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bugspray · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:18 pm

fyi i was already on the tse wagon, was hoping to bait some kind of lolhammer that would just land flaccidly. the two posts i made at the end of the last page where just so that i could pagetop with the dramatic voting and not be on the same page as a vote count which would pretty much ruin the gambit

bugspray · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:20 pm

In post 524, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 522, Aloratom wrote:Could you point me to the bugs volxen pressure, Luca?
No, you misunderstand.

I pressured Volxen (in so far as you can pressure an inactive player), and Bugs' reaction to my pressure was weird.

can you quote my weird reaction? i made a few non genuine posts 2 pages ago just to pull off the pro gamer move with the fake l-1 that totally worked

Luca Blight · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:24 pm

In post 469, Luca Blight wrote:Posting everything in walls can certainly be a scumtell; it allows players to hide easier.

The fact Volxen is not only posting in walls but also ignoring current events in favour of things that happened 5 pages ago pings me harder. It’s a way of looking productive without needing to take a stance on anything relevant.

In post 470, bugspray wrote:Luca can you give a readlist? I'm getting a wolfy vibe from you and your somrgasboard of scumtells

In post 471, bugspray wrote:The wolfy vibe is just the last few pages tbh

First it was here - I start to apply a little pressure to Volxen, and then Bugs' shades me for the first time this game, which felt like you were looking to undermine the point I was making.

Then you gave Volxen a vague null-town read while saying he had effectively analysed the game, and then switched the attention immediately back to TSE. Maybe this was a genuine reaction test (I dislike such tests btw) but it feels like you're unwilling to allow much attention to be focused on that slot.

DkKoba · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:26 pm

In post 484, DkKoba wrote: Why are you pushing the lynch off TSE Lucas?

@Luca you never answered this

Luca Blight · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:28 pm

That's pretty much the same question as 'do you now TR TSE'?

My answer was that no, I don't TR them. The reason I don't want them immediately lynched is because I want to assess you and Volxen further before the day is over.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:29 pm

In post 509, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 504, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 502, Aloratom wrote:
In post 491, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: TSE

In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
You two want to talk about this?
Do I even try at this point?
Koba flipping mafia at least indicates that Me and Luca are Town.
My lynch doesn’t do shit but gets rid of someone who’s the top scum read.
It’s best to do confirmability via lynch rather then PLing.
By the same token, you flipping scum would indicate me and Koba are Town.

How Koba?

Luca Blight · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:30 pm

Well, if Koba flipping scum makes you Town, surely the reverse is also true?

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:31 pm

In post 511, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 498, bugspray wrote:its possible he has been rehashing stuff you've said tbh

In post 499, bugspray wrote:i'll go back and look

In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
Why the rush to put TSE at L-1 when we were considering Volxen?

Did you even go back and check like you said you would?

TBH Volxen’s barley done shit.
If it will help you help me help you realize I’m Town.
I’ll vote them, just give me the word.
Their Null for me currently and if that slot keeps making Walls I won’t ever get a proper read until I have a major engagement with them.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:32 pm

Howdy, just got home from work what's up?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:36 pm

In post 502, Aloratom wrote:
In post 491, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: TSE

In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
You two want to talk about this?

They're my two top scum-reads and jesus christ, TSE is not the ideal lynch here.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 531, Luca Blight wrote:Well, if Koba flipping scum makes you Town, surely the reverse is also true?

Well Ima look from you perspective.
Assuming Luca is the one that did what I did and not me.
From my POV in that case I indicated that Koba is unwilling to vote Luca at first.
Said “IDK he might flip town, I’m unsure”
Then when Koba became a wagon they decided to then vote Luca. (Keep in mind this is a metaphor)
Now yes your probably thinking “Sure this is a tad bit scummy but nothing to indicate W/W”
Well Yes and No.
Yes a Wolf could react like that when trying to defend a town.
But a Wolf could also slightly defend their buddy but then push them so they don’t get lynched instead as they feel as if their buddy is going to get lynched regardless of Koba’s flip.

Although assuming the wolf on the wagon is a Roleblocker or Rolecop.
There’s a very low chance their buddy EVER voted against them.
As without that person it hurts scum ALLOT.

Luca Blight · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:38 pm

If Koba continues to evade my question then I'll happily lynch them over TSE.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 534, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 502, Aloratom wrote:
In post 491, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: TSE

In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
You two want to talk about this?
They're my two top scum-reads and jesus christ, TSE is not the ideal lynch here.

I second this ^
(Mainly because my life’s on the line)

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:39 pm

In post 531, Luca Blight wrote:Well, if Koba flipping scum makes you Town, surely the reverse is also true?

How does that work?

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:41 pm

In post 514, chazary wrote:As far as being this close to hammer I would typically unvote to prevent such but TSE is giving us absolutely nothing when asked to explain themselves or their reads. They're still my biggest scumread and at this point I believe we're talking in circles whether they're scum or not and lynching them would at least move the game forward. I do want more from volxen and George and I feel bad about the players who just subbed in not being here for too long but where else can this conversation go without some kind of catalyst i.e. lynch and/or nk.

