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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:49 am

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In post 195, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 61, ArthurConyl wrote:Conclusions so far (from town to scum):
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Everyone else (no order):
Natsu - would be more comfortable if you didn't put Hectic at L-2
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like, ok so the second part is literally just copy pasting the OP and taking out the three people he has reads on

if so, a) why start by saying it's town to scum
b) why copy paste the names you're not sorting
c) why keep your own name in the list?

that being said Luca still looks more like frozen scum to me than this, this is more baffling to me than objectively scummy
Could be, but I could also see how it's his standard format for posting read lists from whatever other site he's from, so he left the (town to scum) in by habit. I think 's a lot scummier honestly.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:49 am

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Not a fan of and the constant emphasis on never rolling town before
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:50 am

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In post 187, Hectic wrote: What do you think of , Natsu? After rereading it, I have several problems with it.
You have *several* problems with it? I'll say it looks feigned, but I can't think of too much else, especially when there isn't much else to go on with Arthur. I've actually read the game Mountain in full that he was a part of. I guess this one post in particular looks a bit out of character. His advice for last game was to trust his instincts and not to hide as a PR. Maybe you're just leading my thinking here, but he does seem overly sensitive to near-lynch wagons both here, , and . Says he's okay with policy lynching eventually (not a good sign). Speaks authoritatively about a "very common" mafia tactic even though it's his second game. Oh and he also never analyzed dkkoba who I believe was on that wagon. Shit, I guess I do have a lot of problems with it as well.

For the record, I wasn't worried about an early L-1 because a lol-hammer would basically be an admission of guilt. I can't fathom even a newbie town player being the one to hammer on day 1 of day 1.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:52 am

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Oh, he has meta here. I just assumed he didn't because of the lack of a profile picture. Digging time.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:53 am

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ftr I strongly considered lolhammering Hectic and nearly did when he mentioned I didn't RVS him this game even though I'd said I would do so on a different account

I mostly didn't more because I was worried that would be against the spirit of what we're supposed to do in newbie queue lol
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:54 am

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Wow
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:55 am

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:P

day 1s are almost categorically too long on this site
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:57 am

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Y'know, I actually thought to leave that RVS thing out because I was like, would Pikachu take this as an invitation to hammer? grumble grumble

I actually kinda like day 1s for some reason. I start getting lost sometimes on later day phases, and can't be bothered to keep going back to look through a hundred pages or whatever. Day 1 feels chill
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:00 am

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In post 201, Detective Pikachu wrote:Not a fan of and the constant emphasis on never rolling town before
Some nice narrative-weaving here by the electric mouse pokemon. I literally only "emphasized" that in two posts, the second of which was when I was asked to clarify to some extent.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:01 am

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I've loathed day 1s ever since boon fake claimed masons with my scumread (who was scum), second scum claimed gunsmith, third scum claimed doctor, and I was vig

like there's no way to effectively evaluate claims

scum are always dragged to l-1 and then wagon dissolves and people townread them because "blah blah wagon analysis"

imo game begins day 2 unless the player list is like extraordinarily easy to read
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:02 am

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Cool now I don't like either so that's three reasons
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:05 am

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In post 210, Detective Pikachu wrote:Cool now I don't like either so that's three reasons
What was the second reason again?
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:05 am

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In post 49, ArthurConyl wrote:Woah woah we're at L-1 already and just woke up in the morning.
DP is obviously either scum or not a great player. This is probably the same with Hectic. The thing is they both seem so authentically mediocre that I would be impressed with any scum managing to fake play the way they do. I'm happy with policy lynches not on D1 and definitely not on the first day of D1. I also have reason to suspect at least one of the wagoners of being mafia. This is a very common tactic that mafia use - getting town to vote for the bad players instead of scum. Analysing the wagoners on Hectic.
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In post 24, ROUND ONE wrote:
In post 19, Hectic wrote:Actually, answer these instead please:

Hey, does everyone mind asking some questions? I want to try RQS (Random Questioning Stage) this game for fun. It's some fun harmless questions which has potential to start discussion. Appreciate if everyone answers. I'm well-versed in Pikapika, so I can translate what Detective Pikachu says.

