Newbie 1984 - Game Over

[Hectic]

VOTE: Ronda[/uv]

[Hectic]

Hmm VOTE: Ronda

[Detective Pikachu]

Are you seriously taking someone whose name can be shortened to R1 and nicknaming her Ronda instead?

[Hectic]

Absolutely.

R1's a terrible name compared to Ronda.

[Detective Pikachu]

I'm not sure what to do with self-vote open immediately followed by normal RVS but thought the "its memephase" explanation of the gamestate was ~ok? gonna need more before I decide there

[Natsu]

UNVOTE:

This thread moves like 4x faster than my last game. Gonna take some getting used to. I'm liking how Hectic handled pressure so far and I have an early wagon to look at for later.

[Luca Blight]

Oh boy. At first I was going to complain about the SE's not setting Hectic straight for his trash tier posting. But then I realized he was an SE, even though he says he's quite new. Then again in my last game the SE's were the ones making all the questionable moves.

Do people typically get worse at mafia the more they play?

This is actually an interesting question. I think in terms of many things in life, this ends up being the case. Take, for example, driving: When you've just passed your test you are still very cautious and drive in the correct posture, mirror signal manouvre etc. Soon, however, bad habits start creeping in, and if you took the same test a few years later you most probably wouldn't pass. I think the same applies to Mafia.

Hey, friends!

I'm quite new, so is it okay if I lurk this game and try to learn from the more experienced people? Also, should we mass claim? It could be useful to talk about who we target in the night. I will start: I am the Town Goon. I am not allowed to target anyone in the night.

VOTE: 72offsuit

This is somehow worse than the first post of a person in my last game, which got her massively scumread and lynch-mobbed. You are playing a complete fool on purpose here. I'm guessing you are trying to get an actual vanilla townie newb to be like "hey, it shouldn't say town goon!" and then vote for you because you look like a terrible scum player who just tipped their hand. So I guess I'll go ahead and grant you your wish and vote for you because it's not supposed to say town goon.
VOTE: Hectic

After reading further I find that Hectic actually has thousands of hours of mafia gametime. But I'll keep my vote here to see where he's taking us with this style of posting.

This is a decent thought-process. You have earned a Townie point, well done.

[Luca Blight]

Hello people.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=79490
?

That's gotta be one of the most dumb scum tells I've ever seen, ngl.

Hello everyone, my name's Arthur and I'm fairly new at forum mafia.

Haha, I love this defiance.

Good on you, Arthur.

[Luca Blight]

I just want to point out that DP and Hectic are probably the best two players in here XD

You do yourself a disservice, dsj!

[Detective Pikachu]

I investigated Luca night 0 and learned he was part of the mafia, we should all speed wagon him :3 :3 :3

[DkKoba]

Woah woah we're at L-1 already and just woke up in the morning.
DP is obviously either scum or not a great player. This is probably the same with Hectic. The thing is they both seem so authentically mediocre that I would be impressed with any scum managing to fake play the way they do. I'm happy with policy lynches not on D1 and definitely not on the first day of D1. I also have reason to suspect at least one of the wagoners of being mafia. This is a very common tactic that mafia use - getting town to vote for the bad players instead of scum. Analysing the wagoners on Hectic.

Spoiler:

Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

@ROUND ONE, your post appears to be fairly non-suspect, you simply voted for him because you felt he was a bad player, although I personally wouldn't have gone so far as to vote for him.

this seems extremely disingenuous based on tone + timing, can you explain your intentions with this post?

[DkKoba]

actually just based on Hectic's tone post being pushed via the votes I want to put some pressure on Arthur VOTE: ArthurConyl

[72offsuit]

Hello people.

Hi all,
A sheep in wolf's clothing if I ever saw one.

So we're going to lynch actual sheep then just because they look wolfy?

Astute observation, I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that

[Detective Pikachu]

actually just based on Hectic's tone post being pushed via the votes I want to put some pressure on Arthur VOTE: ArthurConyl

He also doesn't have an avi which in my experience is 100% confirmation that someone is scum in this queue

[Detective Pikachu]

also don't know what to do with him putting himself in the middle of his list near the null line LOL

[72offsuit]

omgusing this early into the game? Bold strategy

Interestingly in my last game the player omgusing on me in RVS stage flipped scum. Though Id say its probably non-alignment indicative (NAI)
What is everyone's thoughts on omgus votes?

