Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

teacher · Post Post #7700 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:46 pm

yoink~

teacher · Post Post #7701 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:52 pm

In post 7527, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7515, skitter30 wrote:
In post 7512, Xtoxm wrote:Skitter stop prancing around like you own the thread. You are still a suspect.
Nice shade
Not really I was the only one who pushed her. She’s not after being right on RCE

TBH, Im not sure how you get to BOTH me and skit being hard town after resisting RCE, plus maintaining (at least to a limited extent) your traitor theory?

Like, to you this is mylo, right? or did you give up on that?

If you gave up on that, why did your reference the neighborizer bit earler?

Regardless of the traitor bit, why do you assume both people pushing against a town wagon are necessarily town? Wouldnt one white-knight/divergence from a partner be more likely in the abstract?

(BTW, sorry for the lot of questions, and I appreciate you playing with the flu. Feel better!)

teacher · Post Post #7702 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:02 pm

In post 7528, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7526, Flopz wrote: Is this assuming you were the N1 target?
Yes and RCE had no reads other than RC scum

Thats just not true. Since we are talking about N1, here are RCE's other reads:

Spoiler:

Like the EoD1, RCE's posts in the 2000s are more about Ari scum than just about any other slot. And Im not sure how you could possibly say otherwise?

teacher · Post Post #7703 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:02 pm

In post 7524, Flopz wrote:fun digging through ISO's which I should hopefully do in the weekend.

Did this happen?

MathBlade · Post Post #7704 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:06 pm

First question
1) You have resisted too many pushes that wouldn’t have any scum equity. Where as Skitter wasn’t entirely wrong on reads which means that it required a reanalysis of her slot.
2) it’s a theory but it’s one I can’t explain at all. I have stated it a lot and more just sort of went I hope it’s wrong because if it’s right we’re fucked and we are aiming to lynch scum anyway and we’ve mass claimed so on a strategy level nothing changes.
3) Mainly because you’re the only ones arguing against the logic and calling it an outright fallacy despite townreads and scumreads telling you you’re wrong (shos flopz and xtomx). There’s nothing really to gain there and white knighting isn’t really likely because you two both already townread each other iirc. There’s no stance gain. Having the ability to be unilaterally townread in 40+ player games skitter wouldn’t do that and after a scum lynch if you’re scum you’d need to widen your net. White knight might make sense if you are in a general game but this one no.

It’s more a neighborizer that can be defused and on one power role doesn’t make sense. Against three PRs two of which stop scum kills one of which stops kill and neighborize doesn’t sit right.

Something is wrong here. There’s just not enough here to push.

MathBlade · Post Post #7705 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:09 pm

The setup as written penalizes scum for using the power assuming the other two are vanilla. Saudade could be guiltied by RC for multitasking if he uses tracker. Something doesn’t add up.

MathBlade · Post Post #7706 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:10 pm

In post 7702, teacher wrote:
In post 7528, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7526, Flopz wrote: Is this assuming you were the N1 target?
Yes and RCE had no reads other than RC scum
Thats just not true. Since we are talking about N1, here are RCE's other reads:

Spoiler:
In post 2737, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2730, skitter30 wrote:
I've finally realized that lynching ari ... willl not actually be super helpful wrt the other two, or with rc in particular
[snip]
Not the lynch itself maybe. Night phase would but I'll leave it at that.
Sus of Ari

In post 2632, RCEnigma wrote:Ari/tw/RC

Tw is only above RC in that list because TW is a significantly tougher read for me.
Most sus of Ari

In post 2389, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2385, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2376, skitter30 wrote:This is exhausting, what the hell

Ari i am thoroughly underwhelmed

Was there anything particularly addreased to me in the last like 6 pages, because i didnt really read them

I almost want to lynch in {tw/rc} now just to resolve this mess and move on
Sorry to disappoint, Skitty! I'm an underwhelming person tbh.

Also, like, not really worth reading, no.
The pages appeared because I appeared and I should just go back to being too busy for this since I'm gonna be scumread regardless I suppose
That's a cop out. Give us something to townread.
More Ari

In post 2386, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2380, MathBlade wrote:It’s Ari or nothing even though tw+RC can’t learn spam control.
Hey kinda like that thing I was just saying.
More.

Like the EoD1, RCE's posts in the 2000s are more about Ari scum than just about any other slot. And Im not sure how you could possibly say otherwise?

That’s not reads.

That’s sheeping me. You even quoted where you said he was.

MathBlade · Post Post #7707 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:10 pm

I am too exhausted sorry I am going to bed.

teacher · Post Post #7708 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:15 pm

Sweet dreams (fwiw, the quote is of him saying you were repeating him, not the other way around)

teacher · Post Post #7709 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:16 pm

In post 7705, MathBlade wrote:The setup as written penalizes scum for using the power assuming the other two are vanilla. Saudade could be guiltied by RC for multitasking if he uses tracker. Something doesn’t add up.

