Newbie 1982 | Cellular Automata | Over

[TrueSoulEnergy]

NGL If Luca was mod Confirmed Town I’d tell him and I’d vote GB just to show him that he’s wrong about all this.
Then again, that’ll probably be a miss lynch so that’s not a good thing.
But at least it’ll show Luca that he needs to re-evaluate me. (Assuming He’s Town)

[Luca Blight]

Why does TSE keep emphasizing the fact he had three votes, as if it makes him less likely to be scum or something?

His two SR's both currently have 3 votes - does that make them less likely to be scum as well?

By all means you can view me as scum, but understand this. Your voting me for 2 Reasons. 1) The Mason Claim 2)Events that happened because of the fact you didn’t like the mason claim

What is the point of this comment? Are you trying to undermine my reasons for SR'ing you?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I continue to dislike George's play. He spent the entire game posturing over TSE, and is currently coasting on the Chaz wagon despite not having much of a stance on him. George is being really cautious and it seems like he's waiting to see what happen before he commits himself.

The way he's acting around the TSE wagon leads me to believe they are either partners and he's excusing himself from TSE's wagon while avoiding openly defending him, or he's afraid of creating too much conflict with TSE.

Who’s your strongest Town read?
Bugs and Chaz I’m assuming?

I'm TR'ing Chuck, Bugs and Chaz right now.

Mhm
Of course you are.
I’m sure if Volxen and TLOK were in Top Wagons you’d Town read them too right?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Why does TSE keep emphasizing the fact he had three votes, as if it makes him less likely to be scum or something?

His two SR's both currently have 3 votes - does that make them less likely to be scum as well?

By all means you can view me as scum, but understand this. Your voting me for 2 Reasons. 1) The Mason Claim 2)Events that happened because of the fact you didn’t like the mason claim

What is the point of this comment? Are you trying to undermine my reasons for SR'ing you?

I’m saying You looking in the wrong place.

[Luca Blight]

@TSE, in case you missed this:

Why do you find George the most towny out of the three people that were on your wagon (George, Bugs, Luca)?

What are your thoughts on Luca? You’ve mainly focused on George and Bugs from your wagon.

I answered the first question before. If you are too lazy to read my ISO just ask me to repeat it.
As for the second question I think Luca is

my buddy

probably miss guided town or desperate scum.
Although out of the 3 of them their content is the best done. However I still think GB is most Town over them by their response to my wagon.

Please explain why I would be desperate scum in this scenario?

[Luca Blight]

I continue to dislike George's play. He spent the entire game posturing over TSE, and is currently coasting on the Chaz wagon despite not having much of a stance on him. George is being really cautious and it seems like he's waiting to see what happen before he commits himself.

The way he's acting around the TSE wagon leads me to believe they are either partners and he's excusing himself from TSE's wagon while avoiding openly defending him, or he's afraid of creating too much conflict with TSE.

Who’s your strongest Town read?
Bugs and Chaz I’m assuming?

I'm TR'ing Chuck, Bugs and Chaz right now.

Mhm
Of course you are.
I’m sure if Volxen and TLOK were in Top Wagons you’d Town read them too right?

Wtf is this misrep?

I've explained my reasons for all my reads. You're the one who seems like desperate scum right now.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@TSE, in case you missed this:

Why do you find George the most towny out of the three people that were on your wagon (George, Bugs, Luca)?

What are your thoughts on Luca? You’ve mainly focused on George and Bugs from your wagon.

I answered the first question before. If you are too lazy to read my ISO just ask me to repeat it.
As for the second question I think Luca is

my buddy

probably miss guided town or desperate scum.
Although out of the 3 of them their content is the best done. However I still think GB is most Town over them by their response to my wagon.

Please explain why I would be desperate scum in this scenario?

Using something like “Bad, You Mason Claim”
To desperately form the first wagon of the game.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I continue to dislike George's play. He spent the entire game posturing over TSE, and is currently coasting on the Chaz wagon despite not having much of a stance on him. George is being really cautious and it seems like he's waiting to see what happen before he commits himself.

The way he's acting around the TSE wagon leads me to believe they are either partners and he's excusing himself from TSE's wagon while avoiding openly defending him, or he's afraid of creating too much conflict with TSE.

Who’s your strongest Town read?
Bugs and Chaz I’m assuming?

I'm TR'ing Chuck, Bugs and Chaz right now.

Mhm
Of course you are.
I’m sure if Volxen and TLOK were in Top Wagons you’d Town read them too right?

Wtf is this misrep?

I've explained my reasons for all my reads. You're the one who seems like desperate scum right now.

Yes because I am clearly trying to lynch you, oh no wait. Earn your trust and attempt puppet.
Right?

[Luca Blight]

NGL If Luca was mod Confirmed Town I’d tell him and I’d vote GB just to show him that he’s wrong about all this.
Then again, that’ll probably be a miss lynch so that’s not a good thing.
But at least it’ll show Luca that he needs to re-evaluate me. (Assuming He’s Town)

This is hilarious. You're basically open-wolfing right now.

[Luca Blight]

@TSE, in case you missed this:

Why do you find George the most towny out of the three people that were on your wagon (George, Bugs, Luca)?

What are your thoughts on Luca? You’ve mainly focused on George and Bugs from your wagon.

I answered the first question before. If you are too lazy to read my ISO just ask me to repeat it.
As for the second question I think Luca is

my buddy

probably miss guided town or desperate scum.
Although out of the 3 of them their content is the best done. However I still think GB is most Town over them by their response to my wagon.

