Titus v. Alisae (endgame)


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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:04 pm

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In post 1372, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 1363, Flavor Leaf wrote:One of Krazy hydra/Ankamius, but exactly one of them.
You're kinda looking at this the wrong way though

Duck and SS get to pick

If Ali goes first and does a top priority heavy that isn't Ank, then Duck could very easily double on us for town

Which is precisely why you're basically just looking at the pick logic totally wrong, you're over-prioritizing what is actually an incredibly difficult puzzle to analyze. Focus on play, Boon, before you actually make me want to policy lynch you for real :P Like half of what you've said since you stopped actually solving is like pure cancer

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So? I post a lot. It’s not like I don’t analyze play whilst all this.

I also think my posting is fantastic for reactions.

We’ll see.

If I’m right, like I usually am when people push at me, at least 2/3 partially, you can ask PenguinPower on my solve capabilities at the expense of some minor casualties.

And this is a solid base of the puzzle. I found a good amount of puzzle pieces, and looking at em all before I start trying to piece it together.

I think one of the people who have posted against me tonight is scum, and almost exactly one of them.

I no longer town read OkaPoka either. Maki/Oka/Krazy slot have probably 1 maybe 2 scum within them, but more likely 1.
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:06 pm

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I’m not comfortable throwing Ank off the table yet, but yeah.


Aaron and Hectic were lean towns for me from my read through, I commented on my AF read, so that’s good that my gut was right with them.

Pine being a mason actually helps a lot, and lowers a heavy pick.

Maki/Krazy-PP/Ank is a semi POE.
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:07 pm

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You say this without reading, Oka, right?

Like can you put a marker in for where you start actually reading isos and stuff again because your reads when you start trying to solve the game without reading it tend to be pretty bad.

If you've actually read Oka's iso (not that long) then maybe you can expand on your experience with him and your typical readrate?

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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:11 pm

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Chemist/Amrun/TSE - are lean towns based on what I said earlier. TSE even moreso.

Gobbledygook/Bitmap are town reads of mine based on their play and posts, and position in the gamestate.

Spiffeh/Espeonage/Frozen Angel I think probably have scum in them based on their place in this game mixed with the drafting process and my other reads.

Okapoka’s probably just scum, especially if Krazy is town.

RR, idk, null.

OkaPoka/Maki/Espeonage is my way too early scum team, with probably like Spiffeh/FA.
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:11 pm

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In post 1376, Flavor Leaf wrote:Aaron and Hectic were lean towns for me from my read through, I commented on my AF read, so that’s good that my gut was right with them.

Pine being a mason actually helps a lot, and lowers a heavy pick.
hmmmmmmmmmm

I claim masons and Boon does not get the joke

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

HMMMMMMMM

hmmmm

nah not gonna think more about it right now

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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:12 pm

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In post 1377, Sherlock and Watson wrote:You say this without reading, Oka, right?

Like can you put a marker in for where you start actually reading isos and stuff again because your reads when you start trying to solve the game without reading it tend to be pretty bad.

If you've actually read Oka's iso (not that long) then maybe you can expand on your experience with him and your typical readrate?

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Oh, no, I’ve actually read his entire ISO prior to this posting and was trying to see where I was standing gamestate wise not play wise for a bit, but it just comes back to scum, especially if you are actually town.
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:12 pm

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In post 1379, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 1376, Flavor Leaf wrote:Aaron and Hectic were lean towns for me from my read through, I commented on my AF read, so that’s good that my gut was right with them.

Pine being a mason actually helps a lot, and lowers a heavy pick.
hmmmmmmmmmm

I claim masons and Boon does not get the joke

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

HMMMMMMMM

hmmmm

nah not gonna think more about it right now

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I thought you said Hectic, Pine, AF were masons in your one post, so i thought you were just trollin
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:13 pm

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In post 1376, Flavor Leaf wrote:Aaron and Hectic were lean towns for me from my read through, I commented on my AF read, so that’s good that my gut was right with them.

Pine being a mason actually helps a lot, and lowers a heavy pick.

Maki/Krazy-PP/Ank is a semi POE.
Like you believe me when I say I'm masons with Hectic and Aaron, but then simultaneously believe I'm in your PoE?

Boon do you need some sleep? :P

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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:13 pm

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Wait, was I not getting the counter-joke? Shit did I ruin it?

Ah well I already knew I needed sleep

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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:14 pm

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In post 1382, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 1376, Flavor Leaf wrote:Aaron and Hectic were lean towns for me from my read through, I commented on my AF read, so that’s good that my gut was right with them.

Pine being a mason actually helps a lot, and lowers a heavy pick.

Maki/Krazy-PP/Ank is a semi POE.
Like you believe me when I say I'm masons with Hectic and Aaron, but then simultaneously believe I'm in your PoE?

Boon do you need some sleep? :P

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No, I thought Pine was the mason with Hectic/AF.
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:14 pm

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I’m half trolling, but now you confused me.
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:14 pm

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There's no actual masons claimed that was just me posting my townblock, just so this doesn't actually get stupid

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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:15 pm

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But I kinda believe you... so in a world where you're scum I kinda believe you're not scum with Aaron/Hectic/Pine

But that doesn't help much since you're probably not scum at this point

ah well

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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:16 pm

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I think my Aaron/Hectic reads still staticky true for me, Pine goes away.
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:16 pm

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But Pine more null than scum, i only vaguely remember Pine in my read through
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:20 pm

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Keep in mind, if my dive was correct on the drafting process, or at least close,

Scum is 100% going to be in a group to shoot it down.

Likely in a player that would say “even if I were town, I’d shoot it down”.

I said this in preparation for more people to come in.
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:21 pm

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Okapoka
Espeonage
Maki
Ankamius

Then Spiffeh/RR/FA at a lower level is who keeps jumping out at me for the area to contain all the scum. Hmm...
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:22 pm

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Sherlock’s supposed to be there, but if they’re scum I’m getting slightly pocketed.
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:23 pm

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JESUS H CRIST
5 PAGES!
I look away to do Scummies work and I see 5 pages
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:23 pm

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And I’m really starting to think OkaPoka is scum, which would make me think Krazy is town, and possibly Ank and Maria/Dunn scum?
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:23 pm

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In post 1393, Alisae wrote:JESUS H CRIST
5 PAGES!
I look away to do Scummies work and I see 5 pages
People asked me to play the game. What did people expect was gonna happen?
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:24 pm

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I’m excited to see how Alisae interacts with me
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:25 pm

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In post 1359, Sherlock and Watson wrote:I have no idea what Ali's relationship to everyone is like, I kinda liked the way Amrun claimed and now I'm more just waiting for her to return to the thread, so I haven't put almost any thought into whether Ali would or wouldn't pick her. Like if I already have a scumread on someone then I might consider that, but I think it's super unhealthy for the game to start with that as the main question tbh, I think you should stop

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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:26 pm

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ok I read the thread
back to work
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:29 pm

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In post 1397, Alisae wrote:
In post 1359, Sherlock and Watson wrote:I have no idea what Ali's relationship to everyone is like, I kinda liked the way Amrun claimed and now I'm more just waiting for her to return to the thread, so I haven't put almost any thought into whether Ali would or wouldn't pick her. Like if I already have a scumread on someone then I might consider that, but I think it's super unhealthy for the game to start with that as the main question tbh, I think you should stop

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I am still waiting for people to accept that I can draft anyone in this playerlist and the only reason why I wouldn't draft someone is because of reasons that only I would know.
Exactly. Reasons that only Alisae and I would know.
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