Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Sherlock and Watson]

Why would Ali not pick Amrun? Isn't Amrun pretty well regarded?

And why is Oka "under the radar"?

Your characterizations of people seems kinda?

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

OkaPoka
Espeonage
Bitmap

you don't see any of these three as heavies from Alisae's POV?

-S

Not in the same sense. I don’t see them as Captain running the town kind of scum, if that makes sense.

They’re more deepwolf, really strong scum for the late game side of things whilst being able to backup the scum being at the forefront.

[Sherlock and Watson]

If this is the topic of conversation for the evening I'm tagging in Kaito and going to bed.

yeah the way he's doing it seems kinda passive-aggressive and uncool

I didn't realize boon was gonna neg half the player list when I poked the boon fire

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would Ali not pick Amrun? Isn't Amrun pretty well regarded?

And why is Oka "under the radar"?

Your characterizations of people seems kinda?

-S

Because I think those are strong picks as not the main scum, if that makes sense.

E could have picked Amrun, but I don’t feel they did.

Can you explain to me what you feel Amrun and Alisae’s relationship is like?

I think Chemist would have been a solid pick too. Doesn’t mean I think Alisae would have picked.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Not in the same sense. I don’t see them as Captain running the town kind of scum, if that makes sense.

They’re more deepwolf, really strong scum for the late game side of things whilst being able to backup the scum being at the forefront.

Oka isn't captain but is instead deepwolf...?

Like I don't even scumread Oka but that just is not how I view his range at all, he's definitely a very strong player and definitely capable of Captaining stuff

I don't really think this is a particularly productive approach the gamestate. You can't just read Dunn's iso and tell me why I'm wrong and he's actually town?

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

If this is the topic of conversation for the evening I'm tagging in Kaito and going to bed.

yeah the way he's doing it seems kinda passive-aggressive and uncool

I didn't realize boon was gonna neg half the player list when I poked the boon fire

-S

I’m a heel now, I said this. I am now hard calm blunt passive aggressive, but not so much in a passive way, just not in an aggro way.

And what did you expect by poking the Boon Fire?

[Maki and Kaito]

If this is the topic of conversation for the evening I'm tagging in Kaito and going to bed.

yeah the way he's doing it seems kinda passive-aggressive and uncool

I didn't realize boon was gonna neg half the player list when I poked the boon fire

-S

Combine that with the fact if I have to deal with people calling X town and Y scum for 'what ali would do' I'm going to actively ignore it because it's just stupid. Set up spec is stupid pick drafting is stupid. Let's just play mafia. Ugh.

[Ankamius]

I'd be very shocked if FL's idea of the drafting strategy was even close to what Alisae actually did.

And keep in mind that I have very recent experience as scum with Alisae, so I likely have among the most relevant experience here with how e handles scumteams.

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[Flavor Leaf]

Not in the same sense. I don’t see them as Captain running the town kind of scum, if that makes sense.

They’re more deepwolf, really strong scum for the late game side of things whilst being able to backup the scum being at the forefront.

Oka isn't captain but is instead deepwolf...?

Like I don't even scumread Oka but that just is not how I view his range at all, he's definitely a very strong player and definitely capable of Captaining stuff

I don't really think this is a particularly productive approach the gamestate. You can't just read Dunn's iso and tell me why I'm wrong and he's actually town?

-S

Really? He’s first mate, deepwolf was a bad word there.

This is strictly speaking in terms of the drafting mechanics. In a team of they’re own when forced to do it, I feel bitmap/RR easily can captain a game, but I don’t know enough of Bitmap’s play to call them a heavy heavy captain, but from the few games I’ve seen, and by meeting, I feel they can be incredibly strong behind the scenes moreso than upfront.

OkaPoka I’ve never really seen take control of a game, but maybe that’s just based on games I’ve played with him, in which he’s always seemed like a secondary scum, but a solid one, if that makes sense

[Sherlock and Watson]

I have no idea what Ali's relationship to everyone is like, I kinda liked the way Amrun claimed and now I'm more just waiting for her to return to the thread, so I haven't put almost any thought into whether Ali would or wouldn't pick her. Like if I already have a scumread on someone then I might consider that, but I think it's super unhealthy for the game to start with that as the main question tbh, I think you should stop

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

I'd be very shocked if FL's idea of the drafting strategy was even close to what Alisae actually did.

And keep in mind that I have very recent experience as scum with Alisae, so I likely have among the most relevant experience here with how e handles scumteams.

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Explain why please.

Show your work.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have no idea what Ali's relationship to everyone is like, I kinda liked the way Amrun claimed and now I'm more just waiting for her to return to the thread, so I haven't put almost any thought into whether Ali would or wouldn't pick her. Like if I already have a scumread on someone then I might consider that, but I think it's super unhealthy for the game to start with that as the main question tbh, I think you should stop

-S

Exactly.