Please explain why I would be desperate scum in this scenario?

Using something like “Bad, You Mason Claim”
To desperately form the first wagon of the game.

Why would scum desperately want to form the first wagon of the game? How often is the first wagon immediately pushed through? Hardly ever.

You're trying to talk me round to TR'ing you while at the same time misrepping me/throwing shade in my direction in the event that I don't change my read on you (which I won't).

[Luca Blight]

I continue to dislike George's play. He spent the entire game posturing over TSE, and is currently coasting on the Chaz wagon despite not having much of a stance on him. George is being really cautious and it seems like he's waiting to see what happen before he commits himself.

The way he's acting around the TSE wagon leads me to believe they are either partners and he's excusing himself from TSE's wagon while avoiding openly defending him, or he's afraid of creating too much conflict with TSE.

Who’s your strongest Town read?
Bugs and Chaz I’m assuming?

I'm TR'ing Chuck, Bugs and Chaz right now.

Mhm
Of course you are.
I’m sure if Volxen and TLOK were in Top Wagons you’d Town read them too right?

I mean like this ^

I say I TR Bugs Chuck and Chaz (which if you look at my ISO you'll see is consistent with what I've said) but you try to paint it as insincere because two of them happen to be the top wagons? Why am I TR'ing Chuck, in that case?

It's a baseless insinuation, and only serves to try and discredit what I'm saying against you in an underhanded manner.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.09

Rule 45

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

chazary

(3): Chuck Shurley, GeorgeBailey, bugspray

bugspray

(3): TrueSoulEnergy, chazary, JacksonVirgo

TrueSoulEnergy

(1): Luca Blight

Not Voting

(2): TheLordOfKittens, volxen

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-02-07 18:00:00).

Mod notes:

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[Plotinus]

Chuck Shurley^0.5 has been nudged^{Rule 13}.

[bugspray]

Using something like “Bad, You Mason Claim”
To desperately form the first wagon of the game.

early day 1 wagons are usually there to help quickly end rvs and get people talking. your use of the word "desperately" either demonstrates a lack of understanding of what's going on or is an attempt to use your status of Semi Experienced to intentionally mislead more newbie townies

VOTE: TLOK i want you to post TLOK

[bugspray]

@TLOK

[bugspray]

oh the quoote didnt work LOL

[bugspray]

@TLOK do you have any reads? what do you think about the players in this game? how do you FEEL about them?

also you should go to the front page and answer those questions to help us get more informed reads on you

[Plotinus]

TheLordOfKittens² has been prodded and has (expired on 2020-02-04 08:48:35) to post before I start looking for a replacement.

[chazary]

Since you like hopping on wagons so much I’ll hop on yours

VOTE: bugspray

I'm not caught up yet but this is a ridiculous omgus

Not quite. I am actually scumreading you based on how you hop onto wagons very easily and then off of them when they don't build as quickly as you might want them to.

I'd love to put tse at l-1 but I want at least a few days of posting with all the players before we do that. People really love to be like oh no l1 but if you're confident in your read the worst case scenario is a bus lulhammer but in newbie I think the l1 fear is more justified

I don't understand the point of this. So you're confident about your read on TSE but don't want to L-1 him yet. And then you try and convince the rest of us why we shouldn't be afraid of L-1ing if we're confident in our reads. Like, yeah but who says any of us are confident in our reads. And we're probably all thinking the same thing as far as waiting for more activity from other players. So why feel the need to urge others to L-1 someone?

Also, on top of everything you just seem very combative in almost all of your responses to people.

[chazary]

As far as my townreads go I'm definitely still pretty confident on Luca and Chuck.

Luca has been giving me town vibes just from his posts and his his questions toward TSE.

Chuck hasn't been very active lately but his meta reading of me reads very town. Can't imagine scum going all the way back to a past game to find one little thing about my mafia experience to question me about.

[chazary]

Also now that JV has been more active I can say I'm leaning town on them. I can't imagine why they would defend TSE so much in any scenario beside them being town. If JV was on a scumteam w TSE then defending them so openly would surely risk their stance in the game. And if JV was scum w someone else then why would they defend the biggest scumread of the game so far.

[Luca Blight]

Regarding the last line, you’d be surprised how much that happens.

[Luca Blight]

I can get why you SR Bugs, Chaz, but wagon-hopping isn’t that big of a scumtell. Posturing in the manner displayed by TSE is far more calculated and scummy, and I feel he is a much better lynch for today.

[Luca Blight]

Wagon-hopping early game is actually a pro-Town move most of the time, as it generates information. Scum are more likely to be hesitant in hopping to different wagons as they’re more self-conscious and don’t want to get called-out on it.

Obviously there are distinctions to this. For example, the manner of George’s hop onto the Chaz wagon felt a lot worse than Bugs’.

[bugspray]

I don't understand the point of this. So you're confident about your read on TSE but don't want to L-1 him yet. And then you try and convince the rest of us why we shouldn't be afraid of L-1ing if we're confident in our reads. Like, yeah but who says any of us are confident in our reads. And we're probably all thinking the same thing as far as waiting for more activity from other players. So why feel the need to urge others to L-1 someone?

Putting someone at l-1 even if they flip scum and getting an early night is still not an optimal situation for town. We have a lot of quiet slots who we should want to hear more from before the deadline ends.

Also, on top of everything you just seem very combative in almost all of your responses to people.

Almost all of my responses to people are because one of us scumreads another and thats just sort of how it goes a lot of the time. Maybe other people do it differently but my personality works this way.