Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Sherlock and Watson]

Oh yeah, you had a slow start in OK2 as well so I think both times I was town and you were scum you began the game feeling kinda meh

-S

[Sherlock and Watson]

You still haven't given me a read of Kaito btw, can you get on that before you play the change-your-read-of-me game for like 2 pages

-S

[Maki and Kaito]

Pine did not answer me so my want to kill him and confusion for why he is tr is still high. Oka and Bitmap are also people I want dead atm. Any takers? No? Good because that would require me to read more of the game.
Pedit: What exactly do you sr Kaito for?

He was like nitpicking the fact that I thought bitmap was scum but also scumread boon for making a post that seemed to be pocketing bitmap (which sure, would seem to imply bitmap town, but this is boon we're talking about) but he didn't like, actually push me for it so I didn't really get the point of what he was doing was other than just sort of pointlessly shading me and nagging me about not over-explaining reads

And yeah I disagree with almost every position Bitmap has taken but when I checked in with Watson he was a bit less interested in nuking that slot now than he was before so trying to decide if I should actually re-evaluate.

-S

On Bitmap: Only reason I'm legit not tunneling Bitmap into the ground is Kaito. Didn't we both agree that Bitmap was a good day 1 lynch last time I 'caught up?' What happened to that? Did PP really just, convince you? I didn't think he was doing much tbh.

On Kaito: Bias aside obviously, I see. I don't know if that's because I came into this game telling Kaito we were gonna tryhard regardless or if he had other priorities. I don't really care tbh given I know we'll be obv town in due town. (Something I can rarely say) so just give it a bit.

What other takes do you have for me?

[Flavor Leaf]

I had 400+ posts in EICN

[Flavor Leaf]

And I was SK in OK2, and I posted in the first post of that game.

Sure, you can say I was also Mafia, but I actively considered myself not a part of that team, as I screwed them over multiple times.

[Flavor Leaf]

By the way, I fully expected scumSherlock to have games ready to push out

[Maki and Kaito]

By the way, I fully expected scumSherlock to have games ready to push out

...Did you expect town him to like, call it gut or something? Boy do I love FL logic.

[Sherlock and Watson]

I had 400+ posts in EICN

yeah at the end of the game but the beginning of your iso is pretty much all blahhhhh + pockety posts with minimal solving/spice

anyway, kaito read plz

-s

[Flavor Leaf]

I just don’t post, it was clear I wasn’t paying attention to this game.

Y’all got to 50 pages in a few days.

I’m modding 2 games, and am in a couple others.

[Flavor Leaf]

I had 400+ posts in EICN

yeah at the end of the game but the beginning of your iso is pretty much all blahhhhh + pockety posts with minimal solving/spice

anyway, kaito read plz

-s

And that’s AI?

I don’t do solvey/analysis posts as scum?

[Flavor Leaf]

so you’re saying I was forgettable here, right?

Then how come you kept bringing up Bitmap’s comments towards my slot specifically. Doesn’t seem very forgettable.

And look throughout this game how many people brought it up.

[Sherlock and Watson]

What other takes do you have for me?

idk if you + boon are town then I guess I'd go back to bitmap but I feel like I have 0 momentum there

I probably have to do a hard reset on this game

I feel like Alisae almost by definition had to pick someone inside {bitmap, espeonage, boon, you} but I'm already second-guessing everything about each of those slots lol

-S

[Maki and Kaito]

@Sherlock Why did you not request me to come post or talk to me. I suppose that's my only real issue with you. You know my town game better than most people. So I'm a bit surprised you didn't just ask for me and just Kaito and now you're susing him.
Pedit: You should explain why those 4 to the public. I already know the answer, but I wanna hear it .

[Sherlock and Watson]

so you’re saying I was forgettable here, right?

you were non-existent lol

-S

[Sherlock and Watson]

Pedit: You should explain why those 4 to the public. I already know the answer, but I wanna hear it .

presumably cause Ali wants to win? LOL

-S

[Sherlock and Watson]

Why did you not request me to come post or talk to me.

The way your schedule works I don't feel like asking you to post more has ever actually caused you to post more and often causes you to post less?

I feel like you're at least marginally more readable when you just do stuff at your own pace. That and while we've played a lot I feel like my overall track record on reading you is ~meh

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

TrueSoulEnergy
Pine
Flavor Leaf
Hectic
OkaPoka
Espeonage
Bitmap
Maki and Kaito (hydra of Maki Harukawa & Kaito Momota)
Sherlock and Watson (hydra of PenguinPower & Krazy)
Frozen Angel
Chemist1422
AaronFrost
Spiffeh
gobbledygook
Ankamius
Reasonably Rational (hydra of Cerberus v666 and Drixx)
Amrun

Let’s look at this list? Who would you state are the scum heavies, picks by Alisae? By heavy, I mean the slot to be able to captain a scum team and maneuver their way around the majority of players, which is why I won’t have Bitmap or the RR hydra, even though I think they’re likely strong or capable scum players.

I would say:
Pine
FL
Maria/Dunn hydra (keep in mind, Alisae nomm’d Dunn for Rising Star)
Sherlock and Watson
Ankamius

There is absolutely zero chance that there isn’t scum within this list. I know I’m town, and you can deduct Alisae wouldn’t ever pick me here (you don’t have to believe it, but e knows it’s true)

So that leaves

Pine
Maria/Dunn hydra
Krazy/PP hydra
Ankamius.

Obviously you can’t just pick all heavies, that’s too many cooks in the kitchen, so it would be balanced out between strong supporting scum players, and a likely “no one would ever expect this!!!”

Does anybody disagree with this heavy list?

[Flavor Leaf]

so you’re saying I was forgettable here, right?

you were non-existent lol

-S

That’s how you know it’s not scum indicative and it’s NAI. ScumMe active lurks, not passively lurks and trolls.

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel like Alisae almost by definition had to pick someone inside {bitmap, espeonage, boon, you} but I'm already second-guessing everything about each of those slots lol

I almost made a secondary list about supporting scum players over the heavies, and Bitmap/Espeonage fit more in that vein for me based on playerlist knowledge, I believe.

Neat that you posted this as I was posting my thing, however, I fail to see why Ankamius was omitted from this list.

[Sherlock and Watson]

And that’s AI?

I don’t do solvey/analysis posts as scum?

I think there's noticeable differences in the way you solve the game as town vs. scum, yeah. Or at least there have been in the games I've played vs. you

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

And that’s AI?

I don’t do solvey/analysis posts as scum?

I think there's noticeable differences in the way you solve the game as town vs. scum, yeah. Or at least there have been in the games I've played vs. you

-S

Yeah, scumMe makes so much more sense until townMe does

[Maki and Kaito]

FL if you ever make an ali draft list like that again I'm going to policy vote you btw.

[Sherlock and Watson]

OkaPoka
Espeonage
Bitmap

you don't see any of these three as heavies from Alisae's POV?

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

Secondary Scum List second in commands

Espeonage
Bitmap
Gobbledygook
Reasonably Rational

Under the radar coast be there scum picks
Hectic
Okapoka
AaronFrost
Frozen Angel
Spiffeh


Don’t really see Alisae picking unless having to choose between two of em specifically
TrueSoulEnergy
Chemist
Amrun

[Maki and Kaito]

If this is the topic of conversation for the evening I'm tagging in Kaito and going to bed.