Mini Normal 2118: Boon Gets Pretentious - [Day 4]

[Hectic]

Determined kamek.

+1

Woah, this one might be becoming a serious contender.

[Hectic]

Because he wouldn't say this as scum. We played a game together, and he's acting the same way (he was town that game).

Best way to play as scum is to play how you would as town

Do you know the player TSE ? (TrueSoulEnergy) I am feeling something similar with your playstyle (scum indicative).

I like this post, not sure this PoV comes from mafia either. Feeling as though scum would just deliberately choose to push someone for their in-game content rather than just choose to compare them to another player's style, I have yet to see wolves take this approach, surprisingly. it's like trying to justify a gut feeling, all the while not being able to properly put the finger on the "why", so they choose to do it by comparing it to another player, whereas scum wouldn't even bother to make such points, hope that makes some sense.

@Hectic, what do you think about this point?

It's interesting. + point for clidd since I can see the logic where scum are less likely to have a nuanced thought process where they start comparing scummy behaviour to players they've played with before which have scummy playstyles.

Still don't like clidd overall though, like him putting me in the Unsure category for "PoE" alone is also something I'm not used to. His reasons for sorting seem a lot less substantial than his town-game.

[Hectic]

As long as we vote Emperor, Dsjstr or Hectic today, we're good.

VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips

If you truly TR me then trust my read on Flips.

I think dsjstr is Town as well. Hectic is a decent option, although I need to review.

Ok, i will.

UNVOTE: Emperor FlippyNips

clidd, why'd you unvote on Luca's request here? Can't town be wrong about their reads? Luca was scumreading you before this, and from your perspective, you should know he's wrong about that, so why trust him on Flippo being town?

[insomnia]

My point on the clidd read was that scum wouldn't have taken that approach and even less so state the read if they couldn't associate it with something in the thread. If they couldn't explain a read, they would've abstained completely from stating it, or they wouldn't have looked for a reason such as that one to give it. That reason leaves little room for wiggle and kind of ties him to that read whereas just saying "i feel bad about your posts / you post scummy" leaves himself wiggle room.

whatever it's a good read i just don't know how to explain it i'm dumb

[insomnia]

if scum are faking a gut read, they'll have a shallow reason or just say "this is probably a town post" or something like that without much explaining.

but taking that approach kind of says that it's a true gut read that's hardly explainable and isn't fake i guess

[Hectic]

You're saying scum wouldn't fake a read which they couldn't explain, right? But clidd stated a read... and explained it. I'm not sure what you mean. Also, clidd's default is having reasons like that for reads, and that is one of his good ones. But the townlocking thing and confidence there is what concerns me. I don't think it's natural to go from "unsure" to "townlock" on Wimpo on a replace out.

Also, clidd, Wimpo's replace out happened in other games too. Does it still make him a townlock?

[Ame]

Insomia said if anyone called his reads baseless he’d essentially lose his shit. I did that and nothing. So I voted him to try and like the bear some more. And still nothing.

This is scum trying to keep their cool. Insomnia doesn’t strike me as a guy who keeps his cool.

Oh, nice! That makes a lot of sense.

I guess I missed this post, Ame, but why didn't you mention disliking his weird push on Aaron in your reads list, since it came before?

It was just something in my mind that didn't hold much weight. I thought Wimpys point was more interesting.

[insomnia]

ame you're in cruise control rn

share more thoughts

[Ame]

I like and agree with Insomnia's point on Clidd. I also empathize with Clidds seemingly irrational townlocking/PoE as I often play in a similar fashion.

Flippy doesn't feel like he's actually contributing anything. But the "remember when you mled me" reads as real town frustration. I've never seen scum actually use FUD in that fashion.

[Ame]

@Somni, I know it's normal here, but 2 week day phases is not something I've ever played before. It's absurdly long to me and I'm trying to place myself or I'll get way too antsy.

[Ame]

pace*

Also there's just not a whole lot to go off of!

[insomnia]

nah that read as really fake, because, once again, it wasn't even flippy that i was scum reading, he just replaced in the slot that i was heavily scum reading

so that's a really unfair statement to make and he knows it, I didn't even need to sort him, I was already tunneled on his slot and it wouldn't have mattered who repped in it.

and plus, I actually feel like that's more of a scum stance from experience alone

just cuz I read you wrong in one game (which, again, isn't even the case) it doesn't matter that i'll be 100% wrong on reading you in each game from now on

[insomnia]

This gameplay of yours isn't reminiscing of others where you were town, it feels like you aren't really that invested and you seem to be really invested and active and have a lot of direction and pull

you just lack all of that here and it makes me doubt on my read which i really don't want to because i really feel like flippy is just scum here and i don't want to tunnel you because you aren't town telling anymore in your posts

[insomnia]

I liked your explanation of wimpy and whatnot but this lazy posting is making me paranoid af.

[Ame]

I don't think it matters how legitimate it is, it's more about his interpretation/feelings. From his perspective, you mled him and he feels you're doing the same here. I've reacted with similar frustration before and I've had others react to me the same. Every time it's come from town. It's just such a lulzy thing to do as scum.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Flippy doesn't feel like he's actually contributing anything.

Also there's just not a whole lot to go off of!

i've shared my thoughts every chance i get. idk what you want from me

[Emperor flippyNips]

everytime i think of doing a read list it doesnt make sense to do one cos im like null on everyone, even my sr have done townie things

[Ame]

This gameplay of yours isn't reminiscing of others where you were town, it feels like you aren't really that invested and you seem to be really invested and active and have a lot of direction and pull

you just lack all of that here and it makes me doubt on my read which i really don't want to because i really feel like flippy is just scum here and i don't want to tunnel you because you aren't town telling anymore in your posts

I understand and it makes me feel even better about you that you feel this way, because I

am

playing differently. I'll try to kick it up a notch.

[Hectic]

What does FUD stand for, Ame?

[Hectic]

Did you ever explain what caused the shift from Luca-town to scum in your read lists, my Ami, Miami?

[Ame]

Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. Basically appealing to ones previous faults.

[insomnia]

yo hectic wanna vote flippy?

[insomnia]

do it and i'll probably proxy town read you tbh

[Ame]

Flippy doesn't feel like he's actually contributing anything.

Also there's just not a whole lot to go off of!

i've shared my thoughts every chance i get. idk what you want from me

I don't think you've provided anything unique. It's like you've been in the constant wake of others. Like there's no initiative

[Emperor flippyNips]

yo hectic wanna vote flippy?

do it and i'll probably proxy town read you tbh

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