[Detective Pikachu]

tells you more about temperament than alignment, although temperament in the grand scheme can be AI

[72offsuit]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11562673]post 19[/url], Hectic"]Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?[/quote]

0) Town

1) Town - i prefer figuring out logic puzzles. I enjoy card and board games that involve hidden roles such as bang,

I also like mafia - bluffing can be fun, duh.. I love poker but I find prolonged deception can be stressful.

2) ive played 1 forum game, and ive played fast paced mafia on epicmafia.

3) Flight

4) Melbourne

5) Exciting is a bit of a strong word for forum mafia. Excited, no. Looking forward to some fun and a casual game.

6) No particular one question i would ask. Depends on the context of the game, but basically anything i think requires clarification

[72offsuit]

Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

This feels like a genuine vote for a light scumread, as far as i understand for posting 'fluff'
Have i understood this post correctly?

[72offsuit]

72offsuit

Luca Blight (SE)
Hectic (SE)
DkKoba

ROUND ONE

dsjstr
Natsu

ArthurConyl

@Detective Pikachu
1. I can't work out if you're trying to be serious or not
2. Why are dsjstr, Natsu and I considered scummy?
3. Normally a weird post like this would be considered scummy, listing everyone like you're so smart and not even giving justification? But then again I can't work out if you're scum or just making a bad play.

Why would you not think the reads based off RVS are genuine?
Because you dislike the results of said reads?

[72offsuit]

I'm guessing you are trying to get an actual vanilla townie newb to be like "hey, it shouldn't say town goon!" and then vote for you because you look like a terrible scum player who just tipped their hand.

Hey, Natsu. Why do you think scum would employ this strategy?

Specifically to out a town role from someone who contests you. Might make PR hunting easier somehow. No one took the bait though. I don't necessarily see it as scummy at this point in time. As for the questions:

0. Town (finally)
1. I think I prefer playing as town. Too early to tell.
2. I've played two games on this site, both flawless mafia games. Also some Town of Salem and a little irl stuff.
3. Going back in time.
4. The virtual world
5. A fair bit.

I'm getting a bit of a bad vibe off this post.
a) The "finally" seems very forced
b) I don't get why its too early to tell. You give me the feelings of a player who has played mafia (in whatever form be it IRL or fast-browser based mafia) a fair bit. I'd be very surprised for someone to not know what alignment they prefer playing as.

[72offsuit]

This is a decent thought-process. You have earned a Townie point, well done.

Trying to "earn townie points" is mafia modus operandi 101. Why is this a "well done"? Town goal is to identify scum.

[72offsuit]

Woah woah we're at L-1 already and just woke up in the morning.
DP is obviously either scum or not a great player. This is probably the same with Hectic. The thing is they both seem so authentically mediocre that I would be impressed with any scum managing to fake play the way they do. I'm happy with policy lynches not on D1 and definitely not on the first day of D1. I also have reason to suspect at least one of the wagoners of being mafia. This is a very common tactic that mafia use - getting town to vote for the bad players instead of scum. Analysing the wagoners on Hectic.

Spoiler:

Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
also
0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

@ROUND ONE, your post appears to be fairly non-suspect, you simply voted for him because you felt he was a bad player, although I personally wouldn't have gone so far as to vote for him.

this seems extremely disingenuous based on tone + timing, can you explain your intentions with this post?

I agree with DK. The tone does seem forced. Would likewise like some clarification.
Do you feel like a hammer was actually imminent?

[Natsu]

I'm guessing you are trying to get an actual vanilla townie newb to be like "hey, it shouldn't say town goon!" and then vote for you because you look like a terrible scum player who just tipped their hand.

Hey, Natsu. Why do you think scum would employ this strategy?

Specifically to out a town role from someone who contests you. Might make PR hunting easier somehow. No one took the bait though. I don't necessarily see it as scummy at this point in time. As for the questions:

0. Town (finally)
1. I think I prefer playing as town. Too early to tell.
2. I've played two games on this site, both flawless mafia games. Also some Town of Salem and a little irl stuff.
3. Going back in time.
4. The virtual world
5. A fair bit.

I'm getting a bit of a bad vibe off this post.
a) The "finally" seems very forced
b) I don't get why its too early to tell. You give me the feelings of a player who has played mafia (in whatever form be it IRL or fast-browser based mafia) a fair bit. I'd be very surprised for someone to not know what alignment they prefer playing as.

I've literally never played town before. I've played like one game of IRL mafia with like 6 people and no power roles, and I was really good at winning that game as town, but that's technically not the same as forum mafia. Town of Salem is also not really comparable. I treat forum mafia very differently.

[Xtoxm]

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