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[Bingle]

The post psyche called a misrep was a response to your post about how no one was engaging you, not your case. I think I’ve fully explained why I haven’t engaged you.

If you don’t think my level of thread presence is going to help you read me, well... sucks to be you, I guess.

[Psyche]

it was an inaccurate representation of the case though

[Farkran]

Amrun, can you tell me what from Almidia sounded to you as busywork? Because to me it seems that you two were just disagreeing about your reads. Also, there's the point where you are shipping a Farkran+Almidia team but i know that cannot be true - regardless though, you are entitled to believe it because we pretty much are forced to work with preflip associatives in this game (which is something i would promote in standard games too, though, so that's not a problem at all). I recall you saying that Almidia was trying to deflect my wagon by saying Pine was scummier - and from my POV it is more than reasonable to believe so, but that's not the point - the point is that, where's Almidia scum intent in defending my slot if i flip town? To elaborate: isn't your scumcase of Almidia at least partially based on the assumption that i would flip red?

If anything, i'd be scumreading Bingle more than how i'd scumread Almidia at this point, but i would like to see Hectic flip first, because if i am correct, Bingle is never scum in this game.

[Farkran]

I'll get back to this tomorrow, 2 AM - goodnight!

[Bingle]

it was an inaccurate representation of the case though

No it was an accurate representation of everything she’s done I could respond to. I ignored the case, similarly to how she ignored that I actually have a reason to think Farkran is town.

[Psyche]

plainly peddling bullshit

[Psyche]

bungle going out of his way to respond to an offhand almost rhetorical question about the case on him is incompatible with the idea that he was ignoring the case on him

bungle did not just provide a representation of all amrun has done that he could respond to — he claimed that "all amrum had done that he could respond to" was in fact

all

amrun had done

his part in this whole discussion since has just been incoherent hand-waving

seems no matter who sits in the slot we get lame questionable play

[Bingle]

You disagree that Farkran being the only one to actively push something when I replaced in is town indicative?

[Bingle]

I think there’s exactly one scum in this whole line of inquiry, btw. I lean psyche over Amrun.

[Psyche]

lol

[Amrun]

Amrun, can you tell me what from Almidia sounded to you as busywork? Because to me it seems that you two were just disagreeing about your reads. Also, there's the point where you are shipping a Farkran+Almidia team but i know that cannot be true - regardless though, you are entitled to believe it because we pretty much are forced to work with preflip associatives in this game (which is something i would promote in standard games too, though, so that's not a problem at all). I recall you saying that Almidia was trying to deflect my wagon by saying Pine was scummier - and from my POV it is more than reasonable to believe so, but that's not the point - the point is that, where's Almidia scum intent in defending my slot if i flip town? To elaborate: isn't your scumcase of Almidia at least partially based on the assumption that i would flip red?

If anything, i'd be scumreading Bingle more than how i'd scumread Almidia at this point, but i would like to see Hectic flip first, because if i am correct, Bingle is never scum in this game.

Alimdia can very easily be scum independent of you being scum. It gives you partner equity but it’s not set in stone.

I think it would also help from a scum point of view to bring negative light to the Pine slot regardless. If Psyche flips scum, this would change.

(Of note: alimdia actually did something similar to a scum buddy in GnR. She drew attention to her lurking, but this was pushed by Menalque behind the scenes and it was a very different gamestate. I think it’s unlikely alimdia would repeat that here.)

[Amrun]

You disagree that Farkran being the only one to actively push something when I replaced in is town indicative?

Are we literally supposed to pretend that scum don’t push things? Idgi

[Psyche]

1158 could be a town-indicative post
kind of an easy move to fake though
i wish i had my great vca dataset ready
could really supplement my playstyle, something like that

[Nachomamma8]

Psyche I enjoy you as a human being.

[Psyche]

irrelevant!

[Nachomamma8]

Also if you could keep this between us that would be grrreat but is Bingle just a Jingle alt???

[Psyche]

come on nacho you wouldnt want me telling everyone ur a vonflare alt

[Chara]

i wanted to ask if Bingle was Jingle since he replaced in, but i only noticed upon rereading 1143 that it appeared to be true.

if so, hello Jingle.

regarding 1130 i'm curious about this too. and agree that in spite of the low postcount a lot of the game is very dense. not a bad thing but maybe a difficult thing for me right this second.
i don't know if i feel enough fervor for alimdia scum to want to lynch over a spare. i'll think on it. Farkran i need a break from and will read again later. (i don't mean this as an insult Farkran.)

[Chara]

Nacho, i'm assuming you are rl busy, but i would really like to see your input on alimdia/Bingle, Farkran, Hectic, maybe Psyche if you can. but anything would be nice.

[Chara]

You disagree that Farkran being the only one to actively push something when I replaced in is town indicative?

Are we literally supposed to pretend that scum don’t push things? Idgi

so why do you TR Farkran exactly? and what did you like about his case?

[Chara]

i don't know if it's bad to TR Psyche's posting about how he wasn't intending to mock or be a negative sort of person from the other day. it feels sort of bad to do so and it's probably NAI, but it's also kind of messy and doesn't look thought out.

[Chara]

actually no Psyche's town for other reasons like 1079 and the following refusal to give a read, and generally being himself, there's enough to look at without resorting to angles i don't enjoy and should be NAI in the first place in a game where we're all nice people.
he has that feeling of being justified by his own alignment that's probably fakeable but if i worry about that every time i'm not going to get anywhere. i want to call the feeling defiance but i'm not sure about that.

not sure why 1158 is town-indicative or how one can tell here's exactly one scum as opposed to two or none.

[Bingle]

Also if you could keep this between us that would be grrreat but is Bingle just a Jingle alt???

Yes, publicly. I made the account to keep my missing and playing separate while dealing with the 19 pts of Boon wars ( and 4 other games I was involved in modding to some extent).

[Bingle]

You disagree that Farkran being the only one to actively push something when I replaced in is town indicative?

Are we literally supposed to pretend that scum don’t push things? Idgi

They don’t tend to push unpopular things when they can afford to sit on their hands, no. Am I wrong that fark has a fairly contentious angle?

[Bingle]

(Of note: alimdia actually did something similar to a scum buddy in GnR. She drew attention to her lurking, but this was pushed by Menalque behind the scenes and it was a very different gamestate. I think it’s unlikely alimdia would repeat that here.)

This is what I’m talking about when I say it looks like am doesn’t really believe the case btw.