Detective Pikachu]

Fuzzy’s town, Ank scum.

Invisibility/Kanna slot can be scum with Ank, but idk if they make sense without. Maybe 1 not both

Insomnia took Kanna's slot, not Invisibility

[Flavor Leaf]

I migth not be one to spell out my read list

yeah you don't have to, my point is that you never have an organic progression on anything, you just ask questions for the gist of it. The only stances that you take are on specific posts, like FL's, but your questions aren't leading you to make a read.

aight be back later peeps

FL vote bob stop tunneling Ank let's go

Bob and I have like the exact same reads, and he explains them far better than even I do.

He’s town.

[Detective Pikachu]

Invisibility/Kanna slot can be scum with Ank

in a world where boon wasn't already IC in my mind, this would be strongly anti-associative for boon+invis/kanna

[Flavor Leaf]

Fuzzy’s town, Ank scum.

Invisibility/Kanna slot can be scum with Ank, but idk if they make sense without. Maybe 1 not both

Insomnia took Kanna's slot, not Invisibility

I meant it like

Invisibility/Insomnia can be scum with Ank. One of em

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insomnia read on me is almost as bad but at least it has more effort. Which is something scum tend to do when pushing their cases. When there really isn't anything behind it.

It amounts to bob asks questions. Bob in no game he has ever played has provided his reads unless asked or in day 4-5 solve. Thus he must of been scum in all his games. At Least insomnia has never played with me before so it could easily be him simply scum reading my play style in general.

Oh bob bounces all over the place. Look at my first game on this site and you will see how much I can bounce around.

Yeah, actually this looks like that one time I rolled scum with Insomnia, not gonna lie.

It’s Ankamius and Insomnia.

[Flavor Leaf]

Insomnia’s hard protecting scumAnkamius in day thread in a gamestate fashion.

It’s similar to how I played when I was scum protecting Insomnia. (That game actually got Ras’d up, Insomnia) even though I was double guiltied i still didn’t get killed until that Ras guy showed up.

[Detective Pikachu]

I feel like from what you're saying Vissy is like the only read I'd consider compromising on and even then I wouldn't really feel great about it

[Flavor Leaf]

No, you are misinterpreting everything. My point is that you are not interested in discerning anyone's alignment from your questions.

I love riling up scum, they don't understand the method that I'm using here because nobody ever uses it. They always say my case is weak and trash, but they don't even know what my case is trying to say.

Which also makes them even more scummy, because they post from the mentality of "I'm scum but your reasoning sucks" rather than the town mentality of "I'm town why the fuck are you being so dumb"

So what your sayign is you genuinely cant see how my methods work. If you are town it wouldnt be first time a player has misread how i play.

If you are genuine then clear you have reads on all players and i would be very interested to see them. As it will help be determine which of the two you are

Hot damn. This is exactly the type of posts Bob makes as town, specifically in Mafia A La Mode, and I put my all into arguing and twisting the game state through him.

Insomnia has a FL style scum game based on that early scum game he had with me, mixed in with similar playstyle in general.

The Bob interaction is actually incredibly scum indicative because that’s exactly what I did on Pretentious to Bob.

[Detective Pikachu]

I guess you have fuzzy moving in and out too but I get the sense you just have no idea what his alignment is and are focusing on people you actively scumread

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel like from what you're saying Vissy is like the only read I'd consider compromising on and even then I wouldn't really feel great about it

I wouldn’t be 1k Boob Bucks on Invisibility, but he’s the only other of those slots I’d put some Boon Bucks on, so i don’t really want Invisibility.

The team is either Ankamius/Insomnia or Ankamius/Fuzzy, leaning through former.