Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Espeonage]

Maki and Kaito have been lynched.

They were a

Mafia Jack-of-All-Trades (Rolecop, Alien, Neighboriser)

.

Night One begins now. This phase will end in (expired on 2020-02-14 23:00:00).

Uhhhhh, it does matter. Bc to me it looks like AF is the least likely to be scum of the three.

[OkaPoka]

took way to long to post that

[OkaPoka]

Maki and Kaito have been lynched.

They were a

Mafia Jack-of-All-Trades (Rolecop, Alien, Neighboriser)

.

Night One begins now. This phase will end in (expired on 2020-02-14 23:00:00).

Uhhhhh, it does matter. Bc to me it looks like AF is the least likely to be scum of the three.

Dude

The whole Flavor Leaf - Hectic - AaronFrost masonry claimed happened day 1 before spiffeh flip ok nobody believes them its a meme

[OkaPoka]

RR we need night actions from you though

[Espeonage]

Maki and Kaito have been lynched.

They were a

Mafia Jack-of-All-Trades (Rolecop, Alien, Neighboriser)

.

Night One begins now. This phase will end in (expired on 2020-02-14 23:00:00).

Uhhhhh, it does matter. Bc to me it looks like AF is the least likely to be scum of the three.

Dude

The whole Flavor Leaf - Hectic - AaronFrost masonry claimed happened day 1 before spiffeh flip ok nobody believes them its a meme

?????????

My point is that we have three people, at least 1 scum in them. My argument is that a UB makes a lot of sense and that would mean that AF is the least likely to be scum bc Ali can get info from any of the three.

[Espeonage]

This is why I want to talk about UB.

[AaronFrost]

- Chemist hooded me
- RR hooded Chemist
- Ali somehow knew this

Possibilities
1) Follower/tracker combo who targetted Chemist last night, this might be possible in a game where scum has a lot of power.
2) RR is scum neighborizer who hooded Chemist
3) Chemist is scum neighborizer who hooded me
4) I'm scum who was hooded by Chemist (false but if you want to argue this feel free)
5) RR and Chemist are both scum (or me/Chemist or me/RR (also false because I'm town but again, feel free to argue this))
6) Some other option that I'm not thinking of right now

I want to say this spews Chemist as scum, I think the play of establishing communication between two people he knows to be town makes a lot of sense for scum. He could be scum with RR but I townread RR based on their play. I want to see how they respond to this though as it'll determine whether I'm right or wrong on my read.

PEDIT: Scum either has a second neighborizer or a UB but that's not really important at the moment.

[insomnia]

I’m not really the type of dude to enjoy mech talks and this is just a huge smoke screen. If you get yourself out of the fog, you start asking yourself why Alisae would ever do this if Chemist and Aaron were both town.

Chemist posted as soon as Alisae revealead that and instantly voted RR.

Scenarios in which Alisae claims this in order to further their wincon :

1) Chemist / Aaron / RR are all town

2) One of Chemist / Aaron is scum and RR is the town that’s getting set up

Either way, there’s gotta be one in Chemist and Aaron and it doesn’t change my reads at all.

This looks planned as fuck, Chemist was here the entire time, he just posts as soon as he gets outed? Give me a break.

This was planned to frame RR.

Besides, read my 3952, Aaron literally slipped. This is a smoke screen.

I have learnt that sticking to my reads is a lot better and I have more faith in them. The only way subjective reads get tempered is with a huge mechanical smoke bomb.

[OkaPoka]

oh your saying that scum inherited the joat?

[Espeonage]

look my money is on RR for mech reasons but that hypocritical of me so whatever, I'm more interested in lynching chemist.

I feel like that is also backed by voting patterns as well.

[Espeonage]

I’m not really the type of dude to enjoy mech talks and this is just a huge smoke screen. If you get yourself out of the fog, you start asking yourself why Alisae would ever do this if Chemist and Aaron were both town.

Chemist posted as soon as Alisae revealead that and instantly voted RR.

Scenarios in which Alisae claims this in order to further their wincon :

1) Chemist / Aaron / RR are all town

2) One of Chemist / Aaron is scum and RR is the town that’s getting set up

Either way, there’s gotta be one in Chemist and Aaron and it doesn’t change my reads at all.

This looks planned as fuck, Chemist was here the entire time, he just posts as soon as he gets outed? Give me a break.

This was planned to frame RR.

Besides, read my 3952, Aaron literally slipped. This is a smoke screen.

I have learnt that sticking to my reads is a lot better and I have more faith in them. The only way subjective reads get tempered is with a huge mechanical smoke bomb.

I feel like Occams says Ali fucked up, no?

[OkaPoka]

if you really want to ignore alisae's influence on the game we were en route to lynching aaronfrost before alisae so we might as well stay en route

[Espeonage]

oh your saying that scum inherited the joat?

That makes most sense to me.

[insomnia]

Like I'm not buying the fact that he just suddenly decided to start playing seriously especially after we had a scum flip yesterday.

