Mini Normal 2118: Boon Gets Pretentious - [Day 4]


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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:09 pm

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In post 552, Luca Blight wrote:This feels just like in the last game where I suspected you, and you tried to deflect from it by suspecting me in return.
so this is the reasoning of "reacts poorly to pressure"? That's the only thing I'm seeing in your iso that explains even the slightest about this aspect, yet you've mentioned it endlessly.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:12 pm

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In post 744, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 735, Luca Blight wrote:Your scum play in the lil Uzi large Normal was massively different from your first game as well, and that was a few weeks after.

And as I’ve said repeatedly, there is nothing you’ve done in this game that couldn’t have been easily faked. Your SR on me feels entirely like retaliation which I’ve only seen from Scum!Frost.
Yeah and I almost got lynched Day 1 in that game too until Flavor Leaf, my partner, came in and saved my ass. And again with the "This could be fake" argument instead of evaluating whether or not it's actually fake.
It’s irrelevant that you were almost lynched D1 that game, the fact is that your play was entirely different from your previous scum game a few weeks previous, which shows you’re capable of changing up your style.

Again, your last line is gibberish. Your play was clearly clearly different, there was no ‘could be’ about it.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:16 pm

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In post 750, insomnia wrote:
In post 552, Luca Blight wrote:This feels just like in the last game where I suspected you, and you tried to deflect from it by suspecting me in return.
so this is the reasoning of "reacts poorly to pressure"? That's the only thing I'm seeing in your iso that explains even the slightest about this aspect, yet you've mentioned it endlessly.
No, you are the one who endlessly said Frost isn’t scum because his play is different.

My counter to that is that he reacted to pressure in the same way as that game, which nullifies your point. I’ve never been SRing Frost based on meta.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:16 pm

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ok, wanna develop on that?
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:17 pm

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cuz i quite frankly don't know what you're seeing
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:19 pm

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Try reading the thread.
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:23 pm

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In post 577, Luca Blight wrote:Here's a similar post from Frost's last scum game:
In post 327, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 325, Luca Blight wrote:And why hadn’t you mentioned the ‘lack of Town vibes’ until now? Again, it seems convenient timing.
The timing of your vote is pretty convenient too.

You were scumleaning me, then townleaning me, then scumleaning me again. Explain that progession.
I suspect him and he immediately turns it round to me. He even uses similar wording like '
explain that progression'.
this?
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:25 pm

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That is me explaining why Frost isn’t Town based on meta, but my initial argument against him was the passive questions/fence-sitting which felt like he was playing cautiously after being Tr early on. I’m not sure why you can’t find that.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:26 pm

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I feel like you’re completely disengaged with this game and barely even following what’s happening.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:34 pm

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People need to start putting serious votes down, deadline is approaching.

I’m only willing to lynch Insomnia or Frost today.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:39 pm

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I lied about today, I’ll do stuff tomorrow <3
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:46 pm

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In post 738, Ame wrote:@Luca, when you get the chance, I'm curious about your thoughts on this.
I think he has been doing the things you’ve mentioned there, perhaps apart from the overconfident reads, although his read on Insomnia could count as such.

I can deal with this post further if need be once I’m back from V/LA and on a computer.

I’m not sure where I said Frost has made little progress in his scum game? I said the opposite - he has made tremendous progress if you compare the lil Uzi game with his first scum game, for example.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:47 pm

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Ctrl + f'd "pressure". This is what it comes up with.
In post 643, Luca Blight wrote:to my pressure was literally the same as the previous game.
In post 649, Luca Blight wrote:His reaction to my pressure was the same as the previous scum game which you’re conveniently ignoring.
In post 666, Luca Blight wrote:and you WOULD have taken his reaction to my pressure into account if you were Town.
In post 684, Luca Blight wrote:Maybe Frost handled earlier pressure well, but if he later handles pressure just like his scum game then surely any Townie would take a moment to consider if they were wrong, especially when their read is so based on meta, as Insomnia's Frost read is.
In post 748, Luca Blight wrote:My point is that, while your general play has been different (which is Nai) your reaction to pressure was the same as your scum game, which is alignment indicative. This nullifies any argument that you must be Town for playing differently.
In post 752, Luca Blight wrote:My counter to that is that he reacted to pressure in the same way as that game, which nullifies your point.
none of this explains how "reacting to my pressure like his scum game" is valid / why he reacts like his previous scum game.

That's all I'm asking and you keep making it not about this when it's clearly about this. i'm asking you to present WHY you think he's handling your slot the same as last scum game, because I am not seeing that, so you should explain yourself

what's so hard to comprehend?
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:50 pm

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it feels like you're swinging at random right now.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:52 pm

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I literally explained why in post you quoted in 756?

I’m not sure why that’s needs explaining further - it’s pretty obviously similar.
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:53 pm

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My whole point is that he's literally not the same as his scum game and you say he is. I want you to explain WHY you feel like he's more likely scum than his previous game, which you never had, but kept on pushing ghost theories about how Aaron is obvious scum because of how he reacted to your pressure, even though you have NO MENTIONING of why you think he reacted poorly, you just claimed he did and left us to figure it out, which is a scum tactic.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:54 pm

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In post 757, Luca Blight wrote:That is me explaining why Frost isn’t Town based on meta, but my initial argument against him was the passive questions/fence-sitting which felt like he was playing cautiously after being Tr early on. I’m not sure why you can’t find that.
no, this doesn't expect the pressure thing, which is what i'm searching for.

this is before you applied any pressure to him. i want to know WHY you thought he was scum that reacted poorly to your questioning and that's all i asked.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:54 pm

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In post 763, insomnia wrote:it feels like you're swinging at random right now.
Probably because you’re so disengaged you have no idea what’s going on.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:54 pm

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explain* not expect.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:58 pm

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In post 761, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 738, Ame wrote:@Luca, when you get the chance, I'm curious about your thoughts on this.
I think he has been doing the things you’ve mentioned there, perhaps apart from the overconfident reads, although his read on Insomnia could count as such.

I can deal with this post further if need be once I’m back from V/LA and on a computer.

I’m not sure where I said Frost has made little progress in his scum game? I said the opposite - he has made tremendous progress if you compare the lil Uzi game with his first scum game, for example.
Hm. I really thought you'd find this convincing. There's some moments in your play that I want to TR, but this read is so bizarre, I don't think I can let it go.

Looking through Aaron's ISO, I'm not seeing how his questions are passive. They show a clear train of thought. You're making it out like his read on you is reactionary, but he's been trying to sort you from the beginning.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:00 pm

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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:00 pm

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You really have no idea what’s going on or what my argument is.

I never said he was the same as his scum game, my point was that nothing he’s done this game that is hard to fake as scum - it’s not a huge leap to suggest playing differently doesn’t necessarily = different alignment, especially when his play this game hasn’t been particularly townie at all from my pov.

Regarding pressure, I don’t know what else to say - you even quoted my post but still can’t see it, so it’s hopeless trying to explain it to you.

You seem like obvious scum with how you’re playing right now.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:04 pm

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K I think you're blatantly lying about Aaron's meta

there's a huge difference in between this game and the other one. you suggesting that his gameplay could change so drastically in one game is ludicrous.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:04 pm

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Where you see ‘sorting’, I see posturing and fence-sitting.

He was clearly holding back from any clear read on me until I pushed him.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:05 pm

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In post 772, insomnia wrote:K I think you're blatantly lying about Aaron's meta

there's a huge difference in between this game and the other one. you suggesting that his gameplay could change so drastically in one game is ludicrous.
What have I said that’s a ‘lie’?
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