Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[insomnia]

argh curse blake belladona for fucking an easy scum win

[insomnia]

@Titus:

Thoughts on RR? I had some scum vibes cause of that ascetic early claim on them but now I see there's a bunch of ascetic claims so I'm kind of unsure now.

pedit:

I'm listening.

yo krazy let me know how you read this post

[Sherlock and Watson]

Like this is pretty different from port arthur but the things Watson is saying are outside insomnia's scum range I thought were ballpark similar to there, also his weird confidence upon replacing in with a full solve but then seeming to not read certain slots and then exclusively focusing on people who he'd played with a lot on other sites just all seems scummy

Frozen Angel's scum replace out was basically identical to Excalibur imo

I don't like the slot and his tone toward me throughout the day has been slimy

But I'm not going to give enough fucks about this game to push it through with Titus being a pain in the ass and Bitmap is a much safer mislynch

-S

[Bitmap]

I need a hug and someone to notice my posts.

@Titus:

Thoughts on RR? I had some scum vibes cause of that ascetic early claim on them but now I see there's a bunch of ascetic claims so I'm kind of unsure now.

pedit:

I'm listening.

Yo bitmap, how does someone else claiming after RR diminish your gut feeling that you had on RR. Like, walk me through why someone else claiming their role makes the first claim not scum anymore.

I didn't think we'd have this many ascetics in the game and it's generally a scummy role. But it seems like roles have little impact in alignment in this game.

I know it's a bit different but I had a game where Salamance claimed rolecop in his first post as scum so I kind of thought of that a bit.

[Sherlock and Watson]

I thought you caught somni at the end though?

re: RR - I still liked the one early post where Cerb complained about not being mason but other than that the slot is in the poe

-S

[Sherlock and Watson]

I do think given that the tone of every single slot out of TSE/Chemist/Insomnia flipped 180 after his replace in suggests something is going on there but so much of it is loaded with off-site meta I can't be fucked to sort it

-S

[Ankamius]

Like this is pretty different from port arthur but the things Watson is saying are outside insomnia's scum range I thought were ballpark similar to there, also his weird confidence upon replacing in with a full solve but then seeming to not read certain slots and then exclusively focusing on people who he'd played with a lot on other sites just all seems scummy

Frozen Angel's scum replace out was basically identical to Excalibur imo

I don't like the slot and his tone toward me throughout the day has been slimy

But I'm not going to give enough fucks about this game to push it through with Titus being a pain in the ass and Bitmap is a much safer mislynch

-S

he had this same confidence with a full solve in a recently completed game where he replaced in

tonally he's very similar to that game

[insomnia]

nah, i meant as in, what do you think of bitmap's back track there? town / scum?

[Ankamius]

I thought you caught somni at the end though?

re: RR - I still liked the one early post where Cerb complained about not being mason but other than that the slot is in the poe

-S

I only caught it after irrelephant caught that his claim was impossible, I never would have looked at it otherwise

[insomnia]

I thought you caught somni at the end though?

i clashed claims with a low poster that i didn't read

i was mechanically locked oof

[Sherlock and Watson]

And out of the three insomnia is still the slot I have the biggest problems with; TSE being loud and wrong fits my general expectations of him, chemist is being weird and I'm having doubts about my reasons to townread that but I still thought the one exchange with Ali was very townie

-S

[Sherlock and Watson]

he had this same confidence with a full solve in a recently completed game where he replaced in

tonally he's very similar to that game

link me

-S

[insomnia]

My scum range is fucking huge

but my tone sucks

and my engagement level sucks

i've done shit to fuck with urap2 that i am not proud of but if i am motivated i will try my hardest you know

that man literally soul reads me, he knows my mentality, he knows why i play

he's a literal god at reading me

i miss urap

[Ankamius]

he had this same confidence with a full solve in a recently completed game where he replaced in

tonally he's very similar to that game

link me

-S

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=81655

[insomnia]

I didn't think we'd have this many ascetics in the game and it's generally a scummy role. But it seems like roles have little impact in alignment in this game.

Ok, but why did you think an ascetic would've claimed first if it's a general belief that it's an anti-scum role?

[insomnia]

i mean anti-town role / scum role

[Bitmap]

I didn't think we'd have this many ascetics in the game and it's generally a scummy role. But it seems like roles have little impact in alignment in this game.

Ok, but why did you think an ascetic would've claimed first if it's a general belief that it's an anti-scum role?

I know it's a bit different but I had a game where Salamance claimed rolecop in his first post as scum so I kind of thought of that a bit.

Basically it's to salvage as much town cred as possible with a generally scummy role.

[Sherlock and Watson]

OK but like, objectively speaking why does he have 200 posts this game

Like Watson is arguing that this is outside his scumrange but I'm like, why is he trying this hard replacing into a game with a day 1 scum flip

He feels really off meta, even including that game you linked

-S

[Ankamius]

Look at his neighborhood

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: aaronfrost

[Ankamius]

And keep in mind, they had just gotten a scumflip in a setup where that heavily swings the game in towns favor

[Sherlock and Watson]

I think RR / Oka / Aaron / Chemist / Pine

Were scum off my read through.

Oka was scummiest.

Aaron and Chemist standing out, followed by RR.

Pine I just didn’t like his wall about Alisae’s personality, there were some stuff that I think were stretched in order to justify why he wouldn’t be picked by em, as opposed to him just solving. If he would’ve died early as a town role that fucks with scum, why does he even need to address that instead of going “I am just gonna die so leave me alone” like espe?

Oka was very obvtown at EoD1 so I really didn't like that read although it's hard to tell what all this is based on
Pine I think ends up flipping town even though his slot is stinky now
Chemist I think is town off the Ali exchange but I know the argument there is weak and I probably am not able to refute the TSE argument
RR might flip town based on the qq to Titus about not being mason and having to try in a game they probably didn't really plan to go deep into
Aaron I think is town off early game tone (and I think he would have faked a townread early game as scum by meta), even if his Dunn argument sucked really badly

So my impression of insomnia repping in was that this had a decent chance of being 0/5 which might be what I might expect from a tryhard scum trying to salvage a lost game, which is the feeling I've had from him all day

-S

[Ankamius]

What even are your reads atm krazy

[Sherlock and Watson]

VOTE: Hectic

I don’t think scum would claim VT out of all possible roles.

ah my town read on you is a goner bitty

why not consider hectic was derping at all. after an achieved scum lynch, it would've been dumb to make such a play, wouldn't it?

surprised krazy actually voted that as well.

I really disliked this post for two reasons:
1) why did he ever townread Bitmap?
2) why did he not SAY he townread Bitmap before this post? I feel like scum forgets they did not say they townread someone more than town does

also this is like almost immediately after I fosed him and it felt like distancing at the time

-S

[insomnia]

I thought i was BoPable by day 4