Newbie 1984 - Game Over

[Natsu]

But he never asked me to join it, or maybe I'm not understanding.

[DkKoba]

my pronouns are they/them please

[Detective Pikachu]

M/b the lawyer guy avi threw me off

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Natsu

I am drunk but I want natsu pushed bc they didnt join my townblocc earier

He thinks that not wanting to work together with a town block but not attacking the inclusion of members directly is scummy. Effectively he was asking for your initial take on his reads and you came off as defensive, if I understand his reasoning. Now in this case you didn't understand the concept, but since you didn't react the way he expected town to act, isn't he justified from his point of view in suspecting you?

ok u actually kinda quantified my gut read into something tangible. I sorta tend to forget over time why i gut read someone as scummy but this was a reminder to that.

[DkKoba]

honestly i feel lost as fuck and dont have much hard confidence in any read right now. theres stuff thats like scummy and shit and like yeah i can see some people as being scum but nothing hardline.

[DkKoba]

this is not an easy d1 game,I regret not being aggressive this game

[DkKoba]

like I want to be sure of my push before I commit. for the record if u put a gun to my head and forced me to choose id lynch natsu right now for their reaction to the push on them

[Natsu]

Why not Pikachu? He's had just as big of a push and has had far more interactions to dissect?

[IMASPY]

Everyone waiting for Dsjstr's replacement

Spoiler:

ps... POP POP

[Luca Blight]

Reading up to page 31, and I'm getting Town vibes from Spy and Pikachu. I'm trying my hardest to stay open-minded on the latter even though his antagonistic style rubs me up the wrong way.

[Luca Blight]

I don't like 72's Spy vote at the bottom of that page - it's at odds with the impression I got from Spy's recent posts, and the reasoning is pretty forced. Pikachu and Natsu have been the two most dubious slots in the game imo, so pushing both of them doesn't seem strange from my pov.

I also like how Spy is developing their reads based on further interactions, which 72 isn't taking into account.

[Luca Blight]

782 sums up some of the problems I had with Natsu's reads. I felt like their transition from wanting me dead to TR'ing me was pocketing, based on the fact I was voting/arguing with the player who was pushing his wagon.

[Luca Blight]

782

He emphasizes a townread on Luca, who hasn't actually joined the wagon on him and who was at the time still voting his counter-wagon

I am pretty sure I didn't TR Luca until much more recently, are you saying I am now TRing him after he jumped on your wagon?

@Spy I still don't see how you would assume you would be killed when there are far more obv-town people who have never been voted for a considerable length.

This post is giving me a bad vibe.
It sounds like you are saying you cant Remember what sort of read You had on luca. I would expect you to have at least some feel for where playersie on the town to scum scale. Only scum has to 'remember'.

It's a famous Mark Twain quote:

If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything

Its like you arent looking for tells, but are rather just artificially coming up with reads.

This seems like a disingenuous interpretation, though, and easy points scoring.

I always say things like 'I think' and' 'I'm pretty sure' when I actually know something for certain.

I feel like you're the one eyeing up the suspected slots right now.

VOTE: 72

[Luca Blight]

That's right hectic, it's time to bus natsu :3

Let's do it and take this for a spin.

VOTE: Natsu

Did you seriously just vote a TR to try and demonstrate you're not partners?

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: Hectic

I like this more, actually.

The fact his presence has diminished more and more since an eventful RVS phase, and the fact he's sat on his reads all day (Spy being scum, Natsu being Town) but now suddenly votes his TR at the drop of a hat for town credit.

[72offsuit]

782

He emphasizes a townread on Luca, who hasn't actually joined the wagon on him and who was at the time still voting his counter-wagon

I am pretty sure I didn't TR Luca until much more recently, are you saying I am now TRing him after he jumped on your wagon?

@Spy I still don't see how you would assume you would be killed when there are far more obv-town people who have never been voted for a considerable length.

This post is giving me a bad vibe.
It sounds like you are saying you cant Remember what sort of read You had on luca. I would expect you to have at least some feel for where playersie on the town to scum scale. Only scum has to 'remember'.

It's a famous Mark Twain quote:

If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything

Its like you arent looking for tells, but are rather just artificially coming up with reads.

This seems like a disingenuous interpretation, though, and easy points scoring.

I always say things like 'I think' and' 'I'm pretty sure' when I actually know something for certain.

I feel like you're the one eyeing up the suspected slots right now.

VOTE: 72

Hardly. I posted my scumreads of AC/Natsu/R1 and urself back on pg12, p275. 0 votes on natsu at that stage.
So you stating im eyeing suspected slots is total BS.

[72offsuit]

I don't like 72's Spy vote at the bottom of that page - it's at odds with the impression I got from Spy's recent posts, and the reasoning is pretty forced. Pikachu and Natsu have been the two most dubious slots in the game imo, so pushing both of them doesn't seem strange from my pov.

I also like how Spy is developing their reads based on further interactions, which 72 isn't taking into account.

Why do you not like my vote on IMASPY? I was already voting for him. He just wanted me to change it under his name, which i thought was fair enough, as he has clearly put time into this game. You stating you dont like my vote makes ZERO sense though. I was already voting for him.

[Luca Blight]

Hardly. I posted my scumreads of AC/Natsu/R1 and urself back on pg12, p275. 0 votes on natsu at that stage.
So you stating im eyeing suspected slots is total BS.

That doesn't really negate what I said, though.

The fact your Spy read hasn't changed is odd to me, and your 797 was a poor reason to shade Natsu, which makes it look like you're jumping on anything.

[Luca Blight]

I don't like 72's Spy vote at the bottom of that page - it's at odds with the impression I got from Spy's recent posts, and the reasoning is pretty forced. Pikachu and Natsu have been the two most dubious slots in the game imo, so pushing both of them doesn't seem strange from my pov.

I also like how Spy is developing their reads based on further interactions, which 72 isn't taking into account.

Why do you not like my vote on IMASPY? I was already voting for him. He just wanted me to change it under his name, which i thought was fair enough, as he has clearly put time into this game. You stating you dont like my vote makes ZERO sense though. I was already voting for him.

Fair enough, I missed that post from Spy that prompted the vote.

I still can't relate to your read, though.

[72offsuit]

I don't like the fact that between the last meaningful post of p660 and the current posts, the most you redig from rereading, is viewing my revoting of the slot im already actually voting as being scummy.

[Luca Blight]

I don't like the fact that between the last meaningful post of p660 and the current posts, the most you redig from rereading, is viewing my revoting of the slot im already actually voting as being scummy.

I've said a few times now it's the lack of development of your read I find scummy, not the vote itself.

I didn't realise you were already voting Spy, but that's actually irrelevant to my point.

[72offsuit]

I'm not shading, I've already stated several times that I'm happy with a Natsu lynch. How is that shading?

[72offsuit]

If you can't relate to my read, I can understand that.

But your comments Re: shading and eyeing off easy lynches is not legit

[Luca Blight]

I'm not shading, I've already stated several times that I'm happy with a Natsu lynch. How is that shading?

You can be happy with someone's lynch and still shade them; the two things aren't incongruent.

You're painting something as scummy which simply isn't. Maybe it's unintentional and you've never seen such expressions, but it came off as disingenuous.

[Luca Blight]

If you can't relate to my read, I can understand that.

But your comments Re: shading and eyeing off easy lynches is not legit

I don't think you're comment aimed at Spy was legit either.

Sometimes to make a point I show that someone is doing the same as what they accuse others of doing, like I did to Pikachu earlier regarding the misreps.