Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[Iconeum]

it's most definitely not a crumb

xtoxm would have said so by now

i meant to say most definitely not scum v scum crumbing

to me that reads like scum neighbourizer pushing town to vote RC, with a wink to the neighbourhood

zero reasons for scum among each other to do that

UNLESS you are willing to accept that scum *actually* used it on themselves instead of town

I don't

[Iconeum]

shos, it's time for you to vote ari

or yourself but yeah

[Flopz]

Apologies, should've said yesterday but irl things happened. I'm V/LA from yesterday till tomorrow. If I've been asked any questions I'll respond sometime on Friday.

[shos]

UNLESS you are willing to accept that scum *actually* used it on themselves instead of town

1. This gives scum effective daytalk
2. They can later add a townie and sway him together secretly AND both make that townie townread them

What benefit do scum have for just neighbourizing a townie?

[Xtoxm]

hope everything is ok flopz

1. This gives scum effective daytalk

hm, the rules actually dont specify

implo, do scum have daytalk?

[Xtoxm]

shos what did you mean about avoiding responsibility i think im not understanding there or something

[Xtoxm]

i didnt crumb anything, btw. it wasnt in my sphere of thought at the time at all.

[skitter30]

Who is, then?

I'm really really tempted to go Ari.

I think i am willing to explore this
VOTE: ari

Ari pushed saud pretty hard tho

not saying it's impossible that was a bus

and shos has soooo much stuff that can get him lynched, including his Association to the saud lynch

ehhhh

Ari didnt push saudade that hard, actually
He resisted it p hard and iirc wrote up a whole post explaining why he thought saudade was town
He eventually got on cuz i kept prodding him over it

[skitter30]

@Bella

Spoiler: A Compendium of Saudade Townposts

I hardclaim mason

Okay so this as a first actual post is interesting. My initial read on it was that he was an actual mason and I thought I actually found his partner at one point, I don't think so now but I stillthink scum don't jump in like this usually.

how many scum are there in a setup like this? 3?

are you one of them

I actually liked this setup and response despite it being a kinda throwaway question. Like I'm sure he knew there were 3 scum and I'm sure he also knew someone would respond to his question. It's a nice little reaction test waiting to happen and he used it to glean a read which is good follow-through. Town equity.

Saudade, is there really no game relevant commentary in you team thread?

can i have link to my team thread

are you on my team teacher

ok saudade is prob town

im always prob town
until i smak u

Iunno I just don't think this response is scummy but maybe he's a more brave scum than I think.

Ari are you going to scumhunt because so far everyones been posting walls and stuff and you were just amusing yourself looking througn my posts

I liked how he called me out on this. Could have very easily memed at me or continued on but instead said I should do something despite his prattling on. I think it was a very good call out and I like him for it.

You’d only be dealing with mass claim possibly if today is a mislynch. If we lynch scum mass claim doesn’t come into this. The fact you’re saying we would deal with mass claim logic tomorrow is troubling.

a) i'm generally a proponent of earlier massclaim than later massclaim tbh
b) i was obviously referring to the worst-case scenario wherein we lynch town today, in which massclaim has to happen tomorrow

i said i wanted to revisit the rc thing, not that i was going to shout for massclaim tomorrow indiscriminately

Nah you had none of that qualifiers and early mass claim is stupid if deepwolves can exist.

I am pretty sure you’re scum.

i dont follow the logic why u scumread her now
chew it for me im very stupid

Asking for the breakdown in this fashion is very good and I really like it tbh. It makes Math take a step back and explain from the basics where he stands and that is hugely helpful. Honestly very fond of this post.

Look at Sau tryign to gently push the wagon onto Ari, look at Math's associatives with him this interaction fucking reeked

you will die today for this
DIE

WTF bro.

He's making a case and making a read. He looked at your posting and read the intention behind them, correctly or not, in this fashion.

If you are going to go berserker on anyone who misreads your intentions this really isn't a good passtime for you.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

well rc does have a history of being absolutely terrible
VOTE: unvote

The "Hmmm" post had me like ??? until he unvoted. He took a step back to reconsider things and diffused his attack rather than escalating it. It is very pro-solve rather than pro-scum.

The way you interacted with RC and did not let it derail the game thread is very good town

Once again, I liek the way he approached his reads here.

I dont have any scumreads... Im collecting townreads

I also am uu=sing this strategy so I am fond of those using it.

I think its more of a character trait of his to be really kind rather than him trying to buddy everyone

Good read of me is good and I'm a sucker for those who get me so...

So why do you town read skitter

You tried to dance around me there but I insist on hearing you out

I mean, goodposting.

You are over-reacting.
there's nothing wrong with pushing players whoever they may be to learn something

Totes true and while maybe not AI I think it once again is more likely from someone who wants to sort the game.

That was harder to find than i thought

[skitter30]

i just reread all vote counts for this day

lynching shos (or pushing him) is a LOT harder then I thought it actually was. I had a feeling it was too easy, but it's definitely not.
It got to 3 votes at it's peak (L-1), with me on it (xtoxm + math).

If this is a town lynch it would have gotten further, faster? no?

I'm p sure it got too l-2 since it's 5 to lynch today
A lot of people expressed willingness but it never got to l-1 as far aa i can tell

[skitter30]

Ico i think shos's progression is fine

[Aristophanes]

i'll put it differently

i'm considering this day from now on as an effective Glatiator situation between shos and Ari

votes should only be placed on these 2

Ya I kinda figured we were 1v1ing today. Any other options/votes were just avoiding the inevitable

[skitter30]

Like there's a lot of other reasons he can be sr here but his progression on math is not really one of them imo

[skitter30]

Shos + teacher is not a scenario. It's not in what you quoted. It's not in my mind. You literally quoted where I say teacher town, and you twist this into an asso with you? Why?

You actually just said shos/teacher on the previous page

[skitter30]

Ari if ur town what am i missing here?

[skitter30]

Any private topics will be open at all times.

Scum neighborizing each other if they have daytalk is silly imo

[skitter30]

Flopz i hope everything is ok

[Xtoxm]

oh, i cant read lmao

[Xtoxm]

skitter what is your read on me?

[skitter30]

Defaulting to town but i dont like it

Whats ur read on me

[Aristophanes]

Ari if ur town what am i missing here?

My hammer was bad but otherwise this is literally my towngame and I started with stronger townreads which I defended and PoE'd scum from it, looking there specifically to confirm the scumreads rather than arguing towncases on townies.

I've said almost everything I can because this game, despite the length and plethora of new posts, just circles back to the same base arguments over and over.

I have my PoE pool, it's unlikely to change unless a townflip on shos occurs and I highly doubt that.

Soneone asked where the counterwagon on shos was today, and the answer is that it was being built and pushed, but not voted. It was me all along.

Uh, Iunno what else to say on that.

And shos, NL is a good plan but not at this moment. It is for when mylo hits or is nigh. Not when we are up in town numbers! Give your head a shake!

[Xtoxm]

Defaulting to town but i dont like it

Whats ur read on me

town.
you feel 'normal' in the way you did in eg CB/SC1, but you havent gone obvtown mode like youre capable of, if that makes sense
ive been kinda paranoid to tr you in games, since ive still never seen your scum game, but i have the sense that its gonna be strong

[MathBlade]

Spent my break finding the thread. How this is in Blitz Game Trial I dunno. Will catch up later.

[teacher]

Ego search is your friend.

[shos]

And shos, NL is a good plan but not at this moment. It is for when mylo hits or is nigh. Not when we are up in town numbers! Give your head a shake!

LOL
how can you be any more 'nigh' than now you're one mislynch away from mylo