Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5325 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:30 pm

@TSE is this the ali exchange you're talking about? I'm trying to make sense of what you're talking about https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11597722

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OkaPoka · Post Post #5326 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:30 pm

wdym resistance

aaronfrost wagon got torpedo'd really by titus vetoing

bitmap wagon got torpedo'd by joat claim

thats two wagons that probably would have ended the day right there and i didnt see anyone coming out of the woodwork to save them

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5327 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:31 pm

In post 5324, Espeonage wrote:Resistance on everything at the moment means I think someone being followed by people might be scum.

resistance on everything is because me, titus, and ank can't agree on who the day's lynch is yet

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Espeonage · Post Post #5328 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:31 pm

In post 5323, Sherlock and Watson wrote:Well here's my AF trajectory:
-Early game he thought the thread was bloated which seemed townie because it was
-Later he strongly defended Dunn when Dunn was being heavy pushed which is ~surprising for scum

Currently my re-evaluation concerns are:
-He has very few coherent reads
-The reads he does have he flips on kinda randomly sometimes

I did like his tone early game but his solving is kinda absent

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That feels pretty consistent with a lot of people in the thread though. Like I've voted I think 5 or 6 different slots today. My gripe with AF right now is that hoods should sort themselves out considering we have a chain. There's almost no way they are all town. Scum in there either run the gauntlet of not being hard read or kill the town in there. If it's all scum that will becomes evident eventually.

So I'd b happy to leave AF by the way side rn.

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5329 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:32 pm

btw for no particular reason I'm suddenly inclined to boost gobbles to mason status

this has nothing to do with anything in any other game it's just a random thought I had for no reason whatsoever

also oka your ellitells are backward

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Espeonage · Post Post #5330 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:32 pm

In post 5327, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 5324, Espeonage wrote:Resistance on everything at the moment means I think someone being followed by people might be scum.
resistance on everything is because me, titus, and ank can't agree on who the day's lynch is yet

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??????? Titus is the only person with any conceivable sway over the thread at the moment. What a weird ass list of slots.

OkaPoka · Post Post #5331 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:33 pm

im not even elitelling anymore yo

Espeonage · Post Post #5332 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:34 pm

Gobbles is currently my top pick for scum based on gut level hibbegibbes. I'm going to be trying to reconcile that one way or the other soonish.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #5333 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:34 pm

Correction at the lynch deciding comment:

This day phase starts to wrap down when I get back into this game, bet.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #5334 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:35 pm

In post 5325, Sherlock and Watson wrote:@TSE is this the ali exchange you're talking about? I'm trying to make sense of what you're talking about https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11597722

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WDYM?
What context.
The link you gave me doesn’t have the context with the Chemist and Alisae Interaction.
Chemist and Alisae had an interaction.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #5335 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:36 pm

The slip for me is where Alisae refuses to quote the quote I gave them.

Espeonage · Post Post #5336 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:36 pm

In post 5327, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 5324, Espeonage wrote:Resistance on everything at the moment means I think someone being followed by people might be scum.
resistance on everything is because me, titus, and ank can't agree on who the day's lynch is yet

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Today could have had multiple quick lynches which all got close but no cigar.

So generally that happens when either vocal scum in on wagon and not charismatic enough, or the wagon is on scum and scum aren't looking to bus. In the first case we have one or more deep wolves at the moment.

I legit think Titus' veto list is more likely to hold multiple scum than off it. But I am happy to set it aside for a bit.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #5337 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:36 pm

And restates it.

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5338 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:36 pm

Subject: Micro 918: Doggos Among Us [TOWN WIN]!

AaronFrost wrote:
In post 175, dsjstr wrote:I agree with norwegian's 172, but I am worried about how convincing clidd is. When he shared his thoughts on the setup I saw that as NAI, any role could do that. The fact that I was already sussing Drew and then people started joining makes me

hesitant to join the wagon. If we did want to lynch Drew than I would want clidd to be the one to hammer. Right now I would have placed my vote on clidd if he wasn't already at L-2. I think part of my uneasy feeling is that you did vote for Drew rather

than me. What was the reasoning for that vote?
I think this might be indicative of a dsj/clidd partnership. The first bit looks like he's trying to distance by speaking about his hesitance towards the Drew lynch but then goes on to follow clidd's wagon on Drew despite the weak reasoning.