Maybe because I have commutation issues and fail to understand certain things unless explained the way to how I can fully comprehend them.

As of your slot. I was lean scum, kinda having you on a rough Null RN.
I lean scum’ed you mainly for a reaction I think? And also I was slightly town reading Chuck.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:42 pm

In post 525, bugspray wrote:fyi i was already on the tse wagon, was hoping to bait some kind of lolhammer that would just land flaccidly. the two posts i made at the end of the last page where just so that i could pagetop with the dramatic voting and not be on the same page as a vote count which would pretty much ruin the gambit

I think your scum but like, explain to me why I’m the best lynch here.

Luca Blight · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:43 pm

In post 538, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 531, Luca Blight wrote:Well, if Koba flipping scum makes you Town, surely the reverse is also true?
How does that work?

TSE's point was that if Koba flips scum then it indicates TSE is Town. Bascially meaning TSE and Koba isn't S/S.

Which means we recieve the same benefit from TSE flipping scum.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:44 pm

IDK I can’t really trust Bugs.
One of the things that pinged me about him is he voted me during the beginning then later voted Chaz and he said something to me that was like “Your sound pretty Genuine you might be Town”
But votes me again anyway when we lean back into my direction.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:45 pm

In post 527, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 469, Luca Blight wrote:Posting everything in walls can certainly be a scumtell; it allows players to hide easier.

The fact Volxen is not only posting in walls but also ignoring current events in favour of things that happened 5 pages ago pings me harder. It’s a way of looking productive without needing to take a stance on anything relevant.

In post 470, bugspray wrote:Luca can you give a readlist? I'm getting a wolfy vibe from you and your somrgasboard of scumtells

In post 471, bugspray wrote:The wolfy vibe is just the last few pages tbh
First it was here - I start to apply a little pressure to Volxen, and then Bugs' shades me for the first time this game, which felt like you were looking to undermine the point I was making.

Then you gave Volxen a vague null-town read while saying he had effectively analysed the game, and then switched the attention immediately back to TSE. Maybe this was a genuine reaction test (I dislike such tests btw) but it feels like you're unwilling to allow much attention to be focused on that slot.

Funny enough.
Koba believes the Scum Team is Bugs and Volxen.

Luca Blight · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:47 pm

As much as I dislike and SR TSE's play this game, I get the feeling from how everyone is reacting to the wagons that they're probably not scum.

I'm preferring a lynch in Koba/Volxen right now.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:48 pm

In post 541, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 538, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 531, Luca Blight wrote:Well, if Koba flipping scum makes you Town, surely the reverse is also true?
How does that work?
TSE's point was that if Koba flips scum then it indicates TSE is Town. Bascially meaning TSE and Koba isn't S/S.

Which means we recieve the same benefit from TSE flipping scum.

There's a difference between not being SvS and being SvT or TvT. If one flips Town it is not instantly confirmed the other is scum and you're an SE and should know that.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:49 pm

In post 544, Luca Blight wrote:As much as I dislike and SR TSE's play this game, I get the feeling from how everyone is reacting to the wagons that they're probably not scum.

I'm preferring a lynch in Koba/Volxen right now.

I’m good with either of those 2.

Luca Blight · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:49 pm

In post 545, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 541, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 538, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 531, Luca Blight wrote:Well, if Koba flipping scum makes you Town, surely the reverse is also true?
How does that work?
TSE's point was that if Koba flips scum then it indicates TSE is Town. Bascially meaning TSE and Koba isn't S/S.

Which means we recieve the same benefit from TSE flipping scum.
There's a difference between not being SvS and being SvT or TvT. If one flips Town it is not instantly confirmed the other is scum and you're an SE and should know that.

But neither TSE nor I mentioned a Town flip?

Read again.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:50 pm

In post 546, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 544, Luca Blight wrote:As much as I dislike and SR TSE's play this game, I get the feeling from how everyone is reacting to the wagons that they're probably not scum.

I'm preferring a lynch in Koba/Volxen right now.
I’m good with either of those 2.

I'm good with Koba or bugspray

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:51 pm

In post 547, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 545, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 541, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 538, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 531, Luca Blight wrote:Well, if Koba flipping scum makes you Town, surely the reverse is also true?
How does that work?
TSE's point was that if Koba flips scum then it indicates TSE is Town. Bascially meaning TSE and Koba isn't S/S.

Which means we recieve the same benefit from TSE flipping scum.
There's a difference between not being SvS and being SvT or TvT. If one flips Town it is not instantly confirmed the other is scum and you're an SE and should know that.
But neither TSE nor I mentioned a Town flip?

Read again.

Oh derp yeah. Ignore me, I just got off work and am dead inside.
If TSE does flip scum, Koba is 99% cleared. But TSE is scum from my pov. GTH Koba will always flip scum over TSE here.
Again, I have experience with TSE so that's just what I see.