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[Eve]

why are Dosh and gobbledygook aligned?

[Eve]

VOTE: Thief Stone

I think the Xtoxm flip clears me, from a setup perspective.

I can now only be scum with either Dongfish or Zenith. The moment a scum flips that is not any of us three, we all become conftown.

could you explain why for both of these please?

[gobbledygook]

why are Dosh and gobbledygook aligned?

One of the questions that Zenith could ask the mod was a parity cop question.

A parity cop can check to see if two players share the same alignment.

Zenith asked if Dongfish and I share an alignment. Zenith received a positive result.

[gobbledygook]

I think my pool is {Eve, Mastina, alimidia, Wake88}. I have many thoughts on Xtoxm's death, but for now, I will say that from a setup perspective, if I was scum with one of the neighbors (which is now impossible because of the Zenith and Dongfish revelations), I would not have killed the Mage Leveler as I would lose access to my powerful abilities. I could have a stone-independent power, but the better play is to attempt to increase the scum power as much as possible.

I have once again forgotten who is in the neighborhood, so I will need to look up that information to further speculate on this game.

Eve, the answer to why Xtoxm’s flip clears me from a setup perspective is here. I have made it known that I have powerful abilities attached to the Mage Stone. Killing the Mage Leveler makes it much more difficult to get those powerful abilities. Hence, I wouldn’t have made this kill if I was going to kill a Leveler.


Re: why I can only be scum with either Dongfish or Zenith

Zenith just revealed a parity cop result stating that Dongfish and I share an alignment. This immediately puts us into two universes.

Universe A: Dongfish and I are scum together (the last two remaining scum). This explains Zenith’s parity cop result on us.

Universe B: Zenith and I are scum together and Zenith lied about his parity cop result on me and Dongfish. This means that if Dongfish flips, I become “conftown” to the town and I won’t be nightkilled because I’m mafia so the town will never know the Zenith parity cop result is a lie. If I die and I’m scum, then Dongfish immediately gets killed because the parity cop directly implicates him.


Does that make sense why I said those things?

[gobbledygook]

Thinking about it a Zenith and Dongfish team is unlikely because if Zenith’s parity cop is revealed as incorrect, he immediately gets killed. Also, Dongfish and I now have high priority nightkills on our head so it is entirely possible the parity result gets revealed sooner rather than later.

[Zenith]

I think my pool is {Eve, Mastina, alimidia, Wake88}. I have many thoughts on Xtoxm's death, but for now, I will say that from a setup perspective, if I was scum with one of the neighbors (which is now impossible because of the Zenith and Dongfish revelations), I would not have killed the Mage Leveler as I would lose access to my powerful abilities. I could have a stone-independent power, but the better play is to attempt to increase the scum power as much as possible.

I have once again forgotten who is in the neighborhood, so I will need to look up that information to further speculate on this game.

Eve, the answer to why Xtoxm’s flip clears me from a setup perspective is here. I have made it known that I have powerful abilities attached to the Mage Stone. Killing the Mage Leveler makes it much more difficult to get those powerful abilities. Hence, I wouldn’t have made this kill if I was going to kill a Leveler.

How did you know xtoxm is mage stone leveler?

[Sujimichi]

I think my pool is {Eve, Mastina, alimidia, Wake88}. I have many thoughts on Xtoxm's death, but for now, I will say that from a setup perspective, if I was scum with one of the neighbors (which is now impossible because of the Zenith and Dongfish revelations), I would not have killed the Mage Leveler as I would lose access to my powerful abilities. I could have a stone-independent power, but the better play is to attempt to increase the scum power as much as possible.

I have once again forgotten who is in the neighborhood, so I will need to look up that information to further speculate on this game.

Eve, the answer to why Xtoxm’s flip clears me from a setup perspective is here. I have made it known that I have powerful abilities attached to the Mage Stone. Killing the Mage Leveler makes it much more difficult to get those powerful abilities. Hence, I wouldn’t have made this kill if I was going to kill a Leveler.

How did you know xtoxm is mage stone leveler?

This is a very good point. It was not known that Xtoxm was a leveler of any kind, nor that there was any other leveler than the Thief Stone leveler. Also, the Neighborhood information is easily available, so I am not sure why that comment was made.

