Newbie 1982 | Cellular Automata | Over

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #825 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:47 am

If it was Bugs that got lynched Day 1.
Me and Volxen could have easily won.
Would have bussed him Day 2 for Town Credit.

Plotinus · Post Post #826 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:57 am

The mafia PT has been released

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #827 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:59 am

Also I called Luca a PR.

bugspray · Post Post #828 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:03 am

Gb I read your pt and I'm flattered

bugspray · Post Post #829 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:08 am

Wow scum pt I get called he at least once I rate it low tier

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #830 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:09 am

In post 829, bugspray wrote:Wow scum pt I get called he at least once I rate it low tier

That spray cans a Male

SHOULDA MADE IT PINK!

Plotinus · Post Post #831 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:17 am

In post 830, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 829, bugspray wrote:Wow scum pt I get called he at least once I rate it low tier
That spray cans a Male

SHOULDA MADE IT PINK!

getting misgendered as she isn't usually better

Plotinus · Post Post #832 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:18 am

bugspray's PT is public now

bugspray · Post Post #833 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:21 am

Gb let's Hydra sometime. We can call it egospray I'll make the can shoot tiny stirners

DkKoba · Post Post #834 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:25 am

LOL, I am always good at giving off PR vibes as VT on epicmafia and I see that skill hasn't diminished through to this site

volxen · Post Post #835 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:27 am

Good game all!

volxen · Post Post #836 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:54 am

In post 820, RadiantCowbells wrote:See I want to feel bad because town keep winning this setup

But they keep lynching scum D1 and really deserving the win most of the time so...

Yes it seems like day 1 bussing should usually be avoided in this setup -- it's really risky unless you are absolutely confident on who the cop/jailkeeper/tracker is and that you will be able to kill them on night one (or you are absolutely confident that the town PR's are mason-mason).

Also mutual cross bussing seems really risky just in general in column A or column B, unless scum has a plan in mind to ensure that the goon loses the 1vs1 while simultaneously having both scum look like they were really trying to get the other lynched so their interactions can convincingly be read as TvS rather than SvS (as opposed to a goon who is just trying to get his slot sacked so his scum PR buddy gets towncredit). You don't want the goon to ever win the 1vs1 against the scum PR as that just gives up scum power and allows town to know which column the setup is in. In column C this isn't an issue.

And like the old newbie setup, scum fakeclaiming PR gambits work best in setups C1 (cop only) or C2 (jailkeeper only). In the former you can fakeclaim doctor, and in the latter you can fakeclaim tracker (or technically TFN but I think that's much riskier). You can't be outed as scum through massclaim or PR flips, and if you manage to take out the cop or jailkeeper early on then town has to evaluate you strictly based on your play. It's definitely a lot harder to maintain a fake PR claim as scum over the long haul in setups other than C1 or C2.

volxen · Post Post #837 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:15 am

In post 823, GeorgeBailey wrote:Oh yeah,the cellular automata stuff looked really cool.

I wonder why Alora was the NK. I thought Luca was the obvious NK.

I explained why in the scum PT, but in short I was aiming to kill VT's, NOT PR's, and Alora was 1)heavily townread and 2) obvious VT. Nightkilling the tracker already objectively proves that I am not a jailkeeper, and nightkilling the TFN puts me in a 1vs1 against the tracker. It did occur to me that I could have nightkilled Luca and then simply retracted my jailkeeper claim, but I didn't want to do that because of lynch all liars etc. Winning the game seemed far-fetched period given how day one played out, but I felt like I at least had to stick with my jailkeeper claim rather than retract the claim and claim it was a town gambit to stop me from getting lynched.

I also thought that Luca was TFN rather than tracker, since he didn't call me scum in twilight after I hardclaimed jailkeeper and TSE revealed that he was rolecop.

GeorgeBailey · Post Post #838 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:22 am

In post 825, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:If it was Bugs that got lynched Day 1.
Me and Volxen could have easily won.
Would have bussed him Day 2 for Town Credit.

I think it was the survivalism that fucked you over. That and you claiming role cop during twilight.

In post 833, bugspray wrote:Gb let's Hydra sometime. We can call it egospray I'll make the can shoot tiny stirners

This is great lmao. I was actually thinking of this earlier, but it was stirner spraying a can of bugspray.

GeorgeBailey · Post Post #839 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:24 am

In post 828, bugspray wrote:Gb I read your pt and I'm flattered

Aww. I read yours and now it makes sense why you scumread me so hard at the beginning lmao.

DkKoba · Post Post #840 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:30 am

In post 824, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 820, RadiantCowbells wrote:See I want to feel bad because town keep winning this setup

But they keep lynching scum D1 and really deserving the win most of the time so...
And I flipped scum 3 times.

stop doing silly scummy gambits right off the bat u silly fool

ISO · Post Post #841 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:42 pm

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bugspray · Post Post #842 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:08 pm

When is my gtkas

ISO · Post Post #843 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:13 pm

This weekend!! Hope you're as excited as I am

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #844 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:14 pm

when is town going to start losing newbies so that i stop lookiing bad

Datisi · Post Post #845 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:16 pm

i can start /inning into newbies again and rolling Town

popsofctown · Post Post #846 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:21 pm

No way I'm gonna stalk you and /in to your game and lynch all your townreads. I gotta make sure RC looks bad. No one wanted my sloppily designed but more scumsided setups for the newbie queue so I need to be petulant.

popsofctown · Post Post #847 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:22 pm

(You're not actually bad at town)

ISO · Post Post #848 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:26 pm

I don't know if it's any comfort, but imo being scum in NewD3 feels much better than being scum in the original 2d3 setup.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #849 (ISO) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:59 pm

In post 840, DkKoba wrote:
In post 824, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 820, RadiantCowbells wrote:See I want to feel bad because town keep winning this setup

But they keep lynching scum D1 and really deserving the win most of the time so...
And I flipped scum 3 times.
stop doing silly scummy gambits right off the bat u silly fool

I didn’t in that newbie game I claimed Doctor in.