Why are you assuming the other two are vanilla? Im assuming a strongman N-shot.

MathBlade · Post Post #7710 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:17 pm

In post 7709, teacher wrote:
In post 7705, MathBlade wrote:The setup as written penalizes scum for using the power assuming the other two are vanilla. Saudade could be guiltied by RC for multitasking if he uses tracker. Something doesn’t add up.
Why are you assuming the other two are vanilla? Im assuming a strongman N-shot.

Can’t assume anything til it flips or evidence of it
Like resistance here evidence of traitor
Neighborizer evidence of traitor

teacher · Post Post #7711 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:26 pm

In post 7710, MathBlade wrote:Neighborizer evidence of traitor

No. Again, scum!neighborizer paired with traitor roughly 11% of time. This isnt gambler's fallacy (assuming the past has relevance to this actual setup). Its about the validity of the evidence. It is not evidence, because it has not been evidence.

teacher · Post Post #7712 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:36 pm

Spoiler: ALL VCs colored

VOTE COUNT

1.1
teacher (2):

the worst

, skitter30
skitter30 (1):

tris

Plum (1): MathBlade

Not voting (9):

RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.2
Plum (2): MathBlade, skitter30
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

teacher (1):

the worst

tris

(1): Aristophanes

Not voting (7):

RCEnigma/color],

iconeum

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.3

tris

(2): Aristophanes, MathBlade
Plum (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

MathBlade (1):

tris

teacher (1):

the worst

Not voting (7):

RCEnigma/color],

iconeum

,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher, Plum

VOTE COUNT

1.4
Aristophanes (4): Plum,

radiantCowbells

,

the worst

, MathBlade
Plum (2): skitter30,

iconeum

tris

(1): Aristophanes
MathBlade (1):

tris

Not voting (5):

RCEnigma/color],

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.5
Aristophanes (2): Plum, MathBlade
skitter30 (2):

Bellaphant

,

the worst

tris

(1): Aristophanes
MathBlade (1):

tris

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

iconeum

(1): skitter30

Not voting (5):

RCEnigma/color], Thilbert,

iconeum

, teacher,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

1.6
skitter30 (2):

Bellaphant

,

the worst

Aristophanes (2): Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm, skitter30
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

tris

(1): Aristophanes
Xtoxm (1):

RCEnigma/color]

Not voting (3): Thilbert,

iconeum

, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.7
MathBlade (3):

tris

,

Bellaphant

, Flopz
Aristophanes (3): Plum, MathBlade,

the worst

Bellaphant

(2): teacher, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

tris

(1): Aristophanes
Xtoxm (1):

RCEnigma/color]

Not voting (2):

iconeum

,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

1.8
Flopz (5): MathBlade, Plum,

the worst

,

RCEnigma/color],

iconeum

MathBlade (2):

tris

,

Bellaphant

Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

Bellaphant

(1): teacher

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

tris

(1): Aristophanes

Not voting (1): skitter30

VOTE COUNT

1.9
Flopz (3): MathBlade, Plum,

RCEnigma/color]
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

Bellaphant

(2): teacher,

the worst

tris

(2): Aristophanes,

radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (2): Flopz

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm
Xtoxm (1):

iconeum

Not voting (1): skitter30

VOTE COUNT

1.10

tris

(3): Aristophanes, skitter30, Plum
Flopz (2):

RCEnigma/color], [color=green]Bellaphant

Xtoxm (2):

iconeum

, teacher

Bellaphant

(2):

the worst

, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

MathBlade (1):

tris

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

VOTE COUNT

1.11

tris

(3): Aristophanes, skitter30, Plum
Xtoxm (3):

iconeum

, teacher, MathBlade
Flopz (2):

RCEnigma/color], [color=green]Bellaphant

Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

MathBlade (1):

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.12
Aristophanes (4): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, MathBlade
Xtoxm (2):

iconeum

, teacher

tris

(2): Aristophanes, Plum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Flopz (1):

RCEnigma/color]

Not voting (2): [color=green]Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.13
Aristophanes (4): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, MathBlade
Flopz (3):

RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes, [color=blue]iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Xtoxm (1): teacher

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.14
Aristophanes (5): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, MathBlade, teacher,

iconeum

Flopz (2):

RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes
[color=green]radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

tris

(1): Plum
teacher (1): skitter30

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.15
Aristophanes (4): Flopz, MathBlade, teacher,

RCEnigma/color]
[color=green]radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

teacher (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Flopz (1): Aristophanes