[alimdia]

Gobbletygook and dongfish are aligned.

So we should probably either focus on getting thief or warrior stone to level 5, or else I guess lynching one would confirm the other.

I don't feel well, so taking the day off.

Why didn't you ask if the neighbours are all aligned?
Yes voting the thief stone so it can be lvl 4. This way even I die you guys can vote thief again to get it to lvl 5.
However, just a note that if mod confirms DongFish as IC, it only means gobbledygook is town if zenith is also town.

[alimdia]

VOTE: Thief Stone

I think the Xtoxm flip clears me, from a setup perspective.

No it doesn't?

I can now only be scum with either Dongfish or Zenith. The moment a scum flips that is not any of us three, we all become conftown.

I think my pool is {Eve, Mastina, alimidia, Wake88}. I have many thoughts on Xtoxm's death, but for now, I will say that from a setup perspective, if I was scum with one of the neighbors (which is now impossible because of the Zenith and Dongfish revelations), I would not have killed the Mage Leveler as I would lose access to my powerful abilities. I could have a stone-independent power, but the better play is to attempt to increase the scum power as much as possible.

I have once again forgotten who is in the neighborhood, so I will need to look up that information to further speculate on this game.

Eve, the answer to why Xtoxm’s flip clears me from a setup perspective is here. I have made it known that I have powerful abilities attached to the Mage Stone. Killing the Mage Leveler makes it much more difficult to get those powerful abilities. Hence, I wouldn’t have made this kill if I was going to kill a Leveler.


Re: why I can only be scum with either Dongfish or Zenith

Zenith just revealed a parity cop result stating that Dongfish and I share an alignment. This immediately puts us into two universes.

Universe A: Dongfish and I are scum together (the last two remaining scum). This explains Zenith’s parity cop result on us.

Universe B: Zenith and I are scum together and Zenith lied about his parity cop result on me and Dongfish. This means that if Dongfish flips, I become “conftown” to the town and I won’t be nightkilled because I’m mafia so the town will never know the Zenith parity cop result is a lie. If I die and I’m scum, then Dongfish immediately gets killed because the parity cop directly implicates him.


Does that make sense why I said those things?

I think my pool is {Eve, Mastina, alimidia, Wake88}. I have many thoughts on Xtoxm's death, but for now, I will say that from a setup perspective, if I was scum with one of the neighbors (which is now impossible because of the Zenith and Dongfish revelations), I would not have killed the Mage Leveler as I would lose access to my powerful abilities. I could have a stone-independent power, but the better play is to attempt to increase the scum power as much as possible.

I have once again forgotten who is in the neighborhood, so I will need to look up that information to further speculate on this game.

Eve, the answer to why Xtoxm’s flip clears me from a setup perspective is here. I have made it known that I have powerful abilities attached to the Mage Stone. Killing the Mage Leveler makes it much more difficult to get those powerful abilities. Hence, I wouldn’t have made this kill if I was going to kill a Leveler.

How did you know xtoxm is mage stone leveler?

Yeah... Even the neighbours didn't even know xtoxm was a mage stone leveler, so... this doesn't clear you at all from a setup perspective. Also... mage stone is never getting to lvl 5 even with the leveler after we didnt touch it on Day 1 and 2.

[alimdia]

I targeted Dongfish.

Why?

I don't trust just obeying the commands of an unconfirmed player in my NH, when I know for a fact I'm Town and there's USUALLY (from modding experience) a high chance of Scum being in a Neighborhood, period.

And with the other NH member being killed, considering what he was discussing in there with us, I do not trust you to be Town in this game. Absolutely not.

That discussion was after the deadline was already over, which means actions couldn't be changed.

[Zenith]

Why didn't you ask if the neighbours are all aligned?

How? I've been open about how my oracle ability works and have asked for suggestions on how best to use it.

I can still ask if there is a blank in this game, but can't use the letter e.

Also, just curious, but will I be alerted if takes a shot at me and breaks my vest? Not sure how that works.