But I do. Because I’m a sociopathic freak who puts way too much energy into reading social interactions and relationships in general.

[Sherlock and Watson]

And what did you expect by poking the Boon Fire?

I was expecting you to become readable and/or start solving the game, so it basically worked, I just wasn't expecting the extra dose of condescension toward half the playerlist tbh

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

I also don’t think Alisae thinks high enough of their own scum game to warrant them not picking one of the players I put in the 4.

The fact Ankamius pushes the idea that none of those 4 could be picked is extremely interesting to me.

Does Alisae have access to the Mafia PT and can talk in it?
In that scenario, If I had picked with this player list, I think I would go...

One of Krazy hydra/Ankamius, but exactly one of them.
AaronFrost
Hectic
One of Gobbledygook/RR


I’m too lazy to check if it’s 4 or 5 scum, but I think this is a 21 player?

[Flavor Leaf]

And what did you expect by poking the Boon Fire?

I was expecting you to become readable and/or start solving the game, so it basically worked, I just wasn't expecting the extra dose of condescension toward half the playerlist tbh

-S

Not condescending, I could post all the players’ strengths and weaknesses if I really cared to hyper analyze everyone right now.

[Ankamius]

you all are underestimating how beneficial slots with erratic voting patterns are this game as scum picks

and ftr boon, Alisae was captaining when we were scum together

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[Flavor Leaf]

If this is the topic of conversation for the evening I'm tagging in Kaito and going to bed.

yeah the way he's doing it seems kinda passive-aggressive and uncool

I didn't realize boon was gonna neg half the player list when I poked the boon fire

-S

Combine that with the fact if I have to deal with people calling X town and Y scum for 'what ali would do' I'm going to actively ignore it because it's just stupid. Set up spec is stupid pick drafting is stupid. Let's just play mafia. Ugh.

I actually highly disagree with the drafting being bad, because Alisae gets to post in this game, and thus is readable.

This is my starting ground, building my base for me to eventually solve, and I’m showing my work.

Atm, I don’t think Ankamius is the 1 to have been drafted out of the 4.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Don't mind this

Spoiler:

Masonry: Hectic, AaronFrost, Pine

Townbin: RR

Townlean: OkaPoka, GG, TrueSoulEnergy, Flavor
Leaf

Town side of null: Amrun

[Read reserved for (expired on 2020-02-11 19:53:24) - Ankamius]

Sorting Pool: FA

Null: Chemist, Spiffeh

Re-evaluate: Espeonage

Scumlean: Maki & Kaito

Scumbin: Bitmap

Kill with fire:

I don't really love my poe right now UNVOTE:

gonna probably have to refresh tomorrow after some sleep

Kinda like Maki's tone here but not sure enough to undo the damage Dunn did to my read there earlier

Watson doesn't want to nuke Bitmap last I checked

reads are fucked lolololol good night

-Sherlock

[Sherlock and Watson]

Does Alisae have access to the Mafia PT and can talk in it?

I'm like ready to town boon but I actually feel really surprised this is a question he is asking, almost too much?

idk maybe not

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

you all are underestimating how beneficial slots with erratic voting patterns are this game as scum picks

and ftr boon, Alisae was captaining when we were scum together

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I’m not saying e can’t captain. This is a drafting game, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

Does Alisae have access to the Mafia PT and can talk in it?

I'm like ready to town boon but I actually feel really surprised this is a question he is asking, almost too much?

idk maybe not

-S

My dumbness as scum comes off a lot more genuine than it does when I’m town.

Antihero commented one a dead thread once “if Boon is scum, that’s the best fake confusion I’ve ever seen”

When I’m town being dumb, I’m being a derp.

ScumDerp is like when I slip, but I cleverly figure out a way against it.

[Flavor Leaf]

The masonry is outed?

[Sherlock and Watson]

One of Krazy hydra/Ankamius, but exactly one of them.

You're kinda looking at this the wrong way though

Duck and SS get to pick

If Ali goes first and does a top priority heavy that isn't Ank, then Duck could very easily double on us for town

Which is precisely why you're basically just looking at the pick logic totally wrong, you're over-prioritizing what is actually an incredibly difficult puzzle to analyze. Focus on play, Boon, before you actually make me want to policy lynch you for real Like half of what you've said since you stopped actually solving is like pure cancer

-S

[Flavor Leaf]

Kinda like Maki's tone here but not sure enough to undo the damage Dunn did to my read there earlier

I absolutely do not like Maki’s tone here. Explain please.

I almost impulsively voted Maki a bit back.

[Sherlock and Watson]

The masonry is outed?

Yeah I'm masons with Hectic and Aaron

:3

-S