Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[AaronFrost]

I agree with this. I also believe they are a high likelihood to be a snipe by Alisae due to their raw proficiency in setup information. Alisae knows going into this game that there's going to be several strong town players that are unavoidably going to be town, so it's reasonably rational to pick up a powerhouse in mechanics to help prevent a disadvantage from forming via mechanics as well.

Considering that Cerberus is provably competent at using mechanics to his advantage to set himself up as very likely town via those methods, I don't believe he would be afraid of an ascetic claim making him lynchable early on in the game.

I disagree with using draft speculation to scumread people. Like we have no idea who or why Ali picked the people that e picked and it's not like e is going to tell us.

I do agree with the last bit but that itself isn't enough for me to want to lynch them immediately. I think they are a good wagon though.

[Ankamius]

rude

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[gobbledygook]

I do agree that Pine should die at some point as his role strongly points to there being a scum ascetic but what reasons does scum!Pine have to claim that? If he's scum and all ascetic claims are town, then that strongly helps out town if he dies and it's even worse if there's a scum ascetic on his side. Pine is also hinting that there's more to his role than just being ascetic enabler.

If all town ascetics, getting to know who you can freely nightkill is pretty big.
If mostly all town ascetics, that premise is amplified as you have the scum ascetic kill the town ascetics.
Not to mention, you’ll be able to know who is worth roleblocking or not.

That’s in addition to the fact that people view truth more positively than withholding that information. His claim has already garnered him a lot of good will. Now people are primed to *not* want to lynch him because he is apparently being truthful.

[Sherlock and Watson]

ank you don't think alisae favors day play? I would be really surprised if e picked someone for mech play tbh

-s

lmao

I don't need someone for mechanical play
I am the mechanical carry xD

I believe this tbh

-S

[Alisae]

it's not like e is going to tell us.

Not true!

[Bitmap]

I'm not saying my reads are better than Drixx, I feel like I agree with Drixx, and you going after Drixx's reads with weird confidence seems sus

-S

Not really? I think my reads are better kappa.

[gobbledygook]

So your vote from page 4 came from a single post that Bitmap made, and you’ve barely advocated for more support for his lynch. I don’t like the looks of that.

So you're just not reading the thread at all then?

-S

Where have you asked for people to vote Bitmap with you?

[Sherlock and Watson]

Not really? I think my reads are better kappa.

that would make sense if your reads made sense

-S

[Sherlock and Watson]

In my mind bitmap should be the day 1 lynch and I wanted to see if you'd reach that conclusion as well before meta was involved

-s

[gobbledygook]

One post to MariaR and Funnstral.

Gottt it

[Bitmap]

Not really? I think my reads are better kappa.

that would make sense if your reads made sense

-S

At least I explained myself more extensively than your reads. So yes, I think my reads hold merit.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Where have you asked for people to vote Bitmap with you?

it's also just way too early in the game to bother cheerleading votes, right now the priority is solving so this is a really bad argument

I don't hate my solve but the game is not by definition solvable yet

FA still hasn't posted, I've been asking people on how to solve chemist, M+K is a problem slot, and I need to decide whether TSE is a quarantine read or a townread

I'm not ready for the day to end yet and even if I was I wouldn't be cheerleading votes

-S

[Alisae]

I mean hey, atleast one of you guys are right

[gobbledygook]

Why not ask for people to commit to reads on Bitmap or comment on your Bitmap case if you think he’s strongly likely to be scum?

[gobbledygook]

Asking for people to commit to reads on a scum is highly determinative, in my opinion. I don’t see why that necessarily leads to a rushed end of day.

[Sherlock and Watson]

At least I explained myself more extensively than your reads. So yes, I think my reads hold merit.

You said RR was scum for PoEing Boon and Esp when your reasons for townreading Boon is 100% pick spec and your reasons for townreading Esp is because he's posting

-S

[Sherlock and Watson]

Oh okay so now we're just complaining about playstyle

okay I'll be back when there's a conversation worth having in this thread

-S

[Alisae]

Espe stopped posting btw

[AaronFrost]

If all town ascetics, getting to know who you can freely nightkill is pretty big.
If mostly all town ascetics, that premise is amplified as you have the scum ascetic kill the town ascetics.
Not to mention, you’ll be able to know who is worth roleblocking or not.

That’s in addition to the fact that people view truth more positively than withholding that information. His claim has already garnered him a lot of good will. Now people are primed to *not* want to lynch him because he is apparently being truthful.

I think those are all reasons why scum!Pine would be more likely to keep that hidden as opposed to claiming it right away. That + the fact that he's willing to die early + him hinting more to his role makes me think it comes from town.

If this is a gambit from scum then I think it'd do more harm for him in the long run which is why I'm inclined to believe it comes from town.

[gobbledygook]

I think those are all reasons why scum!Pine would be more likely to keep that hidden as opposed to claiming it right away.

Can you walk me through those reasons?

[Bitmap]

At least I explained myself more extensively than your reads. So yes, I think my reads hold merit.

You said RR was scum for PoEing Boon and Esp when your reasons for townreading Boon is 100% pick spec and your reasons for townreading Esp is because he's posting

-S

Esp reminds me of town!RC

[gobbledygook]

Oh okay so now we're just complaining about playstyle

okay I'll be back when there's a conversation worth having in this thread

-S

Hmm..

[AaronFrost]

If all town ascetics, getting to know who you can freely nightkill is pretty big.

If mostly all town ascetics, that premise is amplified as you have the scum ascetic kill the town ascetics.

Not to mention, you’ll be able to know who is worth roleblocking or not.

These reasons are why I don't think Pine would do this if he was a scum!Ascetic Enabler. It's just objectively better for scum that it stays hidden.

PEDIT: Every time I try to make a post I get pedited like three times lol

[Ankamius]

=)

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[Bitmap]

Oh okay so now we're just complaining about playstyle

okay I'll be back when there's a conversation worth having in this thread

-S

ur attacking me cause of my playstyle...