I’ll humor the enigma solving for you but at the end, you have to turn back to this

[Espeonage]

Vote: Chemist

[AaronFrost]

Like I'm not buying the fact that he just suddenly decided to start playing seriously especially after we had a scum flip yesterday.

Yes because this is a scumslip. Oops I slipped real hard guys.

[Reasonably Rational]

Hmm. I sort of want everyone who has a private line of communication through which Alisae could have learned something to share, but mason outing is not worth.

-Cerb

Pedit: Elaborate on why that's relevant?

Pedit again: ohhh I see, people shared the hood we made with chemist last night, got it.

Hooded chemist last night, Drixx thought he saw mason signs and wanted to talk to Titus privately. I will not share anything chemist has said anything regarding being a mason, as I assume Titus will kill that lynch if that turns out to be the case.

-Cerb

[OkaPoka]

oh your saying that scum inherited the joat?

That makes most sense to me.

meh

speccing about alisae's choices of scum roles doesnt help at all maybe e just decided to give a bunch of neighborizers to the scum team maybe e decided to make a bunch of joats we don't know and it doesn't really matter right now, or probably ever until we see the flips with our own eyes

[Chemist1422]

- Chemist hooded me
- RR hooded Chemist
- Ali somehow knew this

Possibilities
1) Follower/tracker combo who targetted Chemist last night, this might be possible in a game where scum has a lot of power.
2) RR is scum neighborizer who hooded Chemist
3) Chemist is scum neighborizer who hooded me
4) I'm scum who was hooded by Chemist (false but if you want to argue this feel free)
5) RR and Chemist are both scum (or me/Chemist or me/RR (also false because I'm town but again, feel free to argue this))
6) Some other option that I'm not thinking of right now

I want to say this spews Chemist as scum, I think the play of establishing communication between two people he knows to be town makes a lot of sense for scum. He could be scum with RR but I townread RR based on their play. I want to see how they respond to this though as it'll determine whether I'm right or wrong on my read.

PEDIT: Scum either has a second neighborizer or a UB but that's not really important at the moment.

I’m not really the type of dude to enjoy mech talks and this is just a huge smoke screen. If you get yourself out of the fog, you start asking yourself why Alisae would ever do this if Chemist and Aaron were both town.

Chemist posted as soon as Alisae revealead that and instantly voted RR.

Scenarios in which Alisae claims this in order to further their wincon :

1) Chemist / Aaron / RR are all town

2) One of Chemist / Aaron is scum and RR is the town that’s getting set up

Either way, there’s gotta be one in Chemist and Aaron and it doesn’t change my reads at all.

This looks planned as fuck, Chemist was here the entire time, he just posts as soon as he gets outed? Give me a break.

This was planned to frame RR.

Besides, read my 3952, Aaron literally slipped. This is a smoke screen.

I have learnt that sticking to my reads is a lot better and I have more faith in them. The only way subjective reads get tempered is with a huge mechanical smoke bomb.

you both have incorrect logic somewhere zzz

I can't plan establishing connection between two people I know are town if I don't know I'm getting hooded

Also planning it to frame RR doesn't work because anyone can tell me/Aaron are way more likely lynches out of me/RR/Aaron

[Espeonage]

I'll ride that Ali has so far been predictable in eir choices so far.

[gobbledygook]

Besides, read my 3952, Aaron literally slipped. This is a smoke screen.

Could you explain this to me?

[OkaPoka]

GUYS REMOVE ALISAE FROM THE EQUATION

WE WERE GOING TO BE LYNCHING AARON FROST

SO IF YOU WANT TO SPECULATE ON HOW THIS HELPS ALISAE, THE ONLY GAIN IS MAYBE WE MOVE OFF OF AARON FROST

BUT ALSO IF WE IGNORE ALISAE, WE WERE STILL GOING TO LYNCH AARONFROST

[gobbledygook]

The fact that not a single person hooded me last night is super annoying.

I do work with neighbors people! WORK

[OkaPoka]

Hmm. I sort of want everyone who has a private line of communication through which Alisae could have learned something to share, but mason outing is not worth.

-Cerb

Pedit: Elaborate on why that's relevant?

Pedit again: ohhh I see, people shared the hood we made with chemist last night, got it.

Hooded chemist last night, Drixx thought he saw mason signs and wanted to talk to Titus privately. I will not share anything chemist has said anything regarding being a mason, as I assume Titus will kill that lynch if that turns out to be the case.

-Cerb

why is masonhunting with neighborization such a prio

[insomnia]

If we’re right on you and Aaron then there’s no reason not to stir the pot

If we’re wrong then there’s no reason to stir the pot unless RR is town too which is the only scenario it’s profitable.

There’s one more scenario where 2 out of 3 are town in you / aaron / RR and this is setting up the lynch for the second one, which makes no sense because there’s a high chance there would’ve been a mislynch regardless, cuz we would’ve still voted chemist / aaron out of whoever is the one that’s alive after we flip the town. I guess Alisae would want to set up a lynch on someone but with one scum left there were high chances we would’ve mislynched regardless.

Bottom line is that there’s scum in Chemist / Aaron