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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:56 am

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In post 847, Maki and Kaito wrote:I don't think this sentiment is appropriate here, actually. I don't get why you trust us less based on what we've posted
Initially I was just ignoring your slot because your content seemed passable enough for players I had no experience with.

But I know Maria is a p. good scum player so "passable" isn't enough to just write you off.

Either way I didn't have strong feelings about you earlier, and nothing's really changed!
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:58 am

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Hi Ank I saw earlier you were having trouble gathering reads. Is that still the case?
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:02 am

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Where is Watson?
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:03 am

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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:04 am

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In post 901, Spiffeh wrote:Hi Ank I saw earlier you were having trouble gathering reads. Is that still the case?
No, it is not.

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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:06 am

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Why Reasonably Rational?
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:12 am

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In post 617, Titus wrote:
In post 616, Reasonably Rational wrote:Oof sorry Titus. I'm an idiot sometimes. The word "draft" made me think that you had a priority order on the people you submitted. But obviously (now that you explained and I carefully read the 2nd post) if it were that way you would know if someone was scum because your preference draft on them failed. Plz disregard earlier derpness.

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I agree with this. I also believe they are a high likelihood to be a snipe by Alisae due to their raw proficiency in setup information. Alisae knows going into this game that there's going to be several strong town players that are unavoidably going to be town, so it's reasonably rational to pick up a powerhouse in mechanics to help prevent a disadvantage from forming via mechanics as well.

Considering that Cerberus is provably competent at using mechanics to his advantage to set himself up as very likely town via those methods, I don't believe he would be afraid of an ascetic claim making him lynchable early on in the game.

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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:12 am

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VC 1.2 Baker
Reasonably Rational(4) - Amrun, AaronFrost, gobbledygook, Ankamius
Sherlock and Watson(3) - Spiffeh, Bitmap, Pine
OkaPoka(1) - Hectic
Bitmap(1) - Sherlock and Watson
Pine(1) - Maki and Kaito, TSE
Spiffeh(1) - OkaPoka
TSE(1) - Espeonage


Not voting (4)- Flavor Leaf, Frozen Angel, Chemist1422, Reasonably Rational

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.


Titus endorses: Whoever you want
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:17 am

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In post 907, Titus wrote:
VC 1.2 Baker
Reasonably Rational(4) - Amrun, AaronFrost, gobbledygook, Ankamius
Sherlock and Watson(3) - Spiffeh, Bitmap, Pine
OkaPoka(1) - Hectic
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Pine(1) - Maki and Kaito, TSE
Spiffeh(1) - OkaPoka
TSE(1) - Espeonage


Not voting (4)- Flavor Leaf, Frozen Angel, Chemist1422, Reasonably Rational

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.


Titus endorses: Whoever you want
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:20 am

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In post 906, Ankamius wrote:I agree with this. I also believe they are a high likelihood to be a snipe by Alisae due to their raw proficiency in setup information. Alisae knows going into this game that there's going to be several strong town players that are unavoidably going to be town, so it's reasonably rational to pick up a powerhouse in mechanics to help prevent a disadvantage from forming via mechanics as well.

Considering that Cerberus is provably competent at using mechanics to his advantage to set himself up as very likely town via those methods, I don't believe he would be afraid of an ascetic claim making him lynchable early on in the game.
And you think Cerb filters Drixx posting because?
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:21 am

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In post 909, Titus wrote:
In post 906, Ankamius wrote:I agree with this. I also believe they are a high likelihood to be a snipe by Alisae due to their raw proficiency in setup information. Alisae knows going into this game that there's going to be several strong town players that are unavoidably going to be town, so it's reasonably rational to pick up a powerhouse in mechanics to help prevent a disadvantage from forming via mechanics as well.

Considering that Cerberus is provably competent at using mechanics to his advantage to set himself up as very likely town via those methods, I don't believe he would be afraid of an ascetic claim making him lynchable early on in the game.
And you think Cerb filters Drixx posting because?
I don't understand what this is referring to.

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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:24 am

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In post 910, Ankamius wrote:
In post 909, Titus wrote:
In post 906, Ankamius wrote:I agree with this. I also believe they are a high likelihood to be a snipe by Alisae due to their raw proficiency in setup information. Alisae knows going into this game that there's going to be several strong town players that are unavoidably going to be town, so it's reasonably rational to pick up a powerhouse in mechanics to help prevent a disadvantage from forming via mechanics as well.

Considering that Cerberus is provably competent at using mechanics to his advantage to set himself up as very likely town via those methods, I don't believe he would be afraid of an ascetic claim making him lynchable early on in the game.
And you think Cerb filters Drixx posting because?
I don't understand what this is referring to.

