Team Mafia 2020 Normal Game: Scum PT

[Xtoxm]

Also that a lot of the useful stuff is buried and people cant face sorting thru or just cant find what they're looking for

[skitter30]

i feel like i'm playing dumb on math and that somebody is going to figure out that's what i'm doing eventually ...

[skitter30]

i'm not good at faking being tunneled

i think i need to go 'fuck me i'm tunneled -> vote:shos' or something

[implosion]

@implo

What happens if we no lynch tom and then no-kill tom night and then continue the pattern without anyone dying/getting lynched?
I.e. does this go to a happily ever after after a certain number of phases or could we be locked in a no-lynch/no-kill cycle perperually until someone caves?

If this happens, and neither side is willing to break the cycle indefinitely, then rocks fall and everyone dies. I don't know exactly what I'd do formally but probably if it goes on for some specific number of phases then everyone in the game will lose, and everyone in the game (and their teams) will have the game count as a loss.

[Xtoxm]

i'm not good at faking being tunneled

i think i need to go 'fuck me i'm tunneled -> vote:shos' or something

People seem to be tr you for it
I think really we just need to wait on the non voters to do something at this point, I'd rather not have us both be on whatever lynch happens if poss

[Xtoxm]

i hope this day doesnt fizzle to an apathy no lynch and we have to repeat this day tomorrow

[skitter30]

There's like a week on the clock, we'll be fine
I'll switch to shos even to avoid that
Ico needs to change his mind a bunch more timea i think

Ari can probably be prodded into voting shos, and flopz is making his way there too

[skitter30]

i don't know how to fake progression in a stalled gamestate

[skitter30]

@implo

What happens if we no lynch tom and then no-kill tom night and then continue the pattern without anyone dying/getting lynched?
I.e. does this go to a happily ever after after a certain number of phases or could we be locked in a no-lynch/no-kill cycle perperually until someone caves?

If this happens, and neither side is willing to break the cycle indefinitely, then rocks fall and everyone dies. I don't know exactly what I'd do formally but probably if it goes on for some specific number of phases then everyone in the game will lose, and everyone in the game (and their teams) will have the game count as a loss.

ok will the 'everyone loses scenario' kick in after: no-lynch, no-kill, no-lynch again?
or after a longer cycle?

(i'm just making sure that if we choose to no-kill after a no-lynch we don't lose before we have teh oppurtunity to make a kill again).

[Xtoxm]

i don't know how to fake progression in a stalled gamestate

What did you do last time you were town and a game stalled?

[Xtoxm]

I'm probably gonna be wagoned now that you pushed them to vote me, you know

[implosion]

@implo

What happens if we no lynch tom and then no-kill tom night and then continue the pattern without anyone dying/getting lynched?
I.e. does this go to a happily ever after after a certain number of phases or could we be locked in a no-lynch/no-kill cycle perperually until someone caves?

If this happens, and neither side is willing to break the cycle indefinitely, then rocks fall and everyone dies. I don't know exactly what I'd do formally but probably if it goes on for some specific number of phases then everyone in the game will lose, and everyone in the game (and their teams) will have the game count as a loss.

ok will the 'everyone loses scenario' kick in after: no-lynch, no-kill, no-lynch again?
or after a longer cycle?

(i'm just making sure that if we choose to no-kill after a no-lynch we don't lose before we have teh oppurtunity to make a kill again).

Not certain what the cycle would be, but the rocks fall everyone dies scenario wouldn't trigger before both sides have a chance to break it after being explicitly informed about it, should it come to that.

[skitter30]

I'm probably gonna be wagoned now that you pushed them to vote me, you know

I dont think so

You told me not to go on shos and it's making me feel kinda constrained/idk what to do because i'm kinda confused why i'm resisting this so strongly ... if i had voted him and supported it he probably would have been dead by now.

I think it's going to divert to ari instead, which i dont particularly want

At least i goaded him onto shos ....

Like if i dont like the obv wagon if i'm town i need to be trying to find the alternative, but this is the wagon i actually want as scum tho so it's making me feel stuck because i dont know what else i'm supposed to be making happen

[skitter30]

Like i dont actually want ari lynched today but that's what i'm starting go make happen by resisting shos

[skitter30]

Not certain what the cycle would be, but the rocks fall everyone dies scenario wouldn't trigger before both sides have a chance to break it after being explicitly informed about it, should it come to that.

Thanks, just checking

[Xtoxm]

everything i suggest is advisory
im not trying to control your play
was just considering optics would be better for you in a hypothetical final 4 to be off of an extra town flip wagon
we've got ari on the wagon now which is the main thing, assuming hes the intended final mislynch, so its less of an issue regardless

since we both dont want ari, theyd need to get ALL of the other town on him, and wagonomics would probably win us anyway at that point

[skitter30]

I need to pick a side tho, being indecisive and not ending up on a wagon at all might be worse than being on yhe mislynch

[Xtoxm]

if you feel that voting shos is what you should be doing, then by all means do so
your reading of gamestates is better than mine

[skitter30]

I'm not sure.
I think the window of opportunity for that may have diminished
I want flopz to pick a side too

[skitter30]

I think i naturally only get on shos as a deadline lynch now
I think my trajectory is for me to vote ari, which would prompt math and maybe flopz to join, it might go to hammer

We might be doing ari first here given the gamestate
I'm not sure how viable shos is if ico changed his mind

Also its really sad to nk people u have pocketed

[skitter30]

Math/shos/flopz is worse for us than with ari there instead of shos, but i think it's fine too - math's being fed by titus that its shos and flopz

It's more of a problem in that shosh might vote u in lylo

[skitter30]

Also the person who's head i need to get into is usually on while i'm asleep so i cant have a real-time convo to convince him to vote shos or something

[Xtoxm]

Math/shos/flopz is worse for us than with ari there instead of shos, but i think it's fine too - math's being fed by titus that its shos and flopz

It's more of a problem in that shosh might vote u in lylo

yeah titus seems pretty sold on her vca solve and math is already kinda sheeping her so if he mislynches ari probably goes with what she says?
eh

[Xtoxm]

i mean if shos votes me in lylo and hes been on every mislynch and ive only been on 1, theres a good chance i just win that out still

[skitter30]

If we lynch ari today and no-lynch tom, i think i agree that we no-kill tom night tho - that version of lylo is infinitely better with teacher in it, it gives us a lot more room and the forced 1v1 of u and shos doesnt happen in 6way

I'm ok with ari then

And then ... why was shos so hard fo freaking lynch, will be pushed in mylo