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[chazary]

Putting someone at l-1 even if they flip scum and getting an early night is still not an optimal situation for town. We have a lot of quiet slots who we should want to hear more from before the deadline ends.

Yeah I agree. That's why I didn't understand your "don't be afraid of putting someone at L-1" comment. I don't think anyone is afraid. It's just too early. But the way it read to me was that you were pushing someone to do so without it having to be you.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.10

Rule 75

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

bugspray

(3): TrueSoulEnergy, chazary, JacksonVirgo

chazary

(2): Chuck Shurley, GeorgeBailey

TheLordOfKittens

(1): bugspray

TrueSoulEnergy

(1): Luca Blight

Not Voting

(2): TheLordOfKittens, volxen

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-02-07 18:00:00).

Mod notes:

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[bugspray]

Chuck hasn't been very active lately but his meta reading of me reads very town. Can't imagine scum going all the way back to a past game to find one little thing about my mafia experience to question me about.

Why would town do this and not scum?

[Chuck Shurley]

@Mod I need to drop. Unexpected work obligations are adding up to a 60+ hour week. I appreciate the chance and hope to be back to play a real game soon.

Sorry guys. I swear it was looking good and I was super excited to get back into this. I'll be back at another time.

[Plotinus]

Chuck Shurley has requested replacement. Searching...

[Plotinus]

Aloratom replaces Chuck Shurley! Please welcome him!

[bugspray]

Can you please answer my rqs on page 1?

[Aloratom]

Promise I'll have some thoughts in the next day or so, but first:

Can you please answer my rqs on page 1?

Why would I answer them if you want me to feel shifty?

Probably my rqs
And it's meant to make people feel shifty

Are you getting scum reads and town reads out of making people feel shifty or something else? Did you get anyone to squirm this game? Has this been successful in the past?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Regarding the last line, you’d be surprised how much that happens.

I agree with this.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I can get why you SR Bugs, Chaz, but wagon-hopping isn’t that big of a scumtell. Posturing in the manner displayed by TSE is far more calculated and scummy, and I feel he is a much better lynch for today.

Then answer me this.
Since your so keen on me being scum.
How would I have acted towards the situation I was in (Mason Claim, 3 Votes on me) if I was Town?
Or better yet. How would have you acted?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

And I refuse to accept “Mason Claim = Instant Scum” as an answer.

[Luca Blight]

I was referring to your interaction with Chaz, not the Mason claim.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Since you like hopping on wagons so much I’ll hop on yours

VOTE: bugspray

Let me ask you this.
Why shouldn’t I vote you?
I mean, your claiming me and Bugs are SvS.
So if Bugs flips Scum your trying to make it as if you are the Town and I could still easily be scum.
Here’s another good question.
What makes you more Town then me and Bugs?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@GB who’s your biggest scum read? Is it still me?
@Bugs @Luca Other then Myself, who else do you scum read?

This just kind of reads like youre trying to shift focus away from yourself. And then your post following it is just... random nonsense.

WRONG.
I’m trying to figure out their individual alignment and thoughts towards others.
There is only 2 mafia in the format meaning if mafia for some reason both voted me, the last guy is still Town.
And you claim I’m “shifting focus away from myself”
When In actuality, I’m trying to solve this game as well as prevent my own miss lynch from occurring.
Thus why I want to get as much information as I can so we don’t end up miss lynching today.
If we do end up Miss Lynch today, I would like to at least partly confirm a mafia via the miss lynch.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@GB who’s your biggest scum read? Is it still me?
@Bugs @Luca Other then Myself, who else do you scum read?

This just kind of reads like youre trying to shift focus away from yourself. And then your post following it is just... random nonsense.