0) Are you town or scum?
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2) What is your experience with playing mafia?
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick?
4) What is your ideal location to live in?
5) How excited are you to play this game?
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be?

VOTE: Hectic
these never work and ur faking contribution
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0) yes
1) 3p
2) alot, just alot
3) I wish for more wishes
4) Canada
5) idk, at least 6
6) can we lynch hectic already

@ROUND ONE, your post appears to be fairly non-suspect, you simply voted for him because you felt he was a bad player, although I personally wouldn't have gone so far as to vote for him.
Problems I have with 49 are the calling Pikachu and I scum without actually calling us scum, then talking seriously about policy lynching bad play but clarifying and saying he wouldn't do it on day 1 (that doesn't make sense btw, day 1 is the best day for policy lynches, but that point isn't scummy). Like, does town!Arthur actually think policy lynching is something worth discussing seriously at that point?
Then he goes onto analyse my wagoners for scum because he believes scum will be on there, but then the one person he does ask a question to (Jaiden), he feels the need to call her post non-suspect and even explain why she must be voting me, while he's apparently trying to find scum on my wagon.

Also, I read his other town game, and it feels
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different in tone. Lot more polite/uncertain. I could see an angle scum!him's taking where he comes out super confident and attacks two SEs to show he has no fear and can't be scum.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:06 am

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In post 211, Natsu wrote:What was the second reason again?
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:07 am

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In post 51, ArthurConyl wrote:
In post 36, dsjstr wrote:
L-1!


VOTE: Hectic

So scummy you can't be scum won't work on us mister
@dsjstr, this smacks strongly of scum jumping on the wagon. You didn't give a strong reason, you put him at L-1. Why the rush to lynching already? I'm ok with the other guys voting but you put him at L-1, after only a real-life day of play. Here, take my VOTE: dsjstr
Actually, there's this post too, so he did look for scum on the wagon at least.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:10 am

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In post 213, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 211, Natsu wrote:What was the second reason again?
I thought that was the first reason? What would be the first one then?
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:10 am

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In post 209, Detective Pikachu wrote:I've loathed day 1s ever since boon fake claimed masons with my scumread (who was scum), second scum claimed gunsmith, third scum claimed doctor, and I was vig

like there's no way to effectively evaluate claims

scum are always dragged to l-1 and then wagon dissolves and people townread them because "blah blah wagon analysis"

imo game begins day 2 unless the player list is like extraordinarily easy to read
Eh, wagon analysis is overrated. I like it mostly for seeing how people form their first reads, and good progression can be a goldmine for finding out alignments.

Boon's an... interesting player.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:11 am

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@Hectic I'm guessing you just skimmed his iso? Don't see how you could read his whole game in about 7 minutes.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:12 am

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Yeah, skimmed his ISO. Focused on his entrance and tone.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:12 am

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Who is Boon? Can you just use peoples' real names instead of spreading scummy ambiguity?
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:12 am

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In post 201, Detective Pikachu wrote:Not a fan of and the constant emphasis on never rolling town before
1 - Not a fan of 80
2 - Not a fan of emphasis on being town
3 - Not a fan of over-reaction to 201
4 - Not a fan of asking two separate questions about how to read 201

Up to 4 reasons now why Natsu is not townblock material
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:14 am

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In post 219, Natsu wrote:Who is Boon? Can you just use peoples' real names instead of spreading scummy ambiguity?
Boon, aka Boonskiies, aka Flavor Leaf, aka Pretentious, aka Morality, is one of the heavy users of the site who regularly runs large theme games, frequently makes 'weird' plays as town, and won the 3rd party Scummy last year. Most people call him "Boon" because he includes his name in his series of Large Theme games (the "Booneytunes" series)
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:15 am

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Cool, I'm not here to join any townblocks. I'm guessing that's some kind of town clique? Seems more like building your own tomb.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:17 am

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I actually have no problem with Luca+
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:17 am

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...Arthur. sorry misclick
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