Not sure what this says about Drew's alignment unfortunately.

Hectic is now my strongest townread. I also realized that I have yet to play with scum!Hectic so I'm not entirely sure what his scumplay would look like

Espeonage, would you say there are a fair number of posts in aaron's iso that look ~more or less like this in terms of solving?

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Espeonage · Post Post #5339 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:37 pm

In post 5333, Flavor Leaf wrote:Correction at the lynch deciding comment:

This day phase starts to wrap down when I get back into this game, bet.

Yes because having more votes in the thread generally leads to more lynches. You are a fucking clairvoyant prodigy.

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5340 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:37 pm

In post 5334, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:What context.
The link you gave me doesn’t have the context with the Chemist and Alisae Interaction.
Chemist and Alisae had an interaction.

could you please link it then as I've asked 2-3 times now?

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TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #5341 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 4484, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4482, Alisae wrote:
In post 4475, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:The way I see it.
She would probably go like.
“
I wonder if I made my entire mafia team all Neighborizors. Would Town never lynch at least 1 of them
?”
You seem very interested on this subject. Would you like a hint?
I want you to repeat that exactly quote I said, here I’ll bold it for you.
I want to see it WITH MY OWN EYES!

Espeonage · Post Post #5342 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:39 pm

In post 5338, Sherlock and Watson wrote:Subject: Micro 918: Doggos Among Us [TOWN WIN]!

AaronFrost wrote:
In post 175, dsjstr wrote:I agree with norwegian's 172, but I am worried about how convincing clidd is. When he shared his thoughts on the setup I saw that as NAI, any role could do that. The fact that I was already sussing Drew and then people started joining makes me

hesitant to join the wagon. If we did want to lynch Drew than I would want clidd to be the one to hammer. Right now I would have placed my vote on clidd if he wasn't already at L-2. I think part of my uneasy feeling is that you did vote for Drew rather

than me. What was the reasoning for that vote?
I think this might be indicative of a dsj/clidd partnership. The first bit looks like he's trying to distance by speaking about his hesitance towards the Drew lynch but then goes on to follow clidd's wagon on Drew despite the weak reasoning.

Not sure what this says about Drew's alignment unfortunately.

Hectic is now my strongest townread. I also realized that I have yet to play with scum!Hectic so I'm not entirely sure what his scumplay would look like
Espeonage, would you say there are a fair number of posts in aaron's iso that look ~more or less like this in terms of solving?

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1. I'm not going to iso dive.
2. Your argument is flawed bc someone not doing what they usually do as town does not equate to scum, it equates to null. Which we went over yesterday. Same shit different day. You being correct in the end yesterday means nothing either. There were other things wrong with the slot in the end.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #5343 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:40 pm

In post 4484, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4482, Alisae wrote:
In post 4475, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:The way I see it.
She would probably go like.
“
I wonder if I made my entire mafia team all Neighborizors. Would Town never lynch at least 1 of them
?”
You seem very interested on this subject. Would you like a hint?
I want you to repeat that exactly quote I said, here I’ll bold it for you.
I want to see it WITH MY OWN EYES!

In post 4486, Alisae wrote:
In post 4484, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4482, Alisae wrote:
In post 4475, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:The way I see it.
She would probably go like.
“
I wonder if I made my entire mafia team all Neighborizors. Would Town never lynch at least 1 of them
?”
You seem very interested on this subject. Would you like a hint?
I want you to repeat that exactly quote I said, here I’ll bold it for you.
I want to see it WITH MY OWN EYES!
Answer my question.

In post 4490, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4486, Alisae wrote:
In post 4484, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4482, Alisae wrote:
In post 4475, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:The way I see it.
She would probably go like.
“
I wonder if I made my entire mafia team all Neighborizors. Would Town never lynch at least 1 of them
?”
You seem very interested on this subject. Would you like a hint?
I want you to repeat that exactly quote I said, here I’ll bold it for you.
I want to see it WITH MY OWN EYES!
Answer my question.
STOP FLAILING A SAY IT MAMA!
SAY THE DAMN BOLDED MAMA!