WRONG.
I’m trying to figure out their individual alignment and thoughts towards others.
There is only 2 mafia in the format meaning if mafia for some reason both voted me, the last guy is still Town.
And you claim I’m “shifting focus away from myself”
When In actuality, I’m trying to solve this game as well as prevent my own miss lynch from occurring.
Thus why I want to get as much information as I can so we don’t end up miss lynching today.
If we do end up Miss Lynch today, I would like to at least partly confirm a mafia via the miss lynch.

mislynch doesnt even sound like a word anymore

it wasn't so much you asking for reads as it was the way you went about it. @ing only the people on your wagon and including "is it still me?"/"other than myself". Sounds like you're more concerned about where you fall in their reads than you do about actually knowing what they are

It can be solved by PoE which is what I was trying to do.
As I said that quick vote on me made me feel uneasy about the 3 of them all being Town.

Another question.
If you scum read me before why didn’t you jump on My wagon but jumped on Bugs?
The only actual reasoning I can think of is maybe you didn’t want to put me at 4 votes but still.
Other then that what made you not vote against me?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Another question.
If you scum read me before why didn’t you jump on My wagon but jumped on Bugs?
The only actual reasoning I can think of is maybe you didn’t want to put me at 4 votes but still.
Other then that what made you not vote against me?

Well basically just like you said, I wasn't about to put you at L-1 that quickly and risk a myslynch

Let me ask you this.
Why shouldn’t I vote you?
I mean, your claiming me and Bugs are SvS.
So if Bugs flips Scum your trying to make it as if you are the Town and I could still easily be scum.
Here’s another good question.
What makes you more Town then me and Bugs?

Why are you assuming that someone having two scum reads on D1 means they must think they’re a scum team?

For example, I have a SR on you and to a lesser extent George, but do I consider you as a scumteam? I haven’t even begun to consider it. Why? Because it’s D1, and making associations pre-flip is rarely a productive thing to do.

The ‘why shouldn’t I vote you?’ line rubs me up the wrong way, feels like posturing.

And the last question isn’t good at all, it’s entirely pointless in fact. Since when does someone have to explain why they are more Town than someone in order to vote that person? Towncasing yourself is usually always pointless anyway.

Exactly what Luca said. I never said you and bugs are together. In fact, my reads on both of you kind of contradict. If bugs were to flip scum, my read on you might change actually, and vice versa.

Didn’t even read this TBH.
That last part seems genuine.
As for the first part, it can be faked but it can also be legit so I’ll rate it Null.
The more I read Luca the more I like it.
If he’s scum it’s definitely going to be hard to get him to slip or catch him in lies.
I think what your saying Luca is “You can have as many scum Reads as you want day 1 (to a reasonable extent) it’s not as if they are all mafia but rather the potential to be mafia and thus a flip can help PoE. Which of course I get.
Also NGL if Chaz and Luca are the scum team. We already lost.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I still keep feeling as if Luca’s trying to thunderdome me.

[Luca Blight]

More unsubstantiated accusation.

Thunderdome means make it a 1v1 between two players, right? I have been doing the exact opposite: I TR the two current wagons, and only want you lynched today.

[bugspray]

Luca do you have any other scumreads?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

More unsubstantiated accusation.

Thunderdome means make it a 1v1 between two players, right? I have been doing the exact opposite: I TR the two current wagons, and only want you lynched today.

Well I’m trying to say that you won’t stop until I’m lynched and refuse to vote anyone else.
That’s what I mean.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Luca do you have any other scumreads?

I think they scum read GB but not as much as me.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Though they don’t seem interested in pushing anyone else except me.

[Luca Blight]

Yes, I SR George as well, but TSE is my primary SR.

If you look back through my posts, TSE, you’ll see that I’ve made numerous arguments against George as well.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Yes, I SR George as well, but TSE is my primary SR.

If you look back through my posts, TSE, you’ll see that I’ve made numerous arguments against George as well.

Yes, but as I said before you feel more strongly of me being scum and only willing to push me.
You never pushed GB, just explained why you scum read them.
I could see scum doing that as a SvS
I can also see scum doing that as a TVS.
So until you show direction towards someone else, I’ll assume your just annoying town who can’t see I’m Town.

[Luca Blight]

I had been pushing George, but he hasn’t been posting. How can I continue to push someone who isn’t here?