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

tris

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.16
Aristophanes (3): MathBlade, teacher,

RCEnigma/color]
[color=green]radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Flopz (1): Aristophanes

tris

(1): Plum

the worst

(1):

tris

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Flopz

VOTE COUNT

1.17
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, teacher, Flopz, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

(2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1):

RCEnigma/color]
Flopz (1): Aristophanes
[color=red]tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.18
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, teacher, Flopz, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(3): Xtoxm,

the worst

, Aristophanes

the worst

(2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1):

RCEnigma/color]
[color=red]tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.19

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(3): Xtoxm,

the worst

, Aristophanes
Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz
Plum (1):

RCEnigma/color]

Not voting (2): [color=green]Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.20

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz
Plum (1):

RCEnigma/color]

Not voting (3): [color=green]Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.21

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1):

RCEnigma/color]

Not voting (3): [color=green]Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.22

the worst

(6):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz
Aristophanes (3): teacher,

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1):

RCEnigma/color]

Not voting (1): Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.23 (FINAL)
[color=green]the worst

(7):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz, teacher
Aristophanes (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1):

RCEnigma/color]

Not voting (1): Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.1
Plum (3): [color=green]radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes
Aristophanes (2):

iconeum

, MathBlade

Not voting (7):

RCEnigma/color], [color=red]tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Flopz, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.2
Aristophanes (3):

iconeum

, MathBlade, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1): Aristophanes

Not voting (6):

RCEnigma/color], [color=red]tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.3
Aristophanes (4):

iconeum

, MathBlade, Flopz, teacher

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30,

RCEnigma/color]
[color=green]RCEnigma/color] (1): [color=green]radiantCowbells

Not voting (5):

tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.4
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, Flopz, teacher,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30,

RCEnigma/color]
[color=green]RCEnigma/color] (1): [color=green]radiantCowbells

Not voting (5):

saudade

, shos,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.5
Aristophanes (3): Flopz, teacher,

iconeum

shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

radiantCowbells

(1):

RCEnigma/color]
skitter30 (1): MathBlade

Not voting (4): shos, [color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

saudade

VOTE COUNT

2.6
skitter30 (4): MathBlade,

iconeum

,

saudade

, Xtoxm
shos (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (2): Flopz, teacher

radiantCowbells

(1):

RCEnigma/color]
MathBlade (1): Aristophanes

Not voting (2): shos, [color=green]Bellaphant

VOTE COUNT

2.7
shos (3): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Aristophanes

radiantCowbells

(3):

RCEnigma/color], [color=blue]iconeum

, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): Flopz, teacher
skitter30 (1): Xtoxm

Not voting (3): shos,

Bellaphant

,

saudade

VOTE COUNT

2.8
shos (5): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

,

RCEnigma/color], teacher
[color=green]radiantCowbells

(2): MathBlade,

saudade

Aristophanes (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

2.9
shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

,

RCEnigma/color]
Aristophanes (1): Flopz
[color=blue]iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (4):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.10
shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

,

RCEnigma/color]
MathBlade (1): [color=green]radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.11
shos (4): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

,

RCEnigma/color]
[color=blue]iconeum

(1): shos

saudade

(1):

radiantCowbells

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.12

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3):

saudade

,

RCEnigma/color], MathBlade
shos (1): Flopz
[color=blue]iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.13

saudade

(5):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(3):

saudade

,

RCEnigma/color], MathBlade
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (3): [color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.14

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2):

saudade

,

RCEnigma/color]
[color=green]RCEnigma/color] (2): Flopz, MathBlade
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (3): [color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.15

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes, Flopz
shos (2):

iconeum

, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(1):

RCEnigma/color]
Xtoxm (1): shos
Aristophanes (1): [color=red]saudade

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.16 (FINAL)

saudade

(7): skitter30, Aristophanes, Flopz,

iconeum

, teacher,

radiantCowbells

,

saudade

shos (1): MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(1):

RCEnigma/color]
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (2): [color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm
VOTE COUNT 3.1
Xtoxm (2): Iconeum, shos
shos (1): MathBlade

Not Voting (7):

RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes,[color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Flopz, teacher, skitter30

VOTE COUNT 3.2
Xtoxm (1): shos
MathBlade (1): skitter30

RCEnigma/color] (1): MathBlade

Not Voting (7): [color=green]RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes,[color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher, Iconeum, Flopz

OTE COUNT 3.3

RCEnigma/color] (3): MathBlade, Flopz, shos
MathBlade (2): skitter30, teacher

Not Voting (5): [color=green]RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes,[color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Iconeum

OTE COUNT 3.4

RCEnigma/color] (4): MathBlade, Flopz, shos, Iconeum
MathBlade (2): skitter30, teacher

