Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Sherlock and Watson]

I think esp has some concerning stuff, but there's nothing wrong with post 440 - You were demonstrably in the thread and talking about off topic things, I'm not sure why you're so opposed to the idea of this, I linked the posts back.

I also had multiple iterations of a tiered readslist with notes so arguing my early game content was bad feels disingenuous

I get people are lazy and I was deliberately not trying to make the thread visually bloated with unspoilered reads lists but acting as though I wasn't solving strikes me as superficial at best and bad faith at worst

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[Maki and Kaito]

Probably not flawless but Bit->Boon->Esp->Spiff probably hits 2+?

Alright, I'll bite, why those 4? Specifically Flavor Leaf and Spiffeh, since you haven't mentioned them

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[Sherlock and Watson]

@S&W: If you don't want to re-evaluate that's fine but don't get mad at me being a fanboy when I give you an honest and upfront answer as to why I read someone a certain way.

did I get mad? confused by this. I restrained myself from a direct pot shot at RC but I didn't really knock your reasoning on Esp even if it doesn't give me much reason to reevaluate

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[Bitmap]

I think that the Ali pick statement is WIFOM but while we're at it, why would Ali pick someone that gets lynched as town on D1/D2?

You acknowledge it's wifom then ask a wifom question

yes

I didn't know wanting to be a town leader became a scum tell in 2020.

Are you trying to be a town leader here? Doesn't look like that to me.

I'm saying Esp is trying to be town leader.

[Maki and Kaito]

I think esp has some concerning stuff, but there's nothing wrong with post 440 - You were demonstrably in the thread and talking about off topic things, I'm not sure why you're so opposed to the idea of this, I linked the posts back.

I also had multiple iterations of a tiered readslist with notes so arguing my early game content was bad feels disingenuous

I get people are lazy and I was deliberately not trying to make the thread visually bloated with unspoilered reads lists but acting as though I wasn't solving strikes me as superficial at best and bad faith at worst

-S

You had a tiered read list but no explanations and no discussion, and a lot of off topic posts. And the read lists felt forced, imo

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[Bitmap]

@S&W: If you don't want to re-evaluate that's fine but don't get mad at me being a fanboy when I give you an honest and upfront answer as to why I read someone a certain way.

did I get mad? confused by this. I restrained myself from a direct pot shot at RC but I didn't really knock your reasoning on Esp even if it doesn't give me much reason to reevaluate

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Sorry, it felt like you were taking a pot shot at me because I'm a "fanboy/supporter". If you weren't then I take it back.

[Sherlock and Watson]

haven't mentioned them

I just mentioned Boon was playing to scum meta like... a page ago?

And Spiffeh gives me 0 townpings in 22 posts, probably least confident on that read but I feel like I have a decent number of townreads at this point so PoE nudges me there

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[OkaPoka]

VOTE: spiffeh

down for this

jury is out on bitmap for me but

[Sherlock and Watson]

You had a tiered read list but no explanations

explanations are in the list...

also, why do you think it feels forced? I honestly don't get how you'd feel that at all

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[Maki and Kaito]

FL is known to be a strong player and has strong relations with Alisae. I know this sounds WIFOM but there's a good chance Ali might opt to not pick FL because e thinks FL is an easy mislynch as a result. Does this mean it's confirmed that Ali didn't pick FL? No. But I'm willing to give FL a pass today and see how he plays out in D1/D2 because if he's town, he's a viable asset and I think can help us lynch scum.

okay so putting alisae pick wifom aside how is this not Boon playing his scumgame to a T?

-S

You mean this? This doesn't explain anything.

VOTE: spiffeh

down for this

jury is out on bitmap for me but

I'm not down for it, probably - I was towreading them up until they said they trust us less, which I don't think that read feels real based onwhat we've actually done in the game and isntead looks reactionary and how they're 'supposed to act'.

You had a tiered read list but no explanations

explanations are in the list...

also, why do you think it feels forced? I honestly don't get how you'd feel that at all

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Linking to posts isn't explanations, especially when you don't change the linked posts between us going from townlean to reevaluate - it doesn't really make sense.

It feels forced because you weren't otherwise engaging with the game except for off topic thing and yet were churning out a super early reads list - I don't like that



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[Maki and Kaito]

And citing PoE as a reason to scumread someone at this point in the game is nonsensical, get out of here with that

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[Sherlock and Watson]

Here, let me point you to the Boon posts I dislike this game:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

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[Maki and Kaito]

Linking to posts isn't explanations

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[OkaPoka]

i like sherlock

[Sherlock and Watson]

Your tone feels really fucking weird this game Dunn, btw

like do you need me to wallposts shit or what? the posts are scummy, if you don't find them scummy then I can say what I find scummy about them but asking me to explain why a bunch of scummy shit is scummy is dumb and you know better

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[Maki and Kaito]

I don't see how anything FL has done this game is scummy. They're null for me. You saying it's their scum meta without explanation doesn't do it for me, you linking their iso also doesn't do it for me. You're putting the minimum amount of effort possible to try to wave off FL as scum - not sure what I can "know better" when you don't explain anything.

I'm not asking you to wall post, I'm saying you're not explaining things, and are acting like everyone who calls you out on it is weird/scummy

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[Sherlock and Watson]

Ok

Take what you just said

Boon is at best null; ok

So why are you more concerned with me sring him than bitmap emphatically saying he's not scum?

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[Sherlock and Watson]

You wanna know who Ali would never draft.

ME!

Self serving

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[Sherlock and Watson]

I believe it. And we finally get to play a game together, Bitmap.

Pockety

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[OkaPoka]

isnt bitmaps reason to tr him based on wifom and likely not really that significant to him

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Let’s see what the wheel says before I go to bed.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Yeah, just trying to get why dunn is nagging me simultaneously for too little content while recognizing some slots aren't readable without meta or bullshit

Boon feels like scum because he should be town by now

And instead all his posts look like scum boon

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[TrueSoulEnergy]

Apparently I have a Scum Read.
SHOCKING!
But who is it?

[Alisae]

TiMe To SpIn ThE wHeEl!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Apparently it’s Pine.