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You're starting that Cerb would use mechanics to set himself up as town. Ok, theory granted but ascetic doesn't make anyone look town. Also it was Drixx, not Cerb, who was angry (or faking it). Drixx is directly undermining the spot's credibility. Why? Wouldn't Cerb stop that if he was planning to appear town?
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:28 am

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Cerb also indicated that there's a second part to his role

he's done this slow rolling as scum before, which is why I referenced that claiming ascetic doesn't necessarily become bad just because it doesn't look town; all that truly matters is that whether he is lynched before being able to execute whatever he has planned for the second part of his role

Drixx, idk, I have less direct experience playing with him and I don't even think I've ever seen him be indignant like that before; I don't think I'd be able to parse that properly by itself with where we're at right now

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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:34 am

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In post 912, Ankamius wrote:all that truly matters is that whether he is lynched before being able to execute whatever he has planned for the second part of his role
Why? This argument already assumes he's scum. If he's town, then we would want that. How urgent on a scale of 1-10 is it that we lynch RR?
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:36 am

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In post 913, Titus wrote:Why? This argument already assumes he's scum.
I was responding to this bit.
In post 911, Titus wrote:You're starting that Cerb would use mechanics to set himself up as town. Ok, theory granted but ascetic doesn't make anyone look town.
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:38 am

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In post 913, Titus wrote:How urgent on a scale of 1-10 is it that we lynch RR?
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:40 am

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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:40 am

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VOTE: Reasonably Rational
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:40 am

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Is it urgent? I don't believe so.

Is it the best option of those I can see right now? Yes.

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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:41 am

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In post 915, Titus wrote:
In post 913, Titus wrote:How urgent on a scale of 1-10 is it that we lynch RR?
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:20 am

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In post 912, Ankamius wrote:
Cerb also indicated that there's a second part to his role


he's done this slow rolling as scum before, which is why I referenced that claiming ascetic doesn't necessarily become bad just because it doesn't look town; all that truly matters is that whether he is lynched before being able to execute whatever he has planned for the second part of his role

Drixx, idk, I have less direct experience playing with him and I don't even think I've ever seen him be indignant like that before; I don't think I'd be able to parse that properly by itself with where we're at right now

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Point of order, and about all I'll do in the way of spending my limited time defending myself at this juncture: I never indicated there was anything more to my role; that was all Drixx. Which sure, given we're a hydra doesn't remove the possibility of such risk-benefit analysis and a larger plan being in the works, but it's just a thing you're saying that's provably wrong about me and I figure you should know it. <3

Now I'm off to breakfast, then class, then the mountains. I'll try to get some work done on the game so there's at least some benefit if you end up continuing down this path during my mostly absence, but no guarantees until like 14 hours from now.

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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:23 am

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In post 800, Sherlock and Watson wrote:After carefully reviewing my notes, rereading, and thinking carefully, I've decided I have no idea what the F chemist's alignment is

I might just save him for tomorrow or hope mech solves him somehow

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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:32 am

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In post 920, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 912, Ankamius wrote:
Cerb also indicated that there's a second part to his role


he's done this slow rolling as scum before, which is why I referenced that claiming ascetic doesn't necessarily become bad just because it doesn't look town; all that truly matters is that whether he is lynched before being able to execute whatever he has planned for the second part of his role

Drixx, idk, I have less direct experience playing with him and I don't even think I've ever seen him be indignant like that before; I don't think I'd be able to parse that properly by itself with where we're at right now

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Point of order, and about all I'll do in the way of spending my limited time defending myself at this juncture: I never indicated there was anything more to my role; that was all Drixx. Which sure, given we're a hydra doesn't remove the possibility of such risk-benefit analysis and a larger plan being in the works, but it's just a thing you're saying that's provably wrong about me and I figure you should know it. <3

Now I'm off to breakfast, then class, then the mountains. I'll try to get some work done on the game so there's at least some benefit if you end up continuing down this path during my mostly absence, but no guarantees until like 14 hours from now.

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oh, you're right

now I understand what titus was getting at

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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:40 am

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So the "case", such as it is, boils down to "One RR head is good at mechanics..." (Thanks for the shade by declaring Cerb as the mechanics wiz instead of both of us) followed by "... therefore Ali would have drafted them."

And then you want to argue that pure wifom speculation is the strongest case you think exists at this moment? You clearly haven't actually read the thread. Please GTFO with that weaksauce™.

Baseless speculation combined with fear mongering about our role is pretty fucking terrible, if I'm being honest. Like ... if Mastina was in this game, I would expect that kind of shitty thinking to be employed against our slot because she has an irrational hate on for me/us and basically treats me/us as a policy lynch. But Ank?

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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:41 am

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In post 800, Sherlock and Watson wrote:After carefully reviewing my notes, rereading, and thinking carefully, I've decided I have no idea what the F chemist's alignment is

I might just save him for tomorrow or hope mech solves him somehow

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Oof this is bad. Chemist is the easiest read in the thread right now. Please elaborate on how you came to that conclusion.

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