Not Voting (4): [color=green]RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes,[color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm

OTE COUNT 3.5

RCEnigma/color] (3): MathBlade, Flopz, shos
MathBlade (1): skitter30

Not Voting (6): [color=green]RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes,[color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher, Iconeum

OTE COUNT 3.6

RCEnigma/color] (3): MathBlade, Flopz, shos
shos (2): teacher, skitter30

Not Voting (5): [color=green]RCEnigma/color], Aristophanes,[color=green]Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Iconeum

OTE COUNT 3.7

RCEnigma/color] (5): MathBlade, Flopz, shos, Iconeum, Xtoxm
MathBlade (2): teacher, skitter30

VOTE COUNT 3.8 (FINAL)
[color=green]RCEnigma/color] (6): MathBlade, Flopz, shos, Iconeum, Xtoxm, Aristophanes
MathBlade (2): teacher, skitter30

Not Voting (2): [color=green]RCEnigma/color],[color=green]Bellaphant

Doing this for public benefit while using some on the preview screen for my reading.

teacher · Post Post #7713 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:37 pm

Error in the find and replace....

Spoiler: fixed tags

teacher · Post Post #7714 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:19 pm

After diving VCs, I suppose Im ok with a Shos lynch. Id rather Ari, but it is what it is.

teacher · Post Post #7715 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:19 pm

@Skit, Ive spent the day diving my own solves, but I do want to do the Ari associative thing so will be on tomorrow with that.

shos · Post Post #7716 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:29 pm

In post 7633, Flopz wrote:
In post 7630, shos wrote: I was never town there, lol, I started the game as cult. Perhaps fooled people that I got culted so good that after endgame? XD
He said he was talking about this game. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81377

I was a cultist there too.. perhaps there's a misunderstanding?

Iconeum · Post Post #7717 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:36 pm

In post 7658, skitter30 wrote:also it's not just the rce lynch, it's the whole nonsensical team-spouting, traitor, setup-spec thing that you did
and that you were trying to push that you were conftown day2, which i still hate

hate yes, but do you actually scumread that? i don't
his pushing himself as conftown D2 speaks louder as town then scum?
his setup spec, while hilarious, didn't read as scummy to me

shos · Post Post #7718 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:36 pm

In post 7649, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7647, teacher wrote:Hey, so Im going to be reading through a bit and working on solving solo, but Im down to jam if people want.

@Skit, fwiw, I think Shos's no lynch thing makes sense for someone with a math background. To be clear, I dont think it makes sense in real life, but I can see it from their perspective. Like, pure odds wise, its changes us from:
6/2...nl....3/2 worst case (25% followed by 40% chance)
to
nl....5/2....3/2 (29% followed by 40%)

That said, given that Ico is (sadly) town, its NEVER going to happen nor make sense today.
Just...no. Those odds assume failure. Like rip.

Mr math here should know that odds to win are 1-odds of failure. Since calculating odds of fail is easier this is the way to go, if you wanna fight math-wise, we can do that

Also if ico is scum and endgames everyone you're all going to get a nice "SUCK MY ASS YAW" meme. I'll think which one it will be

Iconeum · Post Post #7719 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:37 pm

ngl, math repeatedly pushing for this day to end on a shos lynch while we have 10-ish days left is creeping me out

especially now that i'm getting town pings in shos latest posts

shos · Post Post #7720 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:38 pm

Don't think anyone actually said why they think it is a bad idea, everyone just say no we're not doing that without remotely explaining.

The only bad thing about this plan is "we lose icos voice for a day" and this is solvable by my method of deciding tomorrow's lynch.

Iconeum · Post Post #7721 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:38 pm

to do list:

-quote shos town pings
-towncase flopz to skitter

Iconeum · Post Post #7722 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:39 pm

In post 7720, shos wrote:Don't think anyone actually said why they think it is a bad idea, everyone just say no we're not doing that without remotely explaining.

The only bad thing about this plan is "we lose icos voice for a day" and this is solvable by my method of deciding tomorrow's lynch.

i've asked you repeatedly to start working on 'who will tomorrow's lynch be'

plz do that

teacher · Post Post #7723 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:39 pm

Shos, can you please share your solve?
Can you please say why you arent voting?
Can you please explain the "fast NL" "discussion than NL" dichotomy?
etc. etc.

shos · Post Post #7724 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:40 pm

In post 7655, skitter30 wrote:
In post 7653, MathBlade wrote:It comes from the idea that the person jailed is almost always scum.
this is fallacious and ignores the notion that jk's tend to act as docs if more than one scum is alive

It is not. Regardless if how awesome the jailer is, statistically this is MUCH more likely to come from a roleblock jail than from a doc jail.