In post 4491, Alisae wrote:
In post 4490, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4486, Alisae wrote:
In post 4484, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4482, Alisae wrote:
In post 4475, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:The way I see it.
She would probably go like.
“
I wonder if I made my entire mafia team all Neighborizors. Would Town never lynch at least 1 of them
?”
You seem very interested on this subject. Would you like a hint?
I want you to repeat that exactly quote I said, here I’ll bold it for you.
I want to see it WITH MY OWN EYES!
Answer my question.
STOP FLAILING A SAY IT MAMA!
SAY THE DAMN BOLDED MAMA!
Do you want a hint yes or no?
If you don't answer I'm going back to working on the ceremony.

In post 4496, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4491, Alisae wrote:
In post 4490, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4486, Alisae wrote:
In post 4484, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 4482, Alisae wrote:
In post 4475, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:The way I see it.
She would probably go like.
“
I wonder if I made my entire mafia team all Neighborizors. Would Town never lynch at least 1 of them
?”
You seem very interested on this subject. Would you like a hint?
I want you to repeat that exactly quote I said, here I’ll bold it for you.
I want to see it WITH MY OWN EYES!
Answer my question.
STOP FLAILING A SAY IT MAMA!
SAY THE DAMN BOLDED MAMA!
Do you want a hint yes or no?
If you don't answer I'm going back to working on the ceremony.
I don’t want your hints.
Your trying to throw me off because I’ve caught on to your little charade.
So say the quote or your just proving me right.
And that’s the only hint I need.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #5344 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:41 pm

In post 4503, Alisae wrote:
In post 4496, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I don’t want your hints.
Fine then, I'll just go back to work.

SEE

They completely ignore the rest I said.

PURPOSELY

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5345 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:43 pm

In post 5342, Espeonage wrote:1. I'm not going to iso dive.
2. Your argument is flawed bc someone not doing what they usually do as town does not equate to scum, it equates to null. Which we went over yesterday. Same shit different day. You being correct in the end yesterday means nothing either. There were other things wrong with the slot in the end.

Dude I'm not saying I'm right

I was actually looking for a rebuttal, that wasn't even a proper argument

I was looking for the closest town game to this I could find for Aaron and Doggos looks kinda close, not a lot of early strong reads, a lot of mech talk, kinda meh iso overall

but even there I see stuff like that that strikes me as having a bit more conviction than I've seen from him here except irt Dunn's slot, and even then he voted Dunn not super long after his meta defense so...

idk, I guess I'm concerned with his slot

who would you propose as a better lynch for today? sacrifice pine to the negative utility gods?

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Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5346 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:44 pm

In post 3943, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 3808, Hectic wrote:i mean we are masons don't get me wrong
but they don't know that Aaron
you might need to do something
Leaf claimed it and then you and I both confirmed so I'm not sure why people are still doubting the claim. And if they doubt that I'm actually a mason, then they have to doubt you and Leaf are too.

Like yeah I had been playing under-the-radar scummy on purpose to hide this as long as possible. Most of the solving has taken place in the mason PT.

I feel pretty strongly about insomnia/TSE scum right now tho so that's where I'd like to lynch today.

In post 3955, AaronFrost wrote:I don't remember you mentioning chemist's meta but I skimmed a lot so maybe I missed it.

Either way I strongly disagree and think he's town.

like in rebuttal, you might say these are town indicative for Aaron?

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Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5347 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:46 pm

TSE I'm gonna say that Ali fucking with you is NAI for chemist sorry

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Alisae · Post Post #5348 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:47 pm

In post 5347, Sherlock and Watson wrote:TSE I'm gonna say that Ali fucking with you is NAI for chemist sorry

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Good take!

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #5349 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:48 pm

Like when I ask for a towncase... I actually want a towncase, if I'm wrong on someone I want it explained why I'm wrong

Asking for a towncase is not like me throwing down the gauntlet saying I'm gonna shut down any rebuttal to Aaron scum, I had the guy as a mason I'm just trying to figure out what the fuck we do today LOL

Also if Aaron is actually town here I might want to go back to insomnia but I don't want to do that unless I actually feel pretty good about Aaron town

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