[Zenith]

VOTE: thief stone

[gobbledygook]

I think my pool is {Eve, Mastina, alimidia, Wake88}. I have many thoughts on Xtoxm's death, but for now, I will say that from a setup perspective, if I was scum with one of the neighbors (which is now impossible because of the Zenith and Dongfish revelations), I would not have killed the Mage Leveler as I would lose access to my powerful abilities. I could have a stone-independent power, but the better play is to attempt to increase the scum power as much as possible.

I have once again forgotten who is in the neighborhood, so I will need to look up that information to further speculate on this game.

Eve, the answer to why Xtoxm’s flip clears me from a setup perspective is here. I have made it known that I have powerful abilities attached to the Mage Stone. Killing the Mage Leveler makes it much more difficult to get those powerful abilities. Hence, I wouldn’t have made this kill if I was going to kill a Leveler.

How did you know xtoxm is mage stone leveler?

I didn’t. But since he flipped, if I was scum with one of the neighbors I would know they are all probably levelers of some kind.

[gobbledygook]

Why didn't you ask if the neighbours are all aligned?

How? I've been open about how my oracle ability works and have asked for suggestions on how best to use it.

I can still ask if there is a blank in this game, but can't use the letter e.

Also, just curious, but will I be alerted if takes a shot at me and breaks my vest? Not sure how that works.

Not normally. Ask the mod.

[gobbledygook]

Also I read pops comment as CCBE as the pony mod, not porny mod.

Pine’s NSFW comment makes sense now.

[Sujimichi]

I didn’t. But since he flipped, if I was scum with one of the neighbors I would know they are all probably levelers of some kind.

Correct me if I am wrong, alimdia and Wake88, but based on alimdia's early comment it doesn't seem like this was something that the Neighbors discussed or aware of and alimdia only inferred based on Xtoxm's role being made public today.

[Sujimichi]

I didn’t. But since he flipped, if I was scum with one of the neighbors I would know they are all probably levelers of some kind.

Correct me if I am wrong, alimdia and Wake88, but based on alimdia's early comment it doesn't seem like this was something that the Neighbors discussed or aware of and alimdia only inferred based on Xtoxm's role being made public today.

Apologies. This was answered prior to gobbledygook's most recent comment. I am now unsure why he made that comment even though clarification was provided.

[gobbledygook]

You cannot be serious that you are considering I am scum for that comment.

[gobbledygook]

Let us please work through the bizarro world where I am scum for that comment in light of the parity cop result.

[Sujimichi]

I did not say that I was considering that you are Mafia for that comment. I am trying to understand why you made the comment when it is false.

[gobbledygook]

How is it false? Wasn’t one of the Levelers in the neighborhood outed? It’s not a great logical jump to see who claimed what for flavor, see that there are levelers in the hood, and put two and two together.

Otherwise, this means that I am either scum with one of the neighbors still alive, or have an ability to find out if someone is a leveler. We know that I cannot be scum with one of the neighbors due to the parity cop result (unless there are 4 scum in this game which would be ridiculous). That leaves us with I somehow found out that the neighbors are all levelers. I have not been acting this entire game. I also do not have a rolecop ability. In addition, this would mean that one of Zenith or Dongfish has the ability to figure out the levelers. As they have both already claimed no such ability and at least Zenith has proven his ability, this is also not the case.

So that leaves back at square 1.

[gobbledygook]

Blatant Scum ;_;

Why did you claim the unjester with BP part??? You wouldn’t have gotten killed otherwise.

VOTE: Mage Stone

What did you do last night?

Why did you ask this?

[alimdia]

Why didn't you ask if the neighbours are all aligned?

How? I've been open about how my oracle ability works and have asked for suggestions on how best to use it.

I can still ask if there is a blank in this game, but can't use the letter e.

Also, just curious, but will I be alerted if takes a shot at me and breaks my vest? Not sure how that works.

Well...
Gobbledygook has a 'e' in the name..............................

[alimdia]

Blatant Scum ;_;

Why did you claim the unjester with BP part??? You wouldn’t have gotten killed otherwise.

VOTE: Mage Stone

What did you do last night?

Why did you ask this?

I had external info so I asked you to see your reaction and if its consistent.